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BILLY CARSON: Welcome to "Disclosure
with Dr. Steven Greer."
In this episode, we explore the levels of consciousness,
cosmology, and technology.
Welcome, Dr. Greer.
STEVEN GREER: Thank you.
Glad to be with you again.
BILLY: Thank you.
You talk about the conscious holographic universe.
Can you walk us through that?
GREER: Yes, I think it's really important for people
to understand that right now, you and I are awake,
and we're conscious, and everyone listening.
That conscious mind, whereby you're awake,
is actually an infinite field of awareness.
We're only identifying it with ourselves,
but in reality, it's always infinite and unbounded.
And the reason we end up not identifying
with the infinite unbounded aspect of it
is that we have been trained only
to be focused on our own-- what's right in front of us.
So when you go into meditation, you
can experience deeper, quiet consciousness,
and then, in that state, you can see remote places.
That's remote viewing or being a seer.
You can see the future, and that's precognition.
You can see other realms, the so-called worlds
of light-- astral, celestial, other dimensions,
higher and lower.
And you can perceive, also, the very structure of the cosmos,
where the first emanations from the field of consciousness
are beginning to emerge.
And those first emanations are the tonality of thought.
It's the sound component of thought.
Interestingly, that's what a mantra is--
chanting.
But if you look at it from a structure of the cosmos point
of view, it's that you have this impulse that emerges,
that is-- it's self-conscious and consciousness.
And that first emergence from the unbounded field
of consciousness was the plane of the absolute,
as the mystics call it.
There's this stimulation, this initial thought of--
from the great spirit, and it's called the primal thought.
And that primal thought and tonality,
that then differentiates into all that exists in the cosmos,
in creation, not just the material, 3D, but all
the worlds of light, the--
all that exists.
So that primal thought is constantly there.
It's not like it came and went.
It's a continuous presence.
That, then, unfolds into the specific tonality thought
essence that's conscious within all things.
So this primal thought then goes like a fractal
into an infinite number of expressed things--
stars, people, rocks.
Everything has this within it.
So standing within every single point in space, time, or object
is the unbounded consciousness, because all this
is that, this emanation of tonality,
primal thought, that then differentiates
into that specific object.
From there, you have the emanation of light,
so the first emanation of light from the primal thought
has been called the most great light.
But from that most great light, you then
have the expression into the light within all things.
So then, at that point that this emanation
of the pure light form that's undifferentiated then
becomes the worlds of light, they're called.
And this can be all the different dimensions--
higher, lower, angelic, celestial,
to the very highest level.
Now, the highest level of the expressed
is very, very close to that most great light primary emanation.
So what happens is then from there,
you have a template that interfaces,
that creates time, space, matter, 3D.
So I think for us to understand these extraterrestrial
civilizations, we have to understand a new cosmology.
Now, let's talk about the technologies.
If you're going to go from one point in space and time
to another beyond the speed of light,
you're traversing along, I call it,
the underbelly of the cosmos, but you have actually
transdimensionally shifted into the astral or near astral.
And you know, people think this is so hard to understand,
but think about it.
Most people have had a lucid flying dream, where
they see a place or a future.
But how does that happen?
It's because the consciousness within us
and our deeper, subtle bodies are not as fixed
in space and time and intellect as we normally associate,
and, therefore, you can see a distant place, a distant time,
a future event, a past event.
So that is very much involved with extraterrestrial
technologies have those abilities
that this cosmos that I'm talking about
is actually utilized more fully--
let's say a fuller spectrum is used
by interstellar civilizations than we are now on Earth.
So that's really important.
So now, you get into this whole question
of extraterrestrial spacecraft and civilizations and people.
Yes, they can appear full 3D, but they
could be hovering outside your window in 5D.
What's interesting about this, I call
this "the gap," this interface between 3D
and these other dimensions.
And in that gap is a lot going on of where the material cosmos
and what we call physical sciences can begin to interface
with these more subtle, finer refinements, very
fine versions of electromagnetism
that are beyond the speed of light.
And matter into the near interface, where the astral,
so-called, conscious light energy becomes form
and matter--
that is very much the mastery that
happens between the science of consciousness
and all its expressions and 3D, physical sciences
like we think of today on Earth.
And that's our future.
I mean, that's why, I say the science of consciousness being
integrated with physical understanding instead
of an either/or is going to be an integrated--
BILLY: Together.
GREER: --system.
BILLY: Do you think that some of these ET civilizations
live in other dimensions, actually live there, and then
can just faceshift their frequency
to walk into our dimension?
GREER: Well, all-- if they're from a physical planet
and a physical spacecraft, they traverse these other dimensions
and can reside in those dimensions
as long as they wish or not.
That's why it isn't just while during transport.
They can be outside the building here,
shifted beyond the speed of light in the near astral
or in the gap or partially in this dimension
or fully in the astral.
Now, as you go through more advanced civilizations,
the technologies track the level of consciousness
of the planet as they evolve and higher states of consciousness.
BILLY: Dr. Greer, you've highlighted
the hierarchy of the states of consciousness for beings.
Can you tell us a little bit more about that?
GREER: Sure, and I think it's important to understand it,
because this is the path all of us are on.
Now, what I'm going to describe is, again, a linear--
sounded like a linear process, when, in reality,
various states of consciousness begin to overlap and unfold,
so certain aspects of it will be happening all the time.
But the basic ones are everybody is aware of being awake,
sleeping, dreaming.
And then there's another one.
And the basic one is in meditation--
our society ignores this--
is being in that transcendent state of samadhi, where
you're just aware of awareness.
You're not aware of your thoughts, yourself.
You're in this very peaceful, unboundedness of being awake.
So it's the nothingness of being infinitely awake,
not the nothingness of being asleep and dark.
So that experience is something that you
can have spontaneously or through the practice
regularly of meditation and understanding that.
By the way, all meditation techniques
should be designed to get you to that point
where the meditation technique stops.
The technique is just getting you to a place
where you can let go and where the individuality
of your individual soul can merge
with this unbounded field.
And so from there, what's interesting,
as you go through the development of higher
states of consciousness, intentionally
engaging in meditation, the study, and various techniques,
you will, at some point, experience
cosmic consciousness, as it's been termed,
which is when you're aware of that unbounded conscious field,
even while you're driving, walking, what have you.
And this develops slowly for most people,
but the key hallmark of it is you're
aware of that unbounded conscious state
from having been immersed in it in meditation enough,
even while you're awake and dreaming and sleeping.
And so then you open up the whole richness of dream time,
as Aboriginals in Australia call it,
where you have these experiences even in the dream state,
which, again, most people have that
even before they're established in cosmic consciousness.
So you can have transitory cosmic consciousness
experiences that come and go, but it
being established all the time is
when you're fully in that state all the time.
BILLY: Right.
GREER: As that is established and while it's
being established, you spontaneously
begin to develop more and more ability
to have what's called celestial perception and the perception
literally, physically, and within your mind
of these resonant frequencies that
cross over into astral all the way to celestial
and, eventually, to the divine.
We call it Godhead or the God consciousness
state of that being.
Then there's another state-- it's
a little more abstract-- where you actually
perceive everything as pure consciousness.
And you usually need to have someone who's experienced
that to sort of say, yeah, that's what that is,
because it's incredibly subtle.
But where you actually see everything as--
so it's unbounded consciousness within
and unbounded consciousness out.
And those become one.
That's why it's called unity consciousness.
There's this woven together-- your direct perception
of the world around you is that it
is at all consciousness, a very, very
high state of consciousness.
And then there's a state beyond that, Brahmin consciousness,
as it's been termed.
And this is more universal consciousness,
where you, as an individual, experience the consciousness
of the entire creation.
And the reason they're important is that these have corollaries
not only into CE-5 contact but the kinds of civilizations
we interact with.
BILLY: Dr. Greer, what are the technological corollaries
to these cities that you mentioned?
GREER: Yeah, and this is really
where the rubber meets the road in terms of CE-5
contact and this subject.
So everyone's heard about the CIA remote viewing
projects and all of that.
Those are the low tech ones, but that actually gets--
when you get a really developed civilization or some
of the more developed classified projects,
those capabilities get--
I call it routinized, where it's made routine scientifically
through technological systems that interface
with consciousness and thought.
So this is where you get into the technology-assisted
consciousness, where your consciousness can
be assisted in remote viewing or seeing
in the past or the future through a technological system.
And ETs have those devices, because in ET systems,
involve the ability to drop out of space-time linearity
and be able to see things past, now, or future.
Caveat-- anything that's perceived in the future
is only a probable future.
The recent charlatans are always going to say on October 15,
XYZ is going to happen is that by the time they
utter it and see it, it can change the timeline
or whether it will happen or not.
So when you're talking about future,
except for very big events that are sort of fixed,
you're talking about the probability.
Now, the probability may be 99%.
It's never 100% when you're talking off the right now
or what's already happened.
Everything that's happened in the past and happening now
is engraven within the structure of these other dimensions
and consciousness and is always going on.
Now, so here's an example of that.
One of my military advisors was at the White Oaks Naval
Facility in Maryland before it closed,
and this is back in the '70s.
And they had a device in naval intelligence,
where it was called--
they could extract from what they
called the white noise of space time anything that had ever
happened in any volume of space.
So they could target, say, the space
where this building is and see what's going on right now
or what happened last night or what
happened 1,000 years ago in this space
or happened a million years ago with absolute accuracy.
And that was in, I think, '73, '4, that era, and it
had been around a while.
But those technologies, imagine what interstellar civilizations
that have been going interstellar
for hundreds or thousands or millions of years--
they have generation 5,000 of this stuff,
so just keep that in mind.
So and then you get into things like, for example, levitation.
I've talked about the fact that a city that
develops and can happen spontaneously
is the ability to levitate.
Well, how is that really happening?
Well, when you're in a certain state of meditation,
and it's sort of also connected to the heart and joy,
it creates a--
and the heart has 30, 40,000 neurons, by the way,
and is electromagnetic, as is the brain, as is
the whole body, you can alter the angular momentum
and spin of all your molecules and atoms, so you lift up.
You click it a little further, you
will dematerialize and disappear and appear somewhere else.
This can all be done by developing
higher states of consciousness, and everyone's
read accounts of enlightened masters who could do this.
Now there's a corollary to that--
obviously, anti-gravity.
Well, they're using an electromagnetic, very high
voltage system to create the same effect that a very high
consciousness state can affect.
It's all both levitation of material objects.
Similarly, when you get into these consciousness-assisted
technologies, you can actually have consciousness
that is interfacing with your technologies
so that you teleport or materialize
or lift things at a distance.
That can be done technologically,
and ETs have that.
And then you have things like full on teleportation.
Now, those experiments began in the '40s, '50s.
One of the disclosure witnesses was at an Air Force base
in '53, where they were teleporting solid objects
from one part of the base to another,
and it would go from one electronic system to another
and go, boom, boom, and that was '53.
So we know that that can be done technologically,
but it can also be done, as I mentioned, through the cities,
the higher states of consciousness.
You see, there's a pattern here.
Almost everything you've heard about that
is an innate ability and consciousness
can be made routine, routinized through scientific discovery
and has been, frankly.
And the same thing-- dematerialize, rematerialize.
Now, in the ET systems and classified projects,
these transdimensional interstellar craft
have to be able to drop out of 3D materialization, go
through these other dimensions-- they're
called "transdimensional--" and appear
at another point in space-time.
And in a sense, they can create their own portals.
Everyone thinks you have to have a pre-existing portal.
Actually, CE-5 groups-- we are creating our own portal right
above what we're doing.
And the same thing with--
you hear of masters who can materialize
a ruby or an object.
BILLY: Right.
GREER: Well, a little bit like Star Trek,
ET civilizations, their manufacturing of their craft
is through these transdimensional energy fields,
where the reason when you see an actual ET craft, there
aren't any parts to it.
And in fact, the material in it is so pure
that even in space, we haven't been
able to replicate the purity.
Why?
It's because it is materialized.
It is brought in from let's call them elementals of this gap,
from the near astral to the physical,
and it is then resonantly infraultrasonically
and resonant fields brought into 3D.
So that's an electronic system but a very refined one,
and that's how they materialize things.
And then, you have other types of experiences-- bilocation,
trilocation.
It means that an ET craft can be in multiple places at once.
Now, enlightened masters have been
able to bilocate and meet with more than one of their students
at the same time.
You hear these accounts.
Well, it's the same thing in consciousness,
but then made routine through electronic systems,
because, in reality, like the spooky effect
Einstein talked about, you can have the same particle
in two places at once.
Well, you can do the same thing not just with a particle,
but an entire spacecraft.
And then you get into things like remote healing event.
A wonderful doctor, Larry Dossey,
did the book, "Recovering the Soul," about remote prayer
and healing events that they've been studied.
And humans can do that, and as you
go into higher states of consciousness
or understand the power of consciousness and prayer,
you can affect outcomes and help people heal at a distance.
Well, there are electronic corollaries
to that that are using the consciousness field,
so interstellar civilizations have that and can
do amazing healing with it.
BILLY: You speak about the 10 levels of civilizations,
and can you speak on that?
And also, where are we going as a civilization?
GREER: Oh, the latter part of the question--
we're headed off a cliff if we don't change directions.
As the Chinese proverb says, unless we change directions,
we're likely to end up where we are going,
and so we need a course correction.
The civilizations that are interstellar,
in order to cross the threshold where we are,
where we have these fearsome weapon systems that could
eliminate all life on Earth, and not just hydrogen and nuclear
bombs, but others that are classified, so we're--
human civilization's at a level zero.
We're basically not yet a real civilization.
We're trying to get there.
But eventually a civilization has to reach level 1,
or they self-destruct.
And the hallmark of a level 1 civilization
is that it's a peaceful, global civilization where
all their technologies are life-supporting technologies.
They're not ones where you're blowing things up, digging
things out of the ground, burning coal and oil
and chopping down things.
You're using these advanced technologies,
and you develop a world-- and this is where we're headed.
We need-- we should have been there 100 years ago,
but we're running out of time.
Now, we need to pick up the pace and do
what I call a time snap, where we regain
where we should have been 100 years ago in 20 years, 15,
20 years.
So that's a level 1 civilization,
and you imagine, at that point, there's no pollution.
There's no poverty.
The workweek probably drops 10 to 15 hours a week.
There's abundance.
It's a totally different economic system,
environmental system, and justice system, social system,
where people--
there's just not the haves and have-nots,
because there's total abundance due
to these advanced technologies that create endless abundance.
So at that point, there's the possibility
of a permanent peace, a level 2.
Now, the thing about permanent peace
means that you're not just becoming peaceful and slipping
back, and a permanent peace requires
a certain level of conscious, spiritual,
and social integration.
And this is where you develop transdimensional technologies
that are only being used for peaceful purposes
that we've talked about before-- travel, going from point A to B
with anti-grav.
Here's a beautiful part of that.
Once people are freed from the shackles
of the macroeconomic system we're in,
which, actually, is sort of like an extension of slavery
industrially, you have the ability
to have people really pursue higher states of consciousness.
Why?
Because they're freed up.
They're not working.
You know, both parents aren't working 40, 50,
60 hours a week, so there's the ability
to engage in creative endeavors, pursue
higher states of consciousness, and really develop
your spirituality.
It becomes practical to do.
So-- and then, that will allow you
to evolve and be ready for clearance for takeoff
to become an interstellar civilization.
That's a level 3 civilization.
You are an interstellar civilization,
because you've been in stable.
You're peaceful.
You're not engaging in weapon systems in space.
There's widespread establishment of the science
of consciousness.
And the integration between your world and other worlds
begins to happen overtly, openly.
And my sense is that probably in the next 1,000 years,
Earth will be fully integrated into these other interstellar
civilizations that are at that level, a 3 or above.
And then a level 4 civilization--
this gets into where you're really
developing higher states of consciousness,
because at a level 4, you have at least 1%
of the population in cosmic consciousness, very
high enlightened state-- not everybody, but at least 1%.
And that creates an effect on the entire population
again through this 1% effect that is non-local.
And these are the senior ambassadors
that we've had encounters and meetings with that
are in an enlightened state of cosmic consciousness--
like I mentioned, kindness, Bijou, the healer.
They're all in those very high states of consciousness.
And contact with other advanced civilizations
is their primary purpose.
They are literally ambassadors to the universe.
It's the CE-5 project, I have called--
we're ambassadors to the universe.
And they also provide guidance to emerging civilization
and kind of oversee and be sure that they
don't go too far in a direction that could harm other planets.
And that's-- you see some of the civilizations that are here are
at that level where they're trying to be sure we don't have
too much damage that emerges from Earth to other places.
And then level 5 civilization is getting very rarefied.
Now, this is a civilization where everyone on the planet
is in cosmic consciousness.
They're born into enlightenment, because we don't have time
to go into the epigenetic effects of consciousness
on the body and on the genes and how it's passed on
from one generation to another.
But I'll just give you a hint.
When you are in a meditative state,
but you're in a very high meditative state,
it alters your genetic and neuroplasticity of your brain,
but that's passed on in one generation.
So then you have the entire planet
has become enlightened, truly, in cosmic consciousness.
And so this then leads to the widespread and accelerated
experience of innate cities and the parallel
of those being applied technologically
in almost everything that planet is doing.
So when you go back to what I shared a moment ago,
that becomes just the way of life.
And then a level 6 civilization--
this is when many people experience some of those ET
beings almost at a celestial level,
because that's when at least 1% of that world
are in a state of God consciousness permanently.
And that affects everything else and where their technologies
almost reach a refinement of the celestial,
but it's technological, and they're from a planet--
very, very-- they often get confused with an angel,
but they all have a craft with them.
So this is where there's a lot of confusion--
I call it cosmological indigestion-- that happens,
because there is overlap of experiences
people have with beings from other dimensions
with these very, very highly developed civilizations
that are out there.
And the physical world that those planets takes literally
on the quality of a celestial realm,
so it can be physical but also has this celestial quality.
And their spacecraft do, too.
And then you have, from there, in this natural progression,
at level 7, everyone on the planet from birth
is in God consciousness.
Number 7, that's where humans will be in about 300,000
to 500,000 years.
By the end of this Yuga, this cycle,
this entire planet will be inhabited by beings like that,
by us having our progeny 20,000 generations in the future.
It's really very beautiful.
And at that point, that civilization really
correlates the celestial realm.
They can phase by intent from 3D to celestial, the world
and the craft, all of it.
And it's a very exalted state of civilization.
And then at a level 8 civilization,
this is where you have all the technologies are interfacing
as a celestial level--
I mean everything on the planet--
not just the advanced ambassadors and starships,
but the entire manifestation of their planet.
And really, it's then by thought everything happens.
You materialize, do everything just exactly like you've
heard in these higher celestial realms,
but they're in a planetary system.
And they can then choose, by the way,
to be in the universe we think of or in this higher
celestial dimension.
And then, now we're going to get into some extremely advanced
civilizations, the level 9, where you have about 1%
of that population that are in Brahmin consciousness,
universal consciousness.
The ambassadors of and guardians of entire emerging worlds
are from that level.
I call them the primogenitures of life
and the protectors of the development of life
throughout the cosmos.
And then level 10, everyone in that civilization
is in Brahmin consciousness.
BILLY: It's just incredible.
This is so beautiful.
GREER: Yeah, it's beautiful where we're going.
BILLY: Yeah, absolutely.
I agree 1,000%.
GREER: Yep.
BILLY: Thank you, Dr. Greer.
That was amazing.
GREER: Thank you.
BILLY: I'm Billy Carson.
Thank you for watching "Disclosure
with Dr. Steven Greer."