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<P>THE POPE Shut out of Heaven Gates: OR, A DIALOGUE BETWEEN
<LIST>
<ITEM>Pope <HI>Julius</HI> the 2^d^.</ITEM>
<ITEM>His <HI>Genius,</HI> and</ITEM>
<ITEM>Saint <HI>Peter.</HI></ITEM>
</LIST></P>
<P>Wherein is mo&s;t <HI>elegantly, learnedly,</HI> and <HI>wittily</HI> &s;et forth how Pope <HI>Julius</HI> (after death) imperiou&s;ly knocking at Heaven Gates, is ab&s;olutely denied Entrance by Saint <HI>Peter;</HI> &s;o that though having been alwayes &s;til'd His <HI>Holine&s;s,</HI> and made famous by his Warlike Actions, whereby he hoped to become Lord of Hea|ven, he is notwith&s;tanding delivered over as a Slave to Satan, and hurried away to the Devil's Man&s;ion.</P>
<P>Exactly from the Original of the Famous and Learned <HI>Era&s;mus Roterodamus.</HI></P>
<Q><HI>Lector, Ri&s;um cohibe.</HI></Q>
<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed for <HI>Roger Vaughan</HI> in <HI>Bi&s;hop's Court,</HI> in the <HI>Old-Baily,</HI> and are to be &s;old by the <HI>Book-&s;ellers,</HI> 1673.</P>
</DIV1>
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<BODY>
<DIV1 TYPE="drama">
<PB REF="2">
<PB N="3" REF="2">
<HEAD>The Speakers;
<LIST>
<ITEM><HI>Julius</HI> II.</ITEM>
<ITEM><HI>Genius.</HI></ITEM>
<ITEM>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></ITEM>
</LIST></HEAD>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Pope <HI>Julius</HI> II.</SPEAKER>
<P>WHat's here to do with a mi&s;chief? won't the&s;e Gates of Heaven open? Sure either the Wards are changed, or the Lock out of Order.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Genius.</SPEAKER>
<P>You had be&s;t look whether you have brought the right Key, for the &s;ame do's not open the&s;e Gates that opens your Money-che&s;t; why did not you there|fore bring both? for that indeed is the Key of <HI>Power,</HI> but not of <HI>Knowledge.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I never had any other then this, and cannot imagine what occa&s;ion there &s;hould be of any other, while this is here.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>Nor I neither; but that in the mean time we &s;hall be &s;hut out.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I grow mon&s;trous angry: I'le knock down the&s;e Doors: Ho, within there; &s;ome one open this Gate quickly, or &mdash; what's to do here? &mdash; do's no
<PB N="4" REF="3">body come yet? where's this lazy Porter? &s;ure he's dead drunk and &s;noring.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>How he mea&s;ures every one by him&s;elf)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>'Tis well the&s;e are Adamantine Gates, el&s;e whoever this is, would have broke them down, &s;ure this mu&s;t be &s;ome mighty Giant, or Potent Lord, the &s;ubverter of Cities: &mdash; But Foh! what common Sewer or Jakes is this I &s;mell? I won't pre&s;ently open the Gate, but out of the Wicket &s;ee if I can di&s;cover the wonder. What art thou? or, what would&s;t have here?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Open you the Gate, Sir, as &s;oon as you can: had you done your Duty, you ought to have come and met me with all the Train of Heaven.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Bravely Imperious!</HI> But pray let me fir&s;t know who you are?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>As though you did not &s;ee?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>See! I &s;ee indeed a new and unu&s;ual &s;ight, I will not &s;ay a Mon&s;ter.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But if you been't &s;tark blind, you will, I &s;up|po&s;e, know this <HI>Key,</HI> if you don't know the Golden Oak, and you may &s;ee my <HI>Triple Crown</HI> and my <HI>Robes</HI> every where &s;hining with Gold and precious Stones.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>That <HI>Silver Key</HI> indeed I in a &s;ort do know, though it be <HI>alone,</HI> and much unlike tho&s;e, which of old the true Pa&s;tor of the Church, <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> delivered to me: but that <HI>Exalted Crown</HI> how &s;hould I po&s;&s;ibly have any knowledge of? which no barbarous Tyrant ever dur&s;t wear, nor indeed any one that ever de&s;ired entrance here: As for tho&s;e Robes, they move not me at all, and that Gold and Jewels I &s;hall ever contemn and trample on as dung. But what's the matter? I &s;py
<PB N="5" REF="3">every-where upon thy Key, thy Crown and thy Robe, marks of a mo&s;t horrid <HI>Vilain</HI> and <HI>Impo&s;tor,</HI> bearing in|deed my <HI>Title,</HI> but not at all of my <HI>In&s;titution;</HI> rather of <HI>Simon</HI> the Sorcerers, whom by Chri&s;t's a&s;&s;i&s;tance I o'rethrew.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Leave this trifling if you're wi&s;e; for whether you know it or no? I am <HI>Julius</HI> that <HI>Ligurian,</HI> and you will own, or I am deceived, two letters <HI>P. M.</HI> unle&s;s you never learned any.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I &s;uppo&s;e they &s;ignifie <HI>Pe&s;tilent Mi&s;chief.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Ha, ha, ha, how right has he hit it)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No, Sir, they &s;ignifie <HI>Pontifex Maximus,</HI> or <HI>Mighty Pope.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Be as <HI>Mighty</HI> as you will, and reckon your &s;elf among the <HI>Mightie&s;t,</HI> nay, <HI>Mightier</HI> then <HI>Hermes Tri&s;megi&s;tus,</HI> you &s;hall not be received here un|le&s;s you were likewi&s;e good, &mdash; that is, <HI>Holy.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Why if it be any thing to the purpo&s;e to be cal|led <HI>Holy,</HI> thou art too impudent thus to delay opening the Gates to me, Thou! who for &s;o many Ages ha&s;t only been called <HI>Saint,</HI> when none ever &s;til'd me other then the <HI>Mo&s;t Holy.</HI> There are extant &s;ix thou&s;and Bulls.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Ay Bulls indeed)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>In which I am more then once called the <HI>Mo&s;t Holy Lord,</HI> and alwayes intituled His <HI>Holine&s;s,</HI> not bare <HI>Saint;</HI> &s;o that whatever I had a mind to do, (<HI>Gen.</HI> Though it were in your drink) that they would &s;ay was done by <HI>His Holine&s;s, The mo&s;t Holy Lord</HI> Ju|lius.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>You may e'ne go and ask Heaven too from tho&s;e flatterers, who will be very likely to give you &s;uch a kind of <HI>Happine&s;s</HI> as they did <HI>Holine&s;s.</HI> How|ever
<PB N="6" REF="4">you mu&s;t know it is nothing to be called <HI>Holy:</HI> Are you &s;o?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I am enraged: Had I but leave to live again, I would neither envie you, your <HI>Holine&s;s,</HI> nor your <HI>Hap|pine&s;s.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Words well becoming an <HI>Holy Mind!</HI> but indeed looking &s;eriou&s;ly on you, I can di&s;cover many marks of <HI>Impiety,</HI> but not one of <HI>Sanctity:</HI> For what makes that new Attendance which looks not very Prie&s;tly? Thou bringe&s;t here neer twenty thou&s;and a|long with thee, and yet in the whole croud I &s;ee not one has &s;o much as the countenance of a <HI>Chri&s;tian.</HI> I &s;ee a filthy dunghil of men, &s;melling of nothing but <HI>Brothels, Drink,</HI> and <HI>Gunpowder,</HI> they look like Thieves hired to vilany, or rather like Helli&s;h Goblins broke from the Deeps to wage War again&s;t Heaven. And the more I view thee, the le&s;s can I di&s;cern any foot|&s;teps of an <HI>Apo&s;tolical</HI> Per&s;on: For to begin, how mon|&s;trous is it to &s;ee thee outwardly clad in Prie&s;tly Robes, and inwardly groaning under horrid Arms! Then what <HI>murderous</HI> eyes, what a <HI>&s;tubborn</HI> look, what a <HI>threatning</HI> forehead, and what a <HI>lofty</HI> and <HI>arrogant</HI> countenance; for I am <HI>a&s;hamed</HI> to &s;ay it, and <HI>grieve</HI> to &s;ee it: There is no one part of thy body but is defiled with the marks of <HI>prodigious</HI> and <HI>abominable</HI> Lu&s;t; not to add thy con|tinual <HI>Belching,</HI> thy &s;melling of <HI>Surfet</HI> and <HI>Drunken|ne&s;s,</HI> &s;o that at this moment thou look&s;t as though thou wert <HI>Vomiting;</HI> for by the habit of thy body 'tis per|ceivable thou art not &s;o much broken with Age or Di&s;ea&s;es as with Exce&s;s of <HI>Gluttony</HI> and <HI>Drunkenne&s;s.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>How he &s;ets him out in his true colours.)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I &s;ee thee now darting a <HI>threatning</HI> look
<PB N="7" REF="4">at me, yet I cannot forbear telling thee what I think: I &s;u&s;pect the <HI>pe&s;tilent</HI> Heathen <HI>Julian</HI> to be per&s;onally returned from Hell to defie me, &s;o alike you are in all things.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Ma di &s;i.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What's that he mutters?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>He's angry. At tho&s;e words not one of the Cardinals dur&s;t forbear flying, unle&s;s he would feel His <HI>Holine&s;s</HI>'s Club about his ears, e&s;pecially at a banquet.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Thou &s;eem'&s;t to under&s;tand the man very well: tell me therefore who thou art?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>I am the great <HI>Julius</HI>'s <HI>Genius.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>His <HI>evil</HI> one I believe.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>Whatever I am, <HI>Julius</HI>'s I am.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Pray Sir, leave you off this trifling, and open the Doors pre&s;ently, unle&s;s you will have them broke down; for what need more words, you &s;ee what Com|panions I have brought along with me?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Indeed I &s;ee a crew of <HI>di&s;ciplined</HI> Thieves. But if you don't already know it, let me tell you, The&s;e Gates are to be a&s;&s;aulted and gain'd with other Arms.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I have &s;aid enough I tell you; And unle&s;s you immediately ha&s;ten, I will <HI>fulminate</HI> upon you a <HI>Thun|der-bolt</HI> of <HI>Excommunicatinn</HI> fiercer than tho&s;e where|with I u&s;ed to <HI>Terrify</HI> the <HI>Mightie&s;t</HI> Kings and King|doms. Do you &s;ee this <HI>Bull</HI> already prepared to that purpo&s;e.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What cur&s;ed <HI>fulminating,</HI> and <HI>thundring,</HI> and <HI>Bulls</HI> and <HI>Bubbles</HI> are the&s;e thou tell'&s;t me of? for we never heard of them from <HI>Chri&s;t?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But you &s;hall <HI>feel</HI> them unle&s;s you make ha&s;te.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Whoever you have formerly <HI>terrified</HI>
