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BILLY CARSON: Welcome back to Disclosure with Dr. Steven
Greer.
In this final episode, we discuss
what is in store for humanity looking forward.
Dr. Greer, welcome to Disclosure.
DR. STEVEN GREER: Thank you.
Great seeing you.
BILLY: Dr. Greer, you mentioned a time
where consciousness and science actually
merged together as one.
Can you tell us about that?
DR. GREER: Yeah, we're actually
in the early stages of this integration
where the paradigm of reductionism,
traditional science, dividing things into parts,
understanding how things work are
beginning to be integrated with the science of consciousness.
There's a lot of work that's been pioneered
by Dr. John at Princeton and the Princeton Engineering Anomalies
Research Lab, the Peer Lab, and others.
And I think that the big problem has
been there are massive leaps forward that have occurred over
the last 70 years, and classified
projects, and particularly, since the late 1950s
that unfortunately the public are not being told about
and our society is not benefiting from.
But the basic understanding of it is there,
and this is the understanding that the field of consciousness
and the non-local what physicists
call it entangled cosmos is very much
accessible through consciousness and thought.
And of course, many people like Dr. Russell Targ, who I know
has come out from the shadows talking about the CIA projects
in remote viewing and their accuracy.
I knew Ingo Swann years ago, who is a renowned remote viewer,
and what you find is that that whole area of routinely using
consciousness to obtain information, that's
all coming out more and more.
Although, mainstream science still
wants to relegate it to the fringes.
The good news is that you have various universities that
have consciousness study programs now looking into this,
and it's becoming more and more funded and looked at.
But again, they're doing things from starting at scratch.
If we can get some of this information and technology
out classified projects use for constructive purposes,
we take a big huge quantum leap forward,
and as we go forward as a civilization,
this will become a routine part of our education.
I mean, children will be taught meditation at an early age,
what consciousness is, not what you're aware of.
Everybody confuses like a '60s awareness building.
No, I'm talking about what actual awareness
and consciousness is.
That's very different because I think we're not really
teaching our children from K through 12 or even universities
anything about that, and in reality, it
needs to be taught very early on so that they can understand
the cosmos they're living in.
And that would then inform all the scientific research,
medical research there are a lot of practical applications
to this, and that's something we're not
prioritizing because it hasn't gone
into acceptance large scale.
It will at some point.
But that's the reality of these civilizations already visiting
and the classified projects that have studied
this for 70 plus years is that those technologies
and consciousness studies have been very well developed.
BILLY: I read before that you mentioned
that Earth is under some type of a cosmic quarantine.
And so this quarantine, can you explain the quarantine,
and why are we under quarantine in the first place?
DR. GREER: I mentioned it and coined
that concept back in the 90s.
And really what it is, is, you know,
if you want a passport to other star systems,
you have to become a level one civilization, level one, level
two, which we went through in the last episode
because if you're still a warfaring civilization,
you're going to be allowed to have
a certain amount of alacrity and freedom and movement
in your own solar system.
But our solar system is Earth and a couple
of few other planets, you're not going
to be going out interstellar bamming around
because my CE-5 contact teams have had contact experiences
with civilizations that have never had the concept of war
because they didn't evolve from primates.
We're 98% identical our genetic material to a chimpanzee,
and those do organize into troops
and engage in battle and troops and tribes.
And humans have this, I think, as sort of our legacy
that we have to transcend as we become so technologically
advanced that proclivity towards division, otherness, racism,
us-versus-them mentality becomes an extinction consciousness.
And so, we can't, you know, this life here is precious,
this Earth is precious, and humanity is precious.
But to get to the next phase, we have to have universal peace.
And so once a civilization reaches that point where
they have a permanent peace, they
have renounced resolving to military violence
for resolving differences, then the universe opens its arms to.
Until such time, it's truncated, it's limited.
And I know people in the military
I've spoken to and at the Defense Intelligence Agency,
where we had certain satellites pointed
out targeting ET assets, and they just simply
would shut them down.
And it was an interesting series of conversations.
The problem is the people running those projects feel
that they should be omnipotent.
They have this God complex of Masters of the Universe,
and they don't like having their wings clipped,
and that causes them to even be more aggressive.
So there's an escalating tit for tat sort of things
that have happened that need to be resolved.
And it isn't going to be resolved
with the level of consciousness that created it.
As Einstein said, it has to be resolved from people who
have cooler heads, wiser heads.
God forbid that this whole exoracism comes
into it, you know, where--
Oh, well, this civilization's good
and this whole species is bad, then
we're going to align with this one and fight that one.
Great for a Star Wars movie, horrible policy
going forward because there's no way that survivable.
So these civilizations are waiting for us to grow up.
I liken this to the phases of maturation of a human.
You have your infancy, childhood.
Humanity right now is in its rambunctious adolescent phase,
and the hallmark of maturity of our species as a body
is universal peace, not just world peace,
but peace out there as well.
So that's really the big undertaking that has to happen,
and then we get cleared.
Everything is possible at that point.
BILLY: If we're trying to move out past our solar system,
would they just maybe use their advanced technology
to shut us down, turn off our power supply on our spacecraft?
What do you think they would do to hold us back?
DR. GREER: It's been made very clear
that there's a red line here.
You're not going to allow a group of frankly sociopaths
who have this kind of amazing power and technology
to go out and victimize completely innocent planets,
just isn't going to happen.
And you know it's quite clear that's not in the cards.
We're going to get there.
I'm optimistic, but we're not there yet.
BILLY: What do you think it will
take to free ourselves from this quarantine
that we're under right now?
DR. GREER: Well, we have to become a peaceful civilization.
So there is why it's very important
that there be a global decision to keep all weapons out
of space, to announce that we're not alone in the universe,
and we need to have a overt recognized
global diplomatic contact with these civilizations,
not let it be in the hands of secret military operations.
See, and this is where it's been a huge mistake.
People I've talked to who are in the system
recognize that the secrecy created
a bubble where things could happen without any checks
and balances, which is always dangerous
and sort of a hermetically sealed echo chamber.
And from that, all kinds of mistakes were made.
And I think the only way to resolve
is have the wise people on the planet
be ambassadors to these civilizations.
I had a lucid dream back in the 70s,
where I saw this beautiful event that happened,
and ironically, it looked like it was at white sands,
and I was there.
I was older.
There were a lot of people who were there.
It was being supported by governments
and the military protectively, and in broad daylight,
a sort of egg-shaped seamless craft
lands and an extraterrestrial elder comes out,
and this is televised to the world
in a very positive, open, beautiful moment for humanity.
And it was very clear.
I mean, I see that as a possible future,
we need to get to where that can happen.
And when we do, instead of uniting the world
around a military threat, like Ronald Reagan talked
about the UN, the world becomes united around another vision
that we can become a peaceful civilization
with free energy, abundance, real social justice, and then
in that state of peace, be welcomed in space.
That, I think, has been forestalled.
I call it the lost century, but I think we can do it.
I actually, I think it's something
that absolutely must happen.
BILLY: That's a great vision, and I
think that you're taking a lot of steps
right now to create that future a reality.
Do you think that all of this mass consciousness and CE-5
protocol being developed around the world
and being done all around the world
will lead us to a Galactic Federation acceptance?
DR. GREER: I think there's no doubt
that's where we're going to end up,
and I think I've mentioned this probably within the next 1,000
years or so, is that human civilization, Earth will
be integrated into all the others interstellar,
and that's a huge number, by the way.
And that exists out there already for advanced worlds.
The worlds that have hit level two, three, four,
they're already doing that.
We're coming along, and there are
others by the way behind us.
Now there are planets that are, maybe,
where we were 200,000 years ago or 50,000 years ago.
So it's a process that never ends.
And looking forward, I should probably tell the story.
It's a little bit--
sounds like the science fiction, but it's important
because everyone's heard of Rendlesham
Forest, the Bentwaters case.
What people don't know is that the senior military officers
there that they didn't want to share publicly here's
what happened.
That black pyramid that looked like a onyx
that landed for which the Ministry of Defense,
after I was over there meeting with them,
they eventually released the reports of the soil
and what have you.
There are a lot of things that happened.
That was a covert nuclear weapons base.
People need to understand that.
Had that been known, it could have triggered World War III
during the dark days of the Cold War, you know,
the 70s, 80s, very, very dangerous period.
And the ETs that were in this pyramid floated through,
and they were luminous tall, white forms--
came through the side and connected
to the senior officers and were saying,
we are your descendants from 500,000 years in the future.
So people say, well, they were humans.
I said, no, it was after humanity
had become for hundreds of thousands
of years interstellar, and it kept
evolving into that level seven, eight,
nine level of conscious beings.
And they were concerned and said if you stay on the path you're
on now, we won't exist.
Your descendants won't exist.
So these are our children's children's children
20,000 generations forward.
BILLY: Right, so, are we at a crossroads
between a convergent timeline where either we're
going to become a warfaring race that's leading to a destruction
or hopefully leading to one of these higher
levels of civilization you talked about?
DR. GREER: Yeah, we're exactly at that inflection point,
and we've been there for about 100 years, actually.
I remember we could have had world peace in the early 1900s.
We could have had free energy and Tesla type technologies
by the 20s.
We could have had electrogravitics levitation
and very advanced trans-dimensional systems
certainly by the 40s, '50s, '60s.
So this is a matter of choice, and this
is the interplay between the fact
that there is one era closing, the era of rise and fall
and division.
We have to learn those lessons, nail them, learn them
permanently, and go, OK, that path
we've done as a collective civilization species.
Now we need to learn this new lesson of oneness, of unity,
of consciousness.
We have to transcend our divisiveness
and find where we're really one, and that's a spiritual issue
as much as it is a social justice one.
But if we just stay divided into warring camps,
it's like the eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
At a certain point, I view this really
as a spiritual problem at its root,
and the solution is spiritual.
Not necessarily religious, maybe for some people.
But I think, for the most part, we have to recognize it
as a transcendent spiritual crisis,
and there is a spiritual solution,
and that has to do with understanding
the ineffable but very ever-present oneness we
all share through this conscious spirit that is the singularity
that, you know, as Erwin Schrodinger said,
the father of modern quantum physics particle wave theory,
"In 1908, the total number of minds in the universe is one."
So we have to be deep enough to see
that like the compassion of the Buddha,
where we see that all beings are us, we are they, they are us.
So that is this the motto for what I'm doing
is one universe, one people.
I view these civilizations out in space as people,
they may be very different looking,
they may be very different cultures, but they are people.
They're intelligent, sentient people.
And I think we need to get to that level of understanding
and not project the divisiveness and the racism
and all the tribal warfare of the last yuga onto the future.
See, I think we need to go beyond that.
And of course, the wise people of the last 100 years
have all called for that, whether it
be Gandhi or Martin Luther King, or many figures
as spiritual leaders.
And I think that at this point, public
has to say we're going to make this happen.
And if we do, it's a collective conscious decision.
So it's a choice.
We're at a fork in the road here and been
there for about 100 years looking at a big perspective,
and we need to make the right choice.
We need to turn away from disunity and warfare
and violence and make a really clear decision
that we're going to live peacefully
on Earth and in space.
So there are people who want to unite the world
against something out there.
That is not going forward, my friends.
That's taken a big leap backward and leads to extinction.
So we have to make this decision,
and we really don't have a lot of time to do it, frankly.
BILLY: Right, exactly.
How do you think reincarnation plays
into this in terms of people coming back
if you believe in that?
DR. GREER: It is a very good question,
and it's probably an hour discussion.
Well, I will give you a hint.
It's not linear.
It's conscious holographic.
So your individuality; you go on forever until such time
as you choose for your drop to permanently be with the ocean.
And even then, what remains of your individuality
is still there.
It's called Leshavidya in Sanskrit,
and you can reconstitute it.
However, you can experience and have
been other lives from not you.
People confuse what I, but from a holographic,
quantum, deeper part of an understanding of who
and what we are, remember this great saying, think
is thyself a puny form when within the universe is folded.
The entirety of creation in the cosmos
is folded within every single person.
That means you can experience past life, now, future life,
and their collective souls.
So the sort of you're born here, you do bad things,
you drop dead, you go into the next world
and get reborn as a dung beetle or something.
That understanding is not correct.
There is a very profound truth to it,
but it's very holographic conscious.
BILLY: Dr. Gregg, tell us a little bit
about potential futures or possible futures.
DR. GREER: Yeah, and this is really
gets into this whole question.
Some people will talk about there are multiple realities
running simultaneously.
And that's true.
And if you look at--
people ask me sometimes, how many dimensions are there?
I said the number of dimensions are how many numbers are there
between zero and infinity.
In reality, the resonant frequency
can be adjusted click by click by click endlessly
from one point to another.
And in understanding that, it means
that at this point in space-time on Earth, there's this reality.
But there are other slightly different realities
that are simultaneously occurring,
but those are clicked away, a bit away.
We don't really perceive them.
We can.
Now, let's talk about this planet here now.
That means we can buy our collective will,
choose different possible futures or probable ones.
Some of them are not very savory.
Some of them are-- lead to a planet in the future
of great enlightenment.
And I think that the timeline is very specific in how much time
we have until we have to get a certain number of things
correct it.
The Earth is not going to allow us to endlessly destroy
her biosphere, for example.
Our weapon systems' and our technology's advancing cannot
continue to be endlessly applied to endless war.
Those are all-- lead to an extermination,
an extinction-level situation.
Now, there's a lot in between, and that's
where there's a lot of, but there
are certain things that are absolute requirement going
forward past a few more decades.
And what that is, time doesn't exist.
I call it the event horizon, the delta of change.
That's what time is, how things change.
And that can be sped up or contracted.
I would suggest we get on with it, frankly.
And I think most people in the planet would benefit from that.
So my hope and my prayer is that people consciously
see and choose the good future, the optimal future, and not
the extinction level 1.
Or that we just become peaceful, but we
stay for hundreds of years in a rather muddled state as
opposed to pursuing higher states of consciousness
and the destiny of the golden era of humanity, that is,
the intention of this next big cycle,
yuga, which is about a 500,000 years cycle.
BILLY: Dr. Greer, you have a special vision for humanity
as we look to the future.
What do you see in that future for us?
DR. GREER: What I see is us making it
through this phase transition of chaos that we're in right now.
And there will be very rapidly at that point coherence
on the planet.
First sort of a material geopolitical world
peace here and on Earth, rapidly followed
by the pursuit of not only higher states of consciousness
but the release of these technologies
that will transform the world.
So the world that I have seen into the future,
I had one wonderful lucid dream vision.
I was in my 90s, and I was up in my beloved mountains
of North Carolina or Virginia.
I'm part-- my dad was half Cherokee Native American,
and I was on this thing, a device, a personalized
levitation device floating over these beautiful gorges
and mountains, and it was pristine.
The whole Earth was pristine.
There was a very clear vision, but then I
saw the cities how we lived in the future,
and the world was pristine.
There was no pollution.
All defilement of the Earth had vanished.
And remember, the technology we have already
that are classified would enable us to clean up all the damage
existing now in the oceans, the land, the air, including
radioactive.
I've seen systems where you can put radioactive material in,
it neutralizes it, and the output is completely cleaned.
There are some transmutation of elements
that happen there, too, by the way, in those systems.
You end up with some silver and gold and the output that
wasn't on the input because these are high magnetized
plasma systems that take the waste material in,
chemical or radioactive, and the magnetic force
causes the electron shell to become a toroid,
and then the nuclei combined.
So it's like, yeah, and then it goes from the periodic table
to different-- but it also gets rid
of the radioactive isotopes.
So these are technologies I have seen personally.
These are extant.
They're on the Earth now.
So think of those all being released for peaceful purposes,
not war, not weapons, and suddenly we have no pollution,
and we have no poverty.
Things can be materialized eventually.
And we have a civilization where the scrounging
to make a subsistence existence is a thing of the past.
Most illnesses and disease are a thing of the past.
You know, human life will extend to our natural genetic clock
about 120 years, but epigenetically,
with consciousness and medicine coming together,
what happens in meditative states?
You unlock all these genes they used to think were junk DNA,
and suddenly, our bodies are transformed.
We're able to live quite much, quite a deal longer,
because of the interface between meditative states
consciousness, the environment, diet, all of it and stress.
And so, perhaps we live to be much longer than that.
And then, on top of it, you have the ability
to have societies that are evolving where
the focus becomes mainly on the science of consciousness,
developing higher states of consciousness.
So you go from, I call, a material peace
to the great peace, the inner peace,
the peace of enlightenment.
But that's a transitional period,
and I see that happening over the next few decades
and hundreds of years.
And then from there, the stars are the limit,
and the celestial is the--
I mean, there is no limit.
Our civilization will become very advanced up
to and through a level six, seven, eight
that I outlined in the prior episode, where
everyone on the planet is literally born eventually
in enlightenment.
And we'll eventually get there.
Now that's a while, but it can happen very quickly
because once you reach a certain sort
of critical conscious evolution, it happens very rapidly.
And physically, you evolve rapidly.
And the good news has come out in science
in the last few years when people
are in a meditative state, and they begin to actually increase
their IQ, they increase their body-mind complex becomes
much more refined that that state gets
passed on in the next generation, your children,
immediately.
And then, as they evolve, it gets passed there.
So instead of us being keep going forward
and falling back and forth, it becomes this ascendant arc
that is not only-- it's conscious bioevolution where
we're going to become an extraordinary civilization.
BILLY: Dr. Greer, this has been an amazing interview.
Is there one last thing you want to leave our viewers
with before we end the series?
DR. GREER: Yes, I love the experience
that Colonel Corso had in 1956.
I was one year old, and he had this meeting with an ET
out in the desert that had landed daytime.
And interestingly, you know, the craft was solid,
and then it would dematerialize and look
like a heatwave in the desert.
And it went back and forth.
Eventually, the ET communicated with him.
And of course, the Colonel was the brash Air Force Colonel,
he said, and the ET was really wanting them to shut down
some of the radar systems that were not just radar
but were directional energy weapons.
And the Colonel said, what's in it for me?
And the ET said, a new world if you can take it.
So, what I tell people is that, OK, that's what?
65 years ago now.
I think we need to take it.
I think it's time for us to say, OK, this
has been possible for decades.
Now we need to collectively choose it,
and I think if enough people--
and I think it only takes about 1% like I said,
that whole consciousness effect.
That if 1% of the population understands
the power of consciousness, move together as one,
become CE-5 Contact ambassadors to the universe,
work in their communities to educate folks,
this can happen very quickly now.
And since the subject is now being talked about quite
openly, we need to say, OK, here's
what the actual truth is, but more importantly, here's
what everyone can do about it.
So it's really a call to action.
It's not just to have the intellectual knowledge.
Is actually to move and walk that walk.
And I think I would ask that everyone consider what they can
do to walk that walk and create this beautiful world
of our dreams in which this ET intimated.
It's a new world if you can take it.
I think we should make the decision knowing
can we take it, we want it, and we're
going to make it happen now.
BILLY: Absolutely.
Thank you, Dr. Greer.
DR. GREER: Thank you.
Pleasure being with you.
BILLY: I'm Billy Carson.
This concludes this season of Disclosure
with Dr. Steven Greer.
Thanks for watching.
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