<PB N="8" REF="5">with the&s;e <HI>vapours,</HI> they <HI>&s;ignifie</HI> nothing here; we mu&s;t have <HI>realities,</HI> and 'tis with <HI>good deeds</HI> not <HI>bad words</HI> this Fortre&s;s is to be gained: but pray how come you to <HI>thunder</HI> out your <HI>Excommunications</HI> again&s;t me? By what right?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>By a very good one, &s;ince thou art now a <HI>pri|vate</HI> Per&s;on, or at be&s;t but a <HI>private Prie&s;t,</HI> and yet &s;carce that neither, as wanting the Power of <HI>Con|&s;ecrating.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Becau&s;e I am thought to be dead.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes &s;ure.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But by the &s;ame rea&s;on thou excelle&s;t not me, being dead too.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes, as long as the Cardinals are in <HI>contention</HI> about the choice of the new <HI>Pope,</HI> mine is the <HI>Right</HI> of <HI>Admini&s;tration.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>He <HI>dreams</HI> he's &s;till living)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But open the Gates I &s;ay.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Unle&s;s you can recount your <HI>Merits,</HI> you do nothing here.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What <HI>Merits?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I'le tell you: Were you <HI>&s;tudious</HI> in Holy <HI>Doctrine?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Not at all: I was too much taken up with <HI>Wars,</HI> and be&s;ides there were <HI>Fryers</HI> enough; but what's this to the purpo&s;e?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Did you by <HI>holine&s;s</HI> of Life <HI>gain</HI> many to <HI>Christ?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>He <HI>&s;ent</HI> many to <HI>Hell</HI>)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Did you <HI>excel</HI> in <HI>Miracles?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>You talk of <HI>ob&s;olete</HI> things.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Did you <HI>a&s;&s;iduou&s;ly, devoutly,</HI> and <HI>&s;incerely pray?</HI></P>
</SP>
<PB N="9" REF="5">
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What <HI>toys</HI> he <HI>tattles</HI> of?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Did you <HI>afflict</HI> your body with <HI>watchings</HI> and <HI>fa&s;tings?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>Tis but in vain to talk to him of the&s;e things, which he thinks but &s;port.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>The&s;e are the mo&s;t excellent <HI>Prie&s;tly endow|ments</HI> I know, if he has any, more <HI>Apo&s;tolical,</HI> let him tell them.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Though it be too ba&s;e a &s;ubmi&s;&s;ion for me, that <HI>Julius</HI> hitherto unconquered &s;hould yield to <HI>Peter,</HI> not to &s;ay to a poor <HI>Fi&s;herman</HI> and a <HI>Beggar;</HI> yet that thou may&s;t be &s;en&s;ible what kind of <HI>Prince</HI> thou contemne&s;t, under&s;tand in the fir&s;t place that I am a <HI>Ligurian,</HI> not a <HI>Jew</HI> like you; one thing only I grieve for, becau&s;e hap|pening to me like you, that is, once I was a Sailor.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>There is no rea&s;on you &s;hould be &s;o much troubled at it, only this is &s;omewhat to the purpo&s;e; he fi&s;h'd for food, you for poor wages row'd at the Oar.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Then to Pope <HI>Sixtus,</HI> that truly great man</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>In <HI>vices</HI> he means)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Nephew</HI> by the <HI>Si&s;ter:</HI> By his &s;ingular favour and my own indu&s;try, I fir&s;t rai&s;ed my &s;elf to <HI>Eccle&s;ia|&s;tical</HI> Riches; from thence by degrees I was carried up to the height of the <HI>Cardinals Cap,</HI> afterwards exer|ci&s;ed by many &s;torms of Fortune, and by many cruel accidents to&s;s'd up and down, and be&s;ides other di|&s;tempers &s;ubject to the <HI>Falling-&s;ickne&s;s;</HI> and la&s;tly quite covered over with that Scab or Pox they call th<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> <HI>French.</HI> To the&s;e was added <HI>banni&s;hment, hatred, condemnation,</HI> and the being <HI>de&s;pi&s;ed</HI> by all, and not <HI>lamented</HI> by any. Yet I never lo&s;t the hope of the <HI>Popedom</HI> &s;uch was the fortitude of my mind. When thou affrighted by a Wo|mans
<PB N="10" REF="6">voice, did&s;t pre&s;ently de&s;i&s;t: for as a Woman took away thy courage, &s;o a certain Witch or Sorcere&s;s gave &s;trength to mine, who when overwhelmed with &s;o many di&s;a&s;ters privately whi&s;pered in my ear, per&s;evere <HI>Julius,</HI> let nothing &s;eem irk&s;ome to <HI>do</HI> or <HI>&s;uffer,</HI> one day thou &s;halt wear the <HI>Triple Crown,</HI> be <HI>King of Kings</HI> and <HI>Lord of Lords:</HI> nor did my <HI>hopes,</HI> or her <HI>Witchcraft</HI> fail me. But thithe<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> beyond all hope I rai&s;ed my &s;elf, partly by the help of the <HI>French,</HI> who &s;tood for me when I was rejected, and partly by the ine&s;timable power of Money, not without much compacted U&s;ury, nor that managed without wit.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What kind of Wi<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> was that?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>That is, not without <HI>Sacerdotal</HI> Promi&s;es beyond the bargain, and the art of finding out &s;ecurity for it, &s;o that I rai&s;ed a greater Trea&s;ure then <HI>Cra&s;&s;us</HI> him&s;elf, had he been pre&s;ent, would have been able to have counted. But 'tis a vanity to tell you the&s;e things which every Serving-man knows. You have heard how I got into it, and I &s;o carried my &s;elf in the Papacy, that there was not any one, I will not &s;ay only of the former <HI>Popes,</HI> which were but <HI>titular</HI> in compari&s;on of me, but of the latter too, to whom the <HI>Church,</HI> or <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> him&s;elf <HI>owed</HI> more then to me.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>How the <HI>Beast</HI> boa&s;ts him&s;elf)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I expect how thou'lt make that out.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Finding out many <HI>new offices,</HI> for &s;o they call them, I much augmented the <HI>Papal</HI> Revenue. Then I invented a way how <HI>Bi&s;hopricks</HI> might be &s;old without falling under the la&s;h of <HI>Simony.</HI> To wit, it was ordain|ed by my Predece&s;&s;ors, that to whom a <HI>Bi&s;hoprick</HI> fell, he &s;hould <HI>lay down</HI> his Office. That I thus interpreted, You are commanded to <HI>lay down.</HI> Now that cannot be
<PB N="11" REF="6"><HI>laid down</HI> which you <HI>have not,</HI> therefore <HI>lay down</HI> a fine. By this art &s;everal <HI>Bi&s;hopricks</HI> yielded in a little time <HI>&s;ix or &s;even hundred thou&s;and</HI> Duckets, be&s;ides what was ordinarily extorted by <HI>Bulls.</HI> Then from the <HI>new Money</HI> (with which I filled all <HI>Italy</HI>) I extracted no &s;mall pro|fit, nor let I any occa&s;ion &s;lip that would rai&s;e Money, perfectly knowing, that without that, nothing could be well done either <HI>&s;acred</HI> or <HI>prophane.</HI> Then that I might arrive at greater things; <HI>Bononia,</HI> for many years in Po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ion of the <HI>Bentivolii,</HI> I re&s;tored to the See of <HI>Rome;</HI> The <HI>Venetians,</HI> never before conquered, I beat by Sea; and the Duke of <HI>Ferrara,</HI> after having long vexed him with tedious War, &s;hut up in <HI>Na&s;&s;a,</HI> That &s;chi&s;matical Cabal, with a fictitious Council, I eluded, drivingout, as we &s;ay, one nail with another: La&s;tly, with the <HI>French,</HI> then Formidable to all the World, I di&s;turbed all <HI>Italy,</HI> and had di&s;turbed the <HI>Spaniards</HI> too, for thither I inten|ded, had Fate granted me longer life. And here take notice with how invincible a mind I acted. I perceived the <HI>French</HI> to ca&s;t a &s;evere eye over me. I let my beard grow, things being almo&s;t brought into de&s;pair, when on a &s;udden comes a Golden Me&s;lenger, bringing news that many thou&s;and <HI>French</HI> were &s;laughtered at <HI>Raven|na;</HI> there <HI>Julius reviv'd.</HI> Upon the&s;e accidents I was for three dayes accounted as dead even to my &s;elf, and yet here again, beyond all hope of my own, I revived. And of &s;uch power was either my <HI>Authority</HI> or my <HI>cun|ning,</HI> that at this day there is no <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> King whom I have not &s;tined up to Arms, breaking and trampling in pieces all League wherewith they had Allyed them|&s;elves together. Next that League (which at <HI>Cambray</HI> the Kings of <HI>France</HI> and <HI>Romans</HI> and other Princes en|tred into with me) I utterly aboli&s;hed, &s;o that not the
<PB N="12" REF="7">lea&s;t mention was made of it. But above all this, after having maintained &s;o great an Army, Adorned &s;uch magnificent Triumphs, Exhibited &s;uch expen&s;ive Plays, Built &s;o many Places, yet dying, I left <HI>fifty hundred thou|&s;and</HI> Duckets; and had done greater things if that <HI>Jew</HI> Phy&s;ician, who by his Art &s;o long prorogued my life, could have &s;pun it out yet further. And Oh! that now &s;ome Magician could re&s;tore me to life, that I might &s;ee an end put to tho&s;e glorious Actions I have begun; yet dying I took diligent care that the Wars, by me &s;et afoot in the World, &s;hould not be compo&s;ed; and made it my bu&s;ine&s;s, even at my la&s;t ga&s;p, to have Money &s;et a part only for that u&s;e. Now to a <HI>Pope</HI> meriting &s;o much from <HI>Christ</HI> and the <HI>Church,</HI> do you delay to open the Gates of Chri&s;t? But that which is mo&s;t wonderful, is, That all the&s;e things were perpetra|ted by the &s;ole virtue of my own mind, and I had none of tho&s;e little helps which others u&s;e to have. Not from <HI>birth,</HI> &s;ince I never knew my Father, which I may &s;ay to my own glory. Not from <HI>beauty,</HI> for all men abhorred my Goblin-face. Not from <HI>learning,</HI> which I never attained to. Not from <HI>&s;trength of body,</HI> being &s;ubject to tho&s;e infirmities I before told you of. Not from <HI>youth,</HI> for I did the&s;e things in my age. Not from the <HI>&s;ailes of popular Applau&s;e,</HI> for there were none but hated me. Not from my <HI>clemency</HI> or granting fa|vours to others, for I was &s;o inexorable, that I even raged again&s;t tho&s;e to whom others coneeded all things.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>How can this be?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Though it &s;eem hard, you'l find it &s;omewhat <HI>ea&s;ie</HI>)</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But Fortune, Age, Sickne&s;s; in &s;hort, Gods
<PB N="13" REF="7">and Men oppo&s;ing, only buoy'd up by my own Cou|rage and Money, in &s;o few years, I acted &s;uch great things, and left &s;o much matter to my Succe&s;&s;ors, that they have Work cut out for ten years: Thus much I have truly, but mode&s;tly &s;aid of my &s;elf, which if any of tho&s;e which were wont to be about me at <HI>Rome,</HI> &s;hould &s;et off in their flouri&s;hing colours, you would hear of a God and not a Man.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Invincible Warrior! &s;ince all the Exploits you tell me are new or unu&s;ual, let me plead an Excu&s;e from my wonder, or my ignorance; and let it not be a trouble to you to an&s;wer to &s;ome particulars I would in|quire into. What are tho&s;e neat pretty trim'd things with you?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>The&s;e I brought up for my <HI>Soul</HI>'s &s;ake.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>And what are tho&s;e black and &s;carrified ones?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>They are <HI>Souldiers</HI> and <HI>Captains</HI> who bravely died in <HI>Warfare</HI> for me, and the <HI>Church;</HI> &s;ome at the &s;iege of <HI>Bononia,</HI> more in the <HI>War</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Veneti|ans,</HI> and mo&s;t at <HI>Ravenna,</HI> to all which <HI>Heaven</HI> is due by <HI>Covenant:</HI> for long ago I by large <HI>Bulls</HI> promi&s;ed they &s;hould go directly to <HI>Heaven</HI> whoever lo&s;t their lives <HI>fighting</HI> for the <HI>cau&s;e</HI> and <HI>&s;ervice</HI> of <HI>Julius.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I gue&s;s then the&s;e to be them who were often trouble&s;ome to me before your coming hither, (only they did not endeavour to force their entrance) but &s;hewed &s;ome leaden <HI>Bulls.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Then you did not admit them for ought I hear?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Admit them? no &s;ure, nor any of tho&s;e kind of People; for &s;o <HI>Christ</HI> taught me that the&s;e <HI>Gates</HI> were not to be opened to tho&s;e who brought great
<PB N="14" REF="8">Leaden Seals, but tho&s;e who had <HI>cloath'd</HI> the <HI>Naked, fed</HI> the <HI>Hungry,</HI> given <HI>drink</HI> to the <HI>Thir&s;ty, vi&s;ited</HI> the <HI>Captive,</HI> and <HI>lod<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">g</HI> the <HI>Stranger:</HI> for if he would have tho&s;e excluded who <HI>Prophe&s;ied in his Name, and in his Name cast out Devils, and did many wondrous works:</HI> Can&s;t thou think he would have tho&s;e admitted who only bring a <HI>Bull</HI> hither in the name of Pope <HI>Julius?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Had I but known it?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I under&s;tand you; if any of them had come from Hell and told it you, you would have declared War again&s;t me.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes, and have Excommunicated you too.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But to proceed: Why are you arm'd your &s;elf?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>As though you knew not that two Swords be|longed to the <HI>Pope,</HI> or would you go to War naked?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Indeed when I &s;at in that place I knew of no <HI>Sword,</HI> unle&s;s it were the <HI>Sword of the Spirit,</HI> which is <HI>the Word of God.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Malchus</HI> did not preach the &s;ame Doctrine who&s;e eare po&s;&s;ibly you cut off without a Sword.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I remember, and confe&s;s it; but then I fought for my <HI>Ma&s;ter Christ,</HI> not for <HI>my &s;elf:</HI> for the Life of my <HI>Lord,</HI> not for <HI>money,</HI> or <HI>&s;ecular power;</HI> nor fought I then as <HI>high Priest,</HI> the Keyes being only <HI>pro|mi&s;ed,</HI> not <HI>given:</HI> nor had I <HI>received</HI> the <HI>Holy Ghost,</HI> and yet I was <HI>commanded</HI> to put up my Sword; that he might publickly <HI>admoni&s;h</HI> this kind of <HI>fighting</HI> was not fit for <HI>Priests,</HI> no not for <HI>Chri&s;tians.</HI> But again, Why do&s;t thou &s;o <HI>gloriou&s;ly</HI> boa&s;t hy &s;elf a <HI>Lygurian?</HI> as if it were any thing pertinent to <HI>Christ's Vicar</HI> what People he was derived from.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes, I e&s;teem it an act of great Piety to <HI>en|noble</HI>
<PB N="15" REF="8">my Nation, and therefore have <HI>in&s;cribed</HI> this title on my <HI>Money, Statues, Walls,</HI> and <HI>Arches.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Then you know your Country, though you did not know your Father. At fir&s;t I thought thou would&s;t have talked of the Country of the Heavenly <HI>Jeru&s;alem</HI> and of the <HI>Faithful,</HI> and of its only <HI>Prince</HI> whom they de&s;ire to <HI>Sanctifie,</HI> that is, to <HI>prai&s;e his Name.</HI> But why do&s;t thou add <HI>Nephew</HI> by the <HI>Si&s;ter</HI> to <HI>Sixtus,</HI> a man I wonder &s;hould never come hither, e&s;pecially having been <HI>Pope,</HI> and Allyed to &s;o great a Captain as thou art. Therefore pray tell me what manner of man he was? Was he a Prie&s;t?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Ay, and a <HI>brave Souldier</HI> be&s;ides, of a &s;trict <HI>Re|ligious</HI> Order, to wit, a <HI>Franci&s;can.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Indeed I knew among the <HI>Laicks</HI> a very good man called <HI>Francis,</HI> a pious <HI>contemner</HI> of <HI>riches, plea&s;ures,</HI> and <HI>ambition:</HI> has that <HI>poor</HI> man now &s;uch <HI>Lordly</HI> followers?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>You, as far as I can <HI>perceive,</HI> would have no|thing <HI>improve</HI> or grow better. He was <HI>poor</HI> and <HI>ble&s;&s;ed,</HI> and now his followers are &s;o <HI>rich,</HI> that even we <HI>envy</HI> them.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P><HI>'Tis well.</HI> But to return where we were; Why <HI>Nephew</HI> to <HI>Sixtus?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I'le a&s;&s;ure you that's done very advi&s;edly to <HI>&s;top</HI> the mouths of tho&s;e <HI>affirm</HI> me to be his <HI>Son,</HI> and talk it a little too <HI>freely.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Freely,</HI> and is it not <HI>as truly?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But that <HI>&s;uits</HI> not with the <HI>honour</HI> of the <HI>Papa|cy,</HI> to which alwayes <HI>re&s;pect</HI> &s;hould be had.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>It would have the be&s;t <HI>re&s;pect</HI> and <HI>care</HI> of its own <HI>honour</HI> and <HI>dignity,</HI> if it <HI>admitted</HI> nothing might fall under <HI>just reproach;</HI> but let me <HI>conjure</HI> you by the <HI>Pa|pal
<PB N="16" REF="9">Maje&s;ty</HI> to tell me truly, whether this be the <HI>&s;olemn</HI> and <HI>common</HI> way of coming to the <HI>Popedom</HI> which you have now &s;et forth?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>For &s;ome <HI>Ages</HI> pa&s;t there hath been no other, unle&s;s he that is to &s;ucceed me do po&s;&s;ibly <HI>create</HI> a new one: For I was no &s;ooner got into the <HI>Chair,</HI> but I &s;treight publi&s;hed a <HI>formidable <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="2 letters">ll,</HI> forbidding all at|tempts of arriving at that <HI>Seat</HI> by tho&s;e means: which <HI>Bull</HI> a little before my death I renewed. Of what force it <HI>proves,</HI> others will &s;ee.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I believe none could better <HI>de&s;cribe</HI> that <HI>mi&s;chief</HI> then your &s;elf: but I wonder there &s;hould be any would accept the <HI>gift</HI> of it, &s;ince it is <HI>obnoxious</HI> to &s;uch cares, and with &s;uch difficulty to be <HI>&s;trugled</HI> for. I &s;hould rather think <HI>Pontifical</HI> power &s;hould &s;carce <HI>com|pel</HI> any to <HI>undertake</HI> the office of <HI>Presbyter</HI> or <HI>Deacon.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I <HI>wonder</HI> not at <HI>you,</HI> for in <HI>your</HI> times the <HI>Re|veuue</HI> and <HI>Reward</HI> of <HI>Bi&s;hops</HI> was nothing but <HI>labours, watchings, fa&s;tings, preaching,</HI> and oftentimes <HI>death.</HI> Now 'tis <HI>Empire</HI> and <HI>Tyranny,</HI> and who for a <HI>Kingdom,</HI> when there was hopes of it, would not <HI>venture</HI> to die?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Well &s;aid: But for <HI>Bononia,</HI> was it <HI>departed</HI> from the <HI>Faith</HI> that it was to be <HI>re&s;tored</HI> to the <HI>Roman Church?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No, no; there was no &s;uch thing in it.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Perhaps the <HI>Bentivolii</HI> by their ill <HI>admini|&s;tration</HI> ruined the <HI>Commonwealth.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Rather that City <HI>flouri&s;hed</HI> and <HI>increa&s;ed</HI> under them with large and &s;tately Buildings, which made it the more greedily <HI>thir&s;ted</HI> after.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I under&s;tand you; they had then <HI>wrong|fully</HI> invaded it.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Not &s;o neither, they po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ed it by <HI>Covenant.</HI></P>
</SP>
<PB N="17" REF="9">
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>The <HI>Citizens</HI> then <HI>endured</HI> not him for their <HI>Prince.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Rather they <HI>doted</HI> on him, and univer&s;ally <HI>ha|ted</HI> me.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What could then be the cau&s;e?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Becau&s;e he &s;o <HI>governed,</HI> that out of the <HI>vast</HI> &s;ums he gathered from the Citizens, &s;carce a <HI>few</HI> thou|&s;ands returned to our <HI>Trea&s;ury.</HI> Be&s;ides, it was <HI>conve|nient</HI> for advance of other matters I had then plotted: therefore the <HI>French</HI> labouring in the bu&s;ine&s;s, and o|thers <HI>affrighted</HI> with my <HI>thunder-bolts; Bentivolio</HI> driven out, I placed <HI>Cardinals</HI> and <HI>Bi&s;hops</HI> over the City, that the whole <HI>benefit</HI> might accrue to the <HI>Roman Church.</HI> Be&s;ides, whereas whil&s;t in their <HI>Po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ion</HI> there was to be &s;een nothing but the <HI>Imperial</HI> Titles and Arms: Now our <HI>Statues</HI> were every where to be &s;een, our <HI>Titles</HI> read, and our <HI>Trophies</HI> adored. Everywhere now &s;tands a <HI>Bra&s;s</HI> or <HI>Marble</HI> Julius. La&s;tly, had you beheld with what <HI>Royal</HI> Triump<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> I entred into <HI>Bononia,</HI> you would perhaps have <HI>contemned</HI> all the triumphs of the <HI>Scipio's</HI> and <HI>Octavius,</HI> and have thought it was not without cau&s;e I fought &s;o <HI>&s;turdily</HI> for <HI>Bononia;</HI> nay, then would you have &s;een at the &s;ame time the Church <HI>Militant</HI> and <HI>Triumphant.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>'Twas then in your dayes, I perceive, that happened, which <HI>Christ</HI> has commanded us to pray, <HI>Thy Kingdom come.</HI> But the <HI>Venetians</HI> what had they done?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>They began to follow the <HI>Gre k's</HI> example, making only a <HI>laughing-&s;tock</HI> of me, and ca&s;ting on me all <HI>reproaches</HI> imaginable.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Were they true or fal&s;e?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What's that to the purpo&s;e? 'Tis <HI>Sacriledge</HI>
<PB N="18" REF="10">to <HI>whi&s;per</HI> any thing of the <HI>Pope</HI> of <HI>Rome</HI> unle&s;s in his <HI>prai&s;e.</HI> Then they di&s;po&s;ed <HI>Benefices</HI> as they plea&s;ed, no <HI>Centrover&s;ies</HI> were <HI>transferred</HI> to me, no <HI>Di&s;pen&s;ati|ons traffick<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">d</HI> for; what need I &s;ay more? They <HI>afflicted</HI> the See of <HI>Rome</HI> with intolerable <HI>damage,</HI> by <HI>u&s;urping</HI> no &s;mall part of <HI>thy Patrimony.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>My Patrimony? Prithee what do'&s;t talk of my <HI>Patrimony?</HI> who for&s;aking all, <HI>naked,</HI> followed <HI>naked Christ.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I mean certain Towns belonging to the See of <HI>Rome,</HI> for &s;o it plea&s;ed the Holy Fathers to call a <HI>pecu|liar</HI> part of their Po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ions.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>You con&s;ulted my infamy with your own gain: but is it this you call <HI>intolerable</HI> damage?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What el&s;e?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But were their Manners corrupt? or was Piety grown cold?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Pi&s;h: thou talk'&s;t of <HI>trifles:</HI> I'le tell you they cheated us of an <HI>infinite</HI> thou&s;ands of Duckets: which would have maintained &s;ome <HI>legions</HI> of Souldiers.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>A <HI>dreadful</HI> damage indeed to an U&s;urer: But what was <HI>Ferrara</HI>'s fault?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>His? He was the mo&s;t <HI>ungrateful</HI> of all man|kind? Pope <HI>Alexander</HI> the <HI>Vicar</HI> of <HI>Christ</HI> had &s;o much re&s;pect for him, that he gave him his younger <HI>Daughter</HI> in marriage, adding by way of Dower a rich and plen|tiful Juri&s;diction to a fal&s;e-hearted man, who forgetful of &s;o much <HI>humanity</HI> and <HI>kindne&s;s</HI> was continually <HI>bark|ing</HI> again&s;t me for <HI>Simony</HI> and <HI>Buggery:</HI> &s;ome <HI>Sub&s;idies</HI> and <HI>Tolls</HI> likewi&s;e he laid claim to; but that was not much, but yet too much to be neglected by a <HI>careful</HI> Pa&s;tor.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>(<HI>Gen.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Ay, that was &s;uch a trader)</P>
</SP>
<PB N="19" REF="10">
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But to make &s;hort the &s;tory, It was very <HI>ne|ce&s;&s;ary</HI> to the bu&s;ine&s;s I had in hand, to joyn this <HI>Domi|nion</HI> to ours, by rea&s;on of the conveniency of its &s;citua|tion, therefore I endeavoured by rai&s;ing this di&s;turb|ance to confer this Government on my Kin&s;man, a &s;tout Man, and ready to dare any thing for the Chur|ches &s;ake, as who lately with his own hand had for my &s;ake &s;lain Cardinal <HI>Papeias.</HI> For as for my <HI>Daughters</HI> Husband, he was content with his fortune.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What's this I hear? Have <HI>Popes Wives</HI> and <HI>Children?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Wives</HI> of their own indeed they have not, but what a mighty wonder is it if they have <HI>Children,</HI> &s;ince they are <HI>Men</HI> and not <HI>Eunuchs.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But that <HI>Schi&s;matical Cabal,</HI> what were they doing?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>It would be too long to repeat that &s;tory from the beginning. I'le mak't as &s;hort as I can. The <HI>Court of Rome</HI> began to be <HI>&s;candalous</HI> to many, they reported it every where <HI>defiled</HI> with <HI>Markets</HI> and <HI>Fairs</HI> of <HI>filthy lucre, prodigious</HI> and <HI>abominable lu&s;ts, witchcrafts, &s;acri|ledges, murders</HI> and <HI>&s;imony;</HI> me they declared a <HI>Simoniac, drunkard, &s;wine, covetous wretch,</HI> and every way <HI>unwor|thy</HI> of that place, which I held to the <HI>dammage</HI> of the whole <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> Religion; therefore a <HI>generall Council</HI> was to be called to <HI>redre&s;s</HI> the&s;e <HI>grievances;</HI> they al|ledged that I had <HI>&s;worn</HI> upon my taking on me this <HI>ho|nour,</HI> that within two years I would call a <HI>Council,</HI> upon which <HI>condition</HI> only I was created Pope.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>And was not that true?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes very true: but as &s;oon as I &s;aw fitting, I <HI>ab&s;olved</HI> my &s;elf of that <HI>Oath;</HI> or if I had not, who would have &s;tuck at alittle <HI>perjury</HI> when a <HI>Crown</HI> was at
<PB N="20" REF="11" MS="y"><HI>&s;take?</HI> In other things indeed <HI>Piety</HI> may be <HI>regarded,</HI> as another <HI>Julius,</HI> my &s;econd &s;elf, elegantly &s;aid. But &s;ee the <HI>impudence</HI> of the&s;e men, and whither it arrived; N<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">ne <HI>Cardinals</HI> revolt from me, <HI>&s;ummon</HI> a Council, <HI>in|vite</HI> and <HI>intreat</HI> me to Prae&s;ide it; which when they could not <HI>obtain</HI> they <HI>declare Maximilian</HI> as Emperour, (Hi&s;tories te&s;tifying that Councils of old u&s;ed to be &s;ummoned by the <HI>Roman</HI> Emperours) and <HI>Lewis</HI> the 12th of <HI>France</HI> Heads of it. I <HI>tremble</HI> in the <HI>repeating</HI> it: Thus they rend in pieces the <HI>&s;eamle&s;s</HI> Coat of Chri&s;t which even his <HI>Crucifiers</HI> left whole.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But wert thou &s;uch a one as they repre&s;en|ted thee?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What's that to the purpo&s;e? <HI>Paint</HI> me more wicked then the <HI>Cyclops,</HI> more <HI>fooli&s;h</HI> then <HI>Morychus,</HI> more <HI>unlearned</HI> and <HI>blocki&s;h</HI> then a <HI>Stock,</HI> and more <HI>de|formed</HI> and <HI>filthy</HI> then a <HI>Toad:</HI> Whoever holds once this <HI>Key</HI> of <HI>Power,</HI> ought to be <HI>reverenced</HI> as <HI>Chri&s;t's Vicar,</HI> and reputed as <HI>Most Holy?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What! though he be <HI>openly</HI> wicked?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Ay, never &s;o <HI>openly,</HI> for it is not to be endured that he who acts here in <HI>God</HI>'s &s;tead, and &s;hould be e|&s;teemed as a <HI>God</HI> among <HI>Men</HI> &s;hould be <HI>&s;ubject</HI> to the <HI>reproofs</HI> of every idle fellow, or <HI>expo&s;ed</HI> to every ones <HI>re|proaches?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But it is <HI>oppo&s;ite</HI> to common <HI>&s;en&s;e,</HI> to think <HI>well</HI> of that which we <HI>apparently</HI> behold to be <HI>evil;</HI> or to &s;peak <HI>well</HI> of that which we think to be <HI>wicked.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Let every one <HI>think</HI> what they plea&s;e, but let them take care to &s;peak <HI>well,</HI> or el&s;e hold their tongues; for the <HI>Pope of Rome</HI> is not to be <HI>reproved,</HI> no not by a <HI>General Council.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>One thing I know, that whoever pretends
<PB N="21" REF="11" MS="y">to &s;upply Chri&s;t's place upon Earth, ought to be as <HI>like him</HI> as he can, and &s;o lead his life that it be <HI>un|blameable,</HI> and that none can <HI>ju&s;tly</HI> &s;peak ill of him: but &s;urely tho&s;e Popes are but in an evil ca&s;e, who mu&s;t be beholding to <HI>threatnings,</HI> rather then <HI>good actions,</HI> for mens good words, and who&s;e greate&s;t <HI>glory</HI> is, that they can <HI>compel</HI> men who <HI>think</HI> evil of them to <HI>&s;ilence:</HI> But an&s;wer me one thing; Is a <HI>wicked</HI> and <HI>pe&s;tilent</HI> Pope no way to be <HI>removed?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Ridiculous!</HI> By whom &s;hould he be <HI>removed,</HI> who is the <HI>highe&s;t?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>For that rea&s;on he ought the <HI>rather</HI> to be <HI>re|moved,</HI> becau&s;e the <HI>highest,</HI> for the <HI>higher</HI> he is, if he be <HI>evil,</HI> the more <HI>pernicious</HI> he is; but you, <HI>Julius,</HI> make a much more happy <HI>High Prie&s;t</HI> then Chri&s;t ever con&s;ti|tuted, who whil&s;t he thinks him&s;elf <HI>highe&s;t,</HI> quite for|gets that he is a Prie&s;t. And though really the <HI>worst</HI> of <HI>mankind,</HI> thinks he may lawfully, and unpuni&s;h't, be the <HI>worst;</HI> becau&s;e by title the <HI>greatest.</HI> A Prie&s;t &s;o much the <HI>highest</HI> by his title, that he claims and challenges the <HI>highest</HI> and <HI>&s;upreamest</HI> right (not without the <HI>ghest</HI> injury) over Kings who are truly &s;upream, and Em|perours who are the highe&s;t under God; and as if they were <HI>&s;ollicited</HI> and <HI>intreated</HI> to Reign by virtue of a <HI>forged</HI> and <HI>pretended Vicar&s;hip</HI> to <HI>Christ, u&s;urping</HI> a right fir&s;t to <HI>prohibit &s;acred</HI> and then <HI>temporal</HI> things, a right of <HI>di&s;pen&s;ing</HI> their Subjects from that <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Obedience</HI> due to them by God's own Command: In fine, a right of waging War again&s;t them for any <HI>light</HI> occa&s;ion (perhaps a wicked one) and pur&s;uing it after a <HI>Fonti|ficial</HI> manner, not to a <HI>Spiritual</HI> amendment of life, but to the taking away <HI>Temporal power.</HI> And in the mean time you grant this Pope by virtue of his <HI>highest</HI> place,
<PB N="22" REF="12">or (as you would rather perhaps have it expre&s;&s;ed) his <HI>Seat unmoveable by any mortal power</HI> (no not by the greate&s;t Kings or Emperours) a Power of violating all <HI>Rights</HI> not only <HI>Humane</HI> but <HI>Divine,</HI> and <HI>making</HI> a <HI>mixture,</HI> as one may &s;ay, of <HI>Heavenly</HI> and <HI>Earthly</HI> wickedne&s;s. Happy, <HI>Julius,</HI> was it for the <HI>World</HI> that <HI>Death</HI> at length had this right over thee, (and I believe thou <HI>blamest</HI> it too for acting too <HI>tyrannically</HI>) which thou &s;o &s;tiffly denie&s;t to all other mortals: But was it thus <HI>ordained</HI> by <HI>Christ,</HI> or is the <HI>Church</HI>'s advantage &s;o to be provided for, that its life and &s;afety mu&s;t be <HI>re|po&s;ed</HI> in the death of &s;uch an <HI>High Prie&s;t?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>But if the <HI>Pope of Rome</HI> be to be <HI>Reformed,</HI> it mu&s;t be done by a <HI>Council,</HI> now no <HI>Council</HI> can be called without the <HI>Pope</HI>'s con&s;ent, otherwi&s;e 'tis a <HI>Cabal</HI> and no <HI>Council.</HI> Or when it is called, it can <HI>decree</HI> nothing which the Pope <HI>oppo&s;es;</HI> for in him is the chief Pre&s;i|dency and ab&s;olute Power, &s;o that the <HI>Pope</HI> alone is much <HI>Superiour</HI> to any General Council, and from his <HI>Office</HI> he cannot be removed for any <HI>crime</HI> what&s;oever.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Murder?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Parricide.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Fornication?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>That's a toy. I tell you not for <HI>Incest?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Simonaical</HI> Impiety?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>&s;ix</HI> hundred.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Witchcraft?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No, nor for <HI>Sacriledge.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for <HI>Bla&s;phemy?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No I &s;ay.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Not for all the&s;e together, drawn up into one <HI>ma&s;s</HI> of mi&s;chiefs?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Add if you will to the&s;e the Names of &s;ix
<PB N="23" REF="12">hundred <HI>crimes</HI> yet more filthy then tho&s;e, yet could not a <HI>Pope</HI> for all tho&s;e be removed from the <HI>Papacy.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Indeed, <HI>Julius,</HI> you &s;eem to have a very ho|nourable opinion of General Councils (as above Kings and Emperours) but you only &s;eem to have &s;o: for you do not unwillingly approve that Councils of old were as Colledges of Phy&s;icians, to who&s;e care the Cure of the Church, when indi&s;po&s;ed, was to be com|mitted: But at this day they are rarely called to that end, or you indeed can &s;carce be brought to endure they &s;hould be, but the <HI>Head</HI> (for &s;o you love to call it) though it be not in very <HI>good health;</HI> nay, though that <HI>Head</HI> be &s;o <HI>infected</HI> that it may <HI>de&s;ervedly</HI> be accounted the common <HI>di&s;ea&s;e</HI> and <HI>plague</HI> of the Church; yet that <HI>polluted Head,</HI> though <HI>de&s;erving</HI> to be <HI>cut off,</HI> or <HI>removed,</HI> is not at all in your judgment to be &s;ubmitted to the <HI>cen&s;ure</HI> of an <HI>Occumenical</HI> Council which are (as it were) <HI>Repre&s;entatives</HI> of the Church?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yet there is one thing for which &s;ome are of <HI>opinion</HI> he may be <HI>removed.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>For what good act mu&s;t that be? For a crime it cannot be, &s;ince it cannot be for tho&s;e I have before named?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>For the crime of <HI>Here&s;ie,</HI> &s;o he be publickly con|victed of it: but that's <HI>frivolous</HI> too, nor do's not a tittle derogate from the <HI>Papal</HI> Maje&s;ty; for in the fir&s;t place he may <HI>abrogate</HI> that Law if it <HI>di&s;plea&s;e</HI> him; then again, who dares <HI>impeach</HI> the <HI>Pope of Rome,</HI> encom|pa&s;&s;ed with &s;o many <HI>Guards?</HI> be&s;ides if he be pre&s;t hard to call a Council, the <HI>Recantation</HI> is ea&s;ie, if he cannot deny &s;ummoning them. And la&s;tly there are a thou&s;and <HI>&s;tarting-holes</HI> for him to &s;lip out of, if he be a <HI>Man</HI> and not a <HI>Block.</HI></P>
</SP>
<PB N="24" REF="13">
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But tell me by thy <HI>Pontifical</HI> Power, who E&s;tabli&s;hed the&s;e Excellent Laws?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Who &s;hould but the <HI>Fountain</HI> of all Laws, the Pope of <HI>Rome,</HI> and it belongs to him to <HI>repeal, inter|pret, explain, &s;treighten</HI> or <HI>enlarge</HI> any Law as &s;hall be mo&s;t for his advantage.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Happy were the <HI>Pope</HI> could he make a Law to <HI>deceive Christ</HI> and <HI>Heaven</HI> as well as he can a <HI>Council.</HI> But indeed again&s;t &s;uch a <HI>Pope</HI> as thou ha&s;t now <HI>de|&s;cribed,</HI> &s;uch an <HI>open wicked Wretch,</HI> &s;uch a <HI>Drunkard, Murderer, Simoniac, Sorcerer, P<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">rju<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">er, Ravenous</HI> and <HI>prodigious Villain,</HI> everywhere <HI>&s;tained</HI> over and <HI>defiled</HI> with all kinds of <HI>Lust,</HI> not &s;o much a <HI>General Council</HI> were to be wi&s;hed, as a <HI>furious</HI> People arm'd with <HI>&s;tones,</HI> that &s;o publick a <HI>plague</HI> of the World might as <HI>publick|ly</HI> be taken out of it. But tell me what's the rea&s;on, why the Popes of <HI>Rome</HI> &s;o much abhor <HI>General Coun|cils?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Becau&s;e &s;uch a company of <HI>Excellent</HI> Men do not alittle <HI>ob&s;cure</HI> the <HI>Papal</HI> dignity, where the <HI>Learned</HI> bring <HI>boldne&s;s</HI> and <HI>confidence</HI> along with them; the <HI>Good</HI> &s;pur'd by their Con&s;ciences, &s;peak things <HI>more freely</HI> than is <HI>expedient</HI> for us: Tho&s;e who have any <HI>worth</HI> or <HI>power</HI> will u&s;e their <HI>Authority,</HI> and &s;ome will be mixed among the&s;e <HI>Envious</HI> of our <HI>Glory,</HI> and come thither with <HI>prepared</HI> thoughts to <HI>le&s;&s;en</HI> the <HI>Papal</HI> Power and Authority: In &s;hort, not one &s;its here but thinks he may <HI>a&s;&s;ume</HI> an Authority from the <HI>Council</HI> to &s;ay &s;ome|what again&s;t the <HI>Pope,</HI> whence it comes to pa&s;s that ne|ver <HI>Council</HI> ended &s;o happily, but that the <HI>Pope</HI> ran &s;ome hazard of his <HI>Maje&s;ty,</HI> or felt his <HI>Greatne&s;s</HI> decline. Of which you your &s;elf may be a <HI>witne&s;s,</HI> unle&s;s you have <HI>forgot</HI> it; for though then the Di&s;pute was only con|cerning
<PB N="25" REF="13"><HI>light</HI> matters, not <HI>Empire</HI> and <HI>Royalty</HI> as now; yet. <HI>James</HI> was bold to add no &s;mall matter to what you had &s;et down; For when you ab&s;olutely <HI>freed</HI> the <HI>Gentiles</HI> from the <HI>yoke</HI> of the <HI>Mo&s;aical</HI> Law. <HI>James</HI> &s;ucceeding, excepted <HI>Fornication</HI> and <HI>Blood,</HI> and things <HI>offered to Idols,</HI> as if he would <HI>correct</HI> your <HI>Decree;</HI> &s;o that there are at this day, who <HI>think</HI> (moved to it by this pa&s;&s;age) that the chief <HI>Pontifical</HI> Power was in <HI>James,</HI> and not in you.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Then thou thinke&s;t that nothing is to be ta|ken care of, but the Pre&s;ervation of the <HI>Papal</HI> Maje&s;ty, as if the Publick &s;afety of the Church were not more nece&s;&s;ary to be looked after.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Let every one mind their own <HI>advantage,</HI> we look after that which mo&s;t <HI>concerns</HI> us.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But if Chri&s;t had done the &s;ame, That <HI>Church</HI> had not now been which thou boa&s;ts thy &s;elf <HI>Monarch</HI> over, nor can I &s;ee how it agrees with him that calls him&s;elf the <HI>Vicar of Christ,</HI> to act things <HI>contrary</HI> to <HI>Christ.</HI> But pray proceed, by what art did you da&s;h in pieces that <HI>&s;chi&s;matical Council,</HI> as you call it?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I le tell it you truly; conceive it if you can. In the fir&s;t place the Emperour <HI>Maximilian</HI> (for &s;o he is called) being one of the ea&s;ie&s;t men alive, though by &s;olemn Nuntio's he &s;ummon'd the Council, yet I found &s;ly and un&s;peakable ways to remove him from his purpo&s;e. Be&s;ides, by the like arts, I per&s;waded &s;ome <HI>Cardinals</HI> that &s;ome In&s;truments they had already de|creed and publi&s;hed, calling again the Notaries and Witne&s;&s;es, they &s;hould as publickly deny.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But was this <HI>lawful?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What is not <HI>lawful</HI> when the <HI>Pope</HI> approves it? who, when he plea&s;es, may make <HI>&s;wearing</HI> no <HI>&s;wearing,</HI>
<PB N="26" REF="14">as being capable of <HI>ab&s;olving</HI> all Oaths. But indeed to &s;peak ingeniou&s;ly, this was &s;omewhat an <HI>impudent</HI> trick, but nothing more to my purpo&s;e then pre&s;ented it &s;elf. Thereupon when I &s;aw how things were like to be, that I &s;hould contract the envie of the <HI>Council,</HI> e|&s;pecially &s;o <HI>&s;ummoned,</HI> to the end I might not be ex|cluded, but humbly <HI>be&s;ought</HI> and de&s;ired to <HI>prae&s;ide</HI> in it; &s;ee what a <HI>Web</HI> I <HI>wove</HI> following my <HI>Predece&s;&s;ors</HI> Ex|ample. I took my turn to ha&s;ten the <HI>meeting</HI> of the Council, finding fault that neither the <HI>time</HI> nor <HI>place</HI> by them appointed, was <HI>fitting</HI> or <HI>convenient.</HI> I there|fore immediately <HI>&s;ummoned</HI> a Council to <HI>Rome,</HI> whe|ther I thought none would <HI>venture</HI> to come, who were not friends to <HI>Julius,</HI> and would &s;econd at lea&s;t, if not wholly obey him; to which purpo&s;e I drew them by many Examples, and created for that end many new <HI>Cardinals</HI> in all things fitted to my de&s;igns.</P>
</SP>
<STAGE>(<HI>Gen.</HI> That is mo&s;t <HI>villanous</HI> ones)</STAGE>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Again, this <HI>Council</HI> if I had not <HI>&s;ummoned</HI> it had not been a <HI>Council,</HI> and yet it was utterly <HI>unexpe|dient</HI> to my Affairs, that &s;uch a <HI>croud</HI> of <HI>Bi&s;hops</HI> and <HI>Abbots</HI> &s;hould flock to <HI>Rome,</HI> among whom it was impo&s;|&s;ible, but that &s;ome mu&s;t be <HI>Pious</HI> and <HI>honest:</HI> Therefore I advi&s;ed, that for the &s;aving of charges, they &s;hould only &s;end one or more from each Province; and when at length this &s;eemed none of the &s;afe&s;t cour&s;es, a few out of &s;o many Provinces amounting to a great num|ber, even when they were now ready for the Journey, I <HI>forbid</HI> their coming, <HI>proroguing</HI> the Council to a fur|ther day, and giving <HI>&s;ufficient</HI> and <HI>probable</HI> rea&s;ons for it. And by the&s;e arts, univer&s;ally excluding tho&s;e I doubted again giving notice of the day I had fir&s;t pre|&s;cribed, <HI>In&s;tituted</HI> a Council at <HI>Rome,</HI> con&s;i&s;ting only of
<PB N="27" REF="14">tho&s;e before by me prepared. Among which, though &s;ome <HI>Di&s;&s;enters</HI> might appear, yet I was <HI>confident</HI> none dur&s;t make <HI>open re&s;i&s;tance</HI> again&s;t <HI>Julius,</HI> &s;o powerful in Guards and Forces. Now by this means I &s;tirr'd up <HI>mighty</HI> envie in that <HI>French</HI> Council, &s;ending away &s;e|veral Letters, in which I made mention of our <HI>mo&s;t holy Council,</HI> execrating and cur&s;ing that Council of theirs, and thereupon naming it a <HI>Conventicle of Satans,</HI> a <HI>Ca|ball of the Devil,</HI> and a <HI>Schi&s;matical Con&s;piracy.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Certainly tho&s;e <HI>Cardinals</HI> mu&s;t in your judgment be very wretches, who were <HI>authors</HI> and <HI>chiefs</HI> of that Council.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I never enquire after <HI>manners;</HI> but the prime <HI>manager</HI> of this bu&s;ine&s;s was the Bi&s;hop of <HI>Rheims,</HI> who guided by I know not what <HI>holine&s;s,</HI> alwayes took care of <HI>reforming</HI> the Church, which he did in &s;everal places; but him death <HI>&s;natcht</HI> away, doing me a very <HI>grateful</HI> office. To him &s;ucceeded the <HI>Cardinal</HI> of <HI>Sancta Cruz</HI> a <HI>Spaniard,</HI> of an unblameable life, but a moro&s;e old Man, and a Divine: which &s;ort of men u&s;ed often to be trouble&s;ome to the <HI>Popes of Rome.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But a <HI>Divine</HI> could have no probable pre|tence to cover his <HI>de&s;ign.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes many, he alledged the <HI>times</HI> were never more <HI>unquiet,</HI> that the <HI>Church</HI> never <HI>groan'd</HI> under more <HI>intolerable</HI> di&s;tempers, which were to be <HI>remedied</HI> by a General Council. That when I was admitted to the <HI>Papacy,</HI> I had taken the <HI>Sacrament,</HI> that in my &s;econd year I would <HI>&s;ummon</HI> a General Council, and &s;o <HI>&s;ettle</HI> it, that I could not <HI>di&s;&s;olve</HI> it without <HI>con&s;ent</HI> of the <HI>Cardinals.</HI> In &s;hort, though often <HI>admoni&s;hed</HI> by my Brother <HI>Cardinals, reque&s;ted</HI> and <HI>called</HI> upon by <HI>Princes,</HI> I li&s;tned to any thing rather then this, &s;o that it plainly
<PB N="28" REF="15">appeared, that while <HI>Julius</HI> was living no Council would be. They urged the <HI>Examples</HI> of former Coun|cils, <HI>cited</HI> &s;everal <HI>Papal</HI> Laws, by which it <HI>appeared</HI> that when I or mine <HI>waved,</HI> calling a Council, the <HI>right</HI> de|volv'd to them, and that other <HI>Princes</HI> conniving, the gift of Summoning appertained to the <HI>Roman</HI> Emper|our, who formerly alone <HI>cited</HI> all Councils, and to the <HI>French</HI> King as the next Sovereign.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Did they not then write &s;currilous things again&s;t you?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No, the Ra&s;cals under&s;tood things better then I would have had them; This <HI>hateful</HI> matter they ma|naged with a wonderful <HI>mode&s;ty,</HI> for they not only for|bore <HI>revilings,</HI> but never named me but with an <HI>Honora|tory</HI> Preamble, <HI>be&s;eeching</HI> and <HI>conjuring</HI> me by all things <HI>Sacred</HI> and <HI>Pious,</HI> that as a thing only worthy of me, and as a thing I had <HI>&s;worn,</HI> I would <HI>&s;ummon</HI> and <HI>prae&s;ide</HI> in a General Council, and <HI>apply</HI> my &s;elf with them to <HI>heal</HI> the <HI>di&s;tempers</HI> of the Church: Nor can I tell you with what <HI>envy</HI> I looked upon this <HI>temperance</HI> of theirs, e&s;pecially &s;ince they founded all things upon the <HI>Holy</HI> Scriptures, it being apparent &s;everal Learned Men were &s;et apart for that end, whil&s;t in the mean time they added, <HI>fa&s;tings, prayers,</HI> and an admirable <HI>frugality</HI> of life, that they might the better <HI>urge</HI> me with an opinion of their <HI>holine&s;s.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>On the other hand, under what pretence did&s;t thou <HI>&s;ummon</HI> a Council?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Under a much more <HI>&s;plendid</HI> one; I pretended that it was my de&s;ire fir&s;t, to <HI>Reform</HI> the Head of the Church, that is <HI>my &s;elf;</HI> then <HI>Kings</HI> and <HI>Princes;</HI> and la&s;tly, the whole <HI>body</HI> of the <HI>People.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>'Tis a fine <HI>Comedy</HI> this, but I expect the
<PB N="29" REF="15"><HI>i&s;&s;ue;</HI> pray let me hear what tho&s;e Divines decreed in that <HI>Satanical Cabal?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Such <HI>unworthy</HI> and <HI>abominable</HI> things as my Soul <HI>detests</HI> the very memory of.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Were they &s;o <HI>horrible</HI> wicked?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Altogether <HI>impious, &s;acrilegious,</HI> and wor&s;e then <HI>heretical,</HI> which unle&s;s I had trampled on with <HI>hands</HI> and <HI>feet,</HI> and oppo&s;ed both with <HI>art</HI> and <HI>arms,</HI> gone had been the <HI>glory</HI> and <HI>dignity</HI> of the <HI>Roman</HI> Church.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>This makes me more de&s;irous to know what tho&s;e things were.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Oh! I abhor the relation of them. The&s;e <HI>wretches</HI> attempted to <HI>reduce</HI> the Church now <HI>flouri&s;hing</HI> with &s;o much <HI>riches</HI> and <HI>dominion</HI> to its old <HI>rags</HI> and mi&s;erable <HI>frugality;</HI> That <HI>Cardinals</HI> who now with noi&s;e and &s;plendor exceeded &s;ome <HI>Tyrants</HI> in their manner of living, &s;hould be confined to a life of Poverty; That <HI>Bi&s;hops</HI> would live after a more moderate rate, with &s;maller trains, equipage, and hor&s;es: They decreed, That <HI>Cardinals</HI> &s;hould not in all places <HI>&s;wallow</HI> up whole <HI>Bi&s;hopricks, Abbies,</HI> and <HI>Benefices,</HI> and that none &s;hould have more then one <HI>Bi&s;hoprick,</HI> and that tho&s;e who right or wrong (as they &s;aid) heaped up to them&s;elves (if they could) &s;ix hundred Benefices, they thought fit &s;hould be <HI>compelled</HI> to be <HI>content</HI> with &s;uch <HI>allowance</HI> as was fit for a <HI>frugal</HI> Prie&s;t: That none &s;hould be crea|ted <HI>Pope,</HI> or <HI>Bi&s;hop,</HI> or <HI>Prie&s;t</HI> by <HI>bribery,</HI> or <HI>&s;imony,</HI> or through <HI>favour</HI> or ba&s;e <HI>compliance,</HI> but only for the <HI>me|rits</HI> and <HI>example</HI> of his life, and that if it were found otherwi&s;e, he &s;hould thence be <HI>removed:</HI> That it &s;hould be lawful to <HI>degrade</HI> the <HI>Pope</HI> for open wickedne&s;s; And that Bi&s;hops, either <HI>Whorema&s;ters</HI> or <HI>Drunkards,</HI> &s;hould be deprived; And <HI>Prie&s;ts</HI> openly <HI>&s;candalous,</HI> not only
<PB N="30" REF="16"><HI>removed</HI> from the Prie&s;thood, but puni&s;hed with <HI>muti|lation</HI> of members; With many other things of that kind, for it troubles me to think of all which did whol|ly <HI>tend</HI> to this, to <HI>load</HI> and <HI>burthen</HI> us with a <HI>demure Sanctity,</HI> and rob and &s;poil us of <HI>riches</HI> and <HI>Empire.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Therefore what did you decree again&s;t the&s;e things in your <HI>most holy Roman</HI> Council?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>you &s;eem to have forgot what I told you: That I had no other <HI>de&s;ign</HI> in that Council but to <HI>drive</HI> out a <HI>nail</HI> with a <HI>nail.</HI> The fir&s;t Meeting was &s;pent in cer|tain <HI>&s;olemn</HI> Ceremonies, which for Authority &s;ake we think fit yet to ob&s;erve, though not at all pertinent to the matter, where two <HI>Sanctions</HI> were u&s;ed, one of the <HI>holy Gro&s;s,</HI> and the other of the <HI>holy Spirit;</HI> as if by his <HI>guidance</HI> all things were there to be done, and then was recited an <HI>Oration</HI> full of my prai&s;es. In the next <HI>Se&s;&s;ions,</HI> with all the force I had, I <HI>flung</HI> out my <HI>thunder|bolts</HI> again&s;t tho&s;e <HI>&s;chi&s;matical Cardinals,</HI> pronouncing <HI>what&s;oever</HI> they had, or <HI>what&s;oever</HI> they were about to <HI>decree,</HI> more then <HI>impious,</HI> more then <HI>&s;acrilegious,</HI> and wor&s;e then <HI>heretical.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>So that if by chance <HI>repenting</HI> they had <HI>de|clared</HI> you a <HI>good</HI> and <HI>excellent</HI> Pope, that had been mo&s;t <HI>impious</HI> and <HI>heretical?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Altogether, as founded on no <HI>rea&s;on</HI> nor <HI>Autho|rity:</HI></P>
</SP>
<STAGE>(Gen. Nothing truer.)</STAGE>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>For what did it concern them to decree what kind of Per&s;on the <HI>Pope of Rome</HI> &s;hould be? But to proceed, at the third <HI>Se&s;&s;ions,</HI> with the like <HI>fulminations</HI> I terrified <HI>France,</HI> removing the Marts from <HI>Lyons,</HI> and &s;ome other places by name excepted, thereby the more to <HI>alicnate</HI> the Subjects minds from the King, and &s;tir
<PB N="31" REF="16">up <HI>&s;edition</HI> among them; And that done that it might bear more <HI>Authority,</HI> I &s;ent <HI>authentick Bulls</HI> thereof to all <HI>Princes,</HI> e&s;pecially to tho&s;e whom I perceived mo&s;t <HI>inclined</HI> to our Faction.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>And was this all was done?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>All was done I de&s;ired; <HI>I overcame:</HI> &s;ince on|ly <HI>my Decrees</HI> prevailed. Tho&s;e three <HI>Cardinals</HI> that per&s;i&s;ted in their <HI>attempts,</HI> with publick <HI>Ceremonies</HI> I <HI>deprived</HI> of their <HI>Cardinal dignity,</HI> and <HI>conferr'd</HI> their <HI>Church-livings</HI> upon others, &s;o that they could hardly be <HI>re&s;tored, delivering</HI> them over to <HI>Satan,</HI> whom I would have rather <HI>delivered</HI> to the <HI>flames</HI> here, could I have got them into my clutches.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>And yet if thou telle&s;t truth, the <HI>Decrees</HI> of that <HI>&s;chi&s;matical Cabal</HI> &s;eem to have much more <HI>Sanctity</HI> in them then tho&s;e of thy <HI>most holy</HI> Council, from whence, as I can perceive, nothing <HI>i&s;&s;ued</HI> but <HI>tyran|nical threats, cur&s;es,</HI> and <HI>cruelty</HI> mix'd with <HI>craft.</HI> If <HI>Satan</HI> were the Author of that <HI>Cabal,</HI> His Spirit &s;eems nearer to approach <HI>Chri&s;t</HI>'s, then that &s;trange one <HI>mode|rated</HI> in your Council?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I tell you again and again, Have a care what you &s;ay, for in all my <HI>Bulls</HI> I have cur&s;ed all tho&s;e who &s;hall but &s;peak any thing in <HI>favour</HI> of that <HI>Cabal.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Wretch! how thou yet breath'&s;t forth the old <HI>Julius!</HI> But what was the i&s;&s;ue of this bu&s;ine&s;s?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I left it in the &s;tate you hear; how it will come off, Fortune mu&s;t decide.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Then the <HI>Schi&s;m</HI> yet continues?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>It continues and very dangerou&s;ly.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>And thou, though <HI>Chri&s;t's Vicar,</HI> had'&s;t ra|ther have a <HI>Schi&s;m,</HI> then a <HI>true Council?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>I had rather have three hundred <HI>Schi&s;ms</HI> then I
<PB N="32" REF="17">be <HI>compelled</HI> in my Authority, or forced to <HI>give an ac|count</HI> of my whole life.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Thou art &s;o <HI>con&s;cious</HI> of thy &s;elf.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What's that to thee?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I under&s;tand you; It was not expedient to remove that <HI>Conclave,</HI> but did you get the victory?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>That's in Fortunes hand. Though we have the more Money, for the <HI>French</HI> are Exhau&s;ted by con|tinual Wars. The <HI>Engli&s;h</HI> have yet Mountains of Gold untouch'd: This I can undoubtedly <HI>Prophecy,</HI> Should the <HI>French overcome,</HI> which I <HI>abhor</HI> thinking of, the very <HI>names</HI> of things would be <HI>changed,</HI> and that <HI>mo&s;t Holy</HI> Council be called <HI>Satan's Cabal,</HI> I no Pope, but the &s;hadow of one, and they be &s;aid onely to have acted by the <HI>Holy Spirit,</HI> and we done all things by the <HI>Spirit</HI> of the <HI>Devil:</HI> But I have great <HI>confidence</HI> that the <HI>Moneys</HI> I have left will <HI>prevent</HI> &s;uch di&s;a&s;ters.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>But what had you to &s;ay again&s;t the <HI>French</HI> and their King, him whom your Predece&s;&s;ors graced with the Title of mo&s;t <HI>Chri&s;tian,</HI> e&s;pecially &s;ince under their <HI>protection</HI> you both <HI>confe&s;s</HI> to have lived, and been <HI>rai&s;ed</HI> to that more then <HI>Imperial</HI> Crown, and la&s;tly to have by their Aid gained <HI>Bononia,</HI> and other Cities, and overcome the <HI>Venetians,</HI> till then unconquered. How could &s;o many <HI>fre&s;h kindne&s;&s;es</HI> be <HI>blotted</HI> out of your <HI>memory?</HI> How &s;o many <HI>Leagues</HI> da&s;h'd in pieces?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>That's too long a &s;tory to explain, but that I may do &s;omething briefly, Nothing was <HI>innovated</HI> by me, but what I had long before <HI>conceived</HI> in my mind: Then I began to <HI>execute</HI> what formerly, to &s;uit with the <HI>nece&s;&s;ity</HI> of things I <HI>di&s;&s;embled,</HI> I now laid open. I ever in my heart <HI>hated</HI> the <HI>French.</HI> That you may ac|count
<PB N="33" REF="17">as &s;poken by <HI>an Oracle,</HI> nor can ever any <HI>Italian</HI> affect tho&s;e <HI>Barbarians,</HI> no more then the <HI>Wolf</HI> do's the <HI>Lamb:</HI> But I not only an <HI>Italian,</HI> but a <HI>Genove&s;e,</HI> &s;o long u&s;ed them like <HI>Friends</HI> as I had need of them: Therefore whil&s;t the&s;e <HI>Barbarians</HI> were u&s;eful to me, I <HI>bore</HI> much, <HI>di&s;&s;embled</HI> much, and <HI>feigned</HI> many things: In &s;hort, there was nothing I did not either <HI>do</HI> or <HI>&s;uffer,</HI> but when things were brought to the <HI>State</HI> I wi&s;hed for, it was time to act the <HI>true Julius,</HI> and remove that whole <HI>&s;um</HI> of <HI>Barbarians</HI> out of <HI>Italy.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Peter.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What kind of <HI>Bea&s;ts</HI> are tho&s;e thou calle&s;t <HI>Barbarians?</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>They are Men.</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Men? but not <HI>Chri&s;tians.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes <HI>Chri&s;tians</HI> too; but what's that to the pur|po&s;e?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>They are <HI>Chri&s;tians</HI> then it &s;eems; but <HI>un|learned</HI> and leading a <HI>Ru&s;tick life.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>They are a mo&s;t <HI>flouri&s;hing</HI> People, and e&s;pecial|ly which made us fir&s;t envy them in <HI>riches.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Why do you then &s;irname them <HI>Barbarians?</HI> What's that you mutter?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Gen.</SPEAKER>
<P>Let me now take a turn to &s;peak, <HI>Italy</HI> though it were daub'd and be&s;mear'd over with the filth of all <HI>barbarous</HI> Nations, &s;o that it &s;eem'd a very Jakes, yet from the Learning of the <HI>Gentiles</HI> had <HI>drunk</HI> in this <HI>mad|ne&s;s</HI> that all born out of <HI>Italy</HI> they call <HI>Barbarians,</HI> which nick-name they account more <HI>reproachful</HI> than either <HI>Parricide</HI> or <HI>committer</HI> of <HI>Sacriledge.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>So it &s;eems, but &s;ince <HI>Christ</HI> died for all men, and that with him there is no <HI>re&s;pect</HI> of Per&s;ons: Whil&s;t thou <HI>profe&s;&s;est</HI> to be the <HI>Vicar</HI> of <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> why do'&s;t thou not <HI>receive</HI> all with the &s;ame <HI>mind</HI> among whom <HI>Christ</HI> has made no <HI>difference.</HI></P>
</SP>
<PB N="34" REF="18">
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>The truth is, I de&s;ire to <HI>embrace</HI> both the <HI>In|dians, Africans,</HI> and <HI>Ethiopeans,</HI> &s;o they would <HI>&s;ubmit</HI> and pay <HI>Tribute;</HI> but all the&s;e we ca&s;t off, and next the <HI>Greeks,</HI> as men too <HI>clo&s;e fi&s;ted,</HI> &amp; but <HI>&s;light</HI> acknowledgers of the <HI>Maje&s;ty</HI> of the <HI>Pope.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Then the See of <HI>Rome</HI> is as it were the <HI>&s;tore|hou&s;e</HI> of <HI>all the World.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>And is it any mighty matter, if from all we reap <HI>carnal</HI> things, when to all we &s;owe <HI>&s;piritual</HI> things?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What do'&s;t thou talk of <HI>Spiritual</HI> things? I have heard nothing yet but what is <HI>Worldly?</HI> Perhaps thou do'&s;t deliver the Holy Doctrine from Chri&s;t?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>There are tho&s;e may <HI>Preach</HI> if they will, nor do we <HI>prohibit</HI> them, provided they &s;peak <HI>nothing</HI> again&s;t our <HI>Maje&s;ty.</HI></P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>What then?</P>
</SP>
<SP>
<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>What then? why &s;hould whatever Kings <HI>exact</HI> be given, but that <HI>receiving</HI> it they &s;hould &s;ingularly <HI>im|part,</HI> though from us they never <HI>receive</HI> any thing; for whatever is at any time <HI>Holy,</HI> is to be imputed to us, though we <HI>&s;nore</HI> all days of our life. Though be&s;ides that, we do give large <HI>Indulgences</HI> for a <HI>little</HI> Money. We <HI>di&s;pence</HI> with <HI>heinous</HI> matters for no <HI>mighty</HI> &s;um, and <HI>ble&s;s</HI> all we meet everywhere and that for <HI>nothing.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>The truth is, I <HI>under&s;tand</HI> none of the&s;e things; but to return to what we were <HI>di&s;puting</HI> of: Why do's your <HI>mo&s;t &s;acred Maje&s;ty</HI> &s;o much abhor the <HI>Barbarians,</HI> that <HI>Heaven</HI> and <HI>Earth</HI> mu&s;t be brought to|gether, rather then they not <HI>driven</HI> out of <HI>Italy?</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>All kind of <HI>barbarous</HI> People are <HI>&s;uper&s;titious,</HI> e|&s;pecially the <HI>French;</HI> for the <HI>Spaniard</HI> do's not &s;o ill a|gree with us, whether you re&s;pect their <HI>language</HI> or their <HI>manners.</HI> And yet the&s;e I would have <HI>removed</HI> too, that I might at more <HI>liberty</HI> have acted my own <HI>plea&s;ure.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Why? do they, be&s;ides <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> wor&s;hip other Gods?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>No, but they too <HI>diligently</HI> and <HI>anxiou&s;ly</HI> wor&s;hip <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> him&s;elf, and with &s;ome <HI>ancient</HI> and long-&s;ince <HI>ob&s;olete</HI> words 'tis a miracle how fooli&s;h men are moved.</P>
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<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Perhaps they'r Magick?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>You <HI>trifle.</HI> They'r <HI>Simony, Bla&s;phemy, Sodomy, Witchcraft</HI> and <HI>Sorcery.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>Hold: good words pray.</P>
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<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>As thou now <HI>abhor'st</HI> them, &s;o do they.</P>
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<SPEAKER>St. <HI>Pet.</HI></SPEAKER>
<P>I meddle not with <HI>Names,</HI> the things them&s;elves are with <HI>you,</HI> I will not &s;ay they'r with any <HI>Chri&s;tians.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>Jul.</SPEAKER>
<P>Surely the <HI>Barbarians</HI> them&s;elves want not their <HI>vices,</HI> but are infected with <HI>divers,</HI> only they <HI>cur&s;e</HI> and <HI>execrate</HI> ours, and <HI>flatter</HI> them&s;elves in their <HI>own;</HI> on the contrary, we <HI>cheri&s;h</HI> our &s;elves in ours, and <HI>abhor</HI> theirs. We e&s;teem <HI>Poverty</HI> an abominable <HI>reproach,</HI> which <HI>right</HI> or <HI>wrong</HI> is to be <HI>avoided;</HI> They &s;carce think a <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> ought to enjoy any <HI>Riches,</HI> unle&s;s &s;uch as are <HI>gained</HI> without <HI>fraud.</HI> We &s;carce dare name <HI>Drunkenne&s;s</HI> (though I mu&s;t confe&s;s in that I &s;hould not &s;o <HI>vehemently</HI> di&s;&s;ent from them if they would <HI>agree</HI> in other things); but the <HI>Germans</HI> think it a <HI>venial &s;in,</HI> and rather <HI>merry</HI> then <HI>wicked.</HI> They violently <HI>ban</HI> and <HI>dete&s;t &V;&s;ury;</HI> we think no &s;ort of men more <HI>u&s;eful</HI> and <HI>nece&s;&s;ary</HI> to the <HI>Church. Prepo&s;trous Venery,</HI> or <HI>Sodomy,</HI> they look upon as &s;o <HI>filthy,</HI> that whoever do's but &s;o much as name it, they think <HI>pollutes</HI> the very <HI>Sun</HI> and <HI>Air;</HI> we think <HI>quite</HI> otherwi&s;e: So for <HI>Simony,</HI> a word quite <HI>bani&s;hed</HI> out of <HI>nature,</HI> they yet fear the <HI>&s;hadow</HI> of, and <HI>&s;tubbornly</HI> hold fa&s;t to <HI>old</HI> and <HI>decayed</HI> Laws: We look a clean contrary way: And of this kind there are many others wherein the <HI>Barbarians</HI> agree not with us, whereupon, whil&s;t we lead &s;uch <HI>a different</HI> cour&s;e of life, they are to be forbid <HI>prying</HI> into our <HI>my|&s;teries,</HI> and to be <HI>&s;u&s;pected</HI> though they are <HI>ignorant</HI> of them; for if once they under&s;tood the <HI>&s;ecrets</HI> of our <HI>Court,</HI> they would pre|&s;ently <HI>divulge</HI> them; and by what means, I know not, they are mo&s;t <HI>clear &s;ighted</HI> in <HI>reproving Vices:</HI> They write mo&s;t <HI>&s;candalous</HI> Letters to their <HI>Country-men,</HI> and make a <HI>clamor</HI> everywhere, that with us is not the <HI>&s;eat</HI> of <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> but the <HI>&s;ink</HI> of <HI>Satan.</HI> They <HI>di|&s;pute</HI> of me, whether <HI>gaining</HI> in &s;uch a manner the <HI>Chair,</HI> and <HI>li|ving</HI> as I did, I ought to be e&s;teemed as <HI>Pope.</HI> And thus in the fir&s;t place they at once <HI>le&s;&s;en</HI> among <HI>ignorant</HI> people the <HI>opinion</HI> of
<PB N="36" REF="19">our <HI>Holine&s;s</HI> and our <HI>Authority,</HI> who before had never heard any thing of us but that we acted in <HI>Chri&s;t</HI>'s <HI>&s;tead</HI> upon <HI>Earth,</HI> and held the next place, and therefore were <HI>Peers</HI> to <HI>God</HI> in Power; and from the&s;e things <HI>intollerable</HI> dammage <HI>accrues</HI> to the Church. We <HI>&s;ell</HI> fewer <HI>Di&s;pen&s;ations</HI> and at a <HI>lower</HI> rate: There comes in le&s;s <HI>Revenue</HI> from <HI>Bi&s;hopricks, Benefices</HI> and <HI>Abbeys:</HI> The <HI>common</HI> people, if any thing be <HI>exacted</HI> from them, pay it with an ill will: In &s;hort, every where the <HI>gain</HI> is le&s;s, and the <HI>Market</HI> thinner: And la&s;t of all, our <HI>Thunder-bolts</HI> do <HI>le&s;s</HI> and <HI>le&s;s</HI> frighten; &s;o that if once their <HI>boldne&s;s</HI> &s;hould fly &s;o high as to declare a <HI>wicked Pope</HI> could do <HI>nothing,</HI> and &s;o contemn our <HI>Threatnings</HI> and <HI>Excommu|nications,</HI> we &s;hould be in a condition of <HI>&s;tarving.</HI> But if they were once got further off (&s;uch is the wit of the <HI>Barbarians</HI>) they would more <HI>a&s;&s;iduou&s;ly</HI> adore us, and we by Letters <HI>aptly</HI> writ, would drive the&s;e <HI>thoughts</HI> from their minds. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> This is not fair dealing, if herein depends the <HI>Apo&s;tolical Authority</HI> that your lives &s;hould be <HI>cloked,</HI> and your <HI>frauds</HI> concealed. We u&s;ed to <HI>wi&s;h</HI> nothing <HI>more</HI> then that what we did in our <HI>Chambers</HI> might be known to all the <HI>World,</HI> and therefore for the mo&s;t we <HI>ordered</HI> our actions as if <HI>all eyes</HI> had been <HI>upon</HI> us: But to proceed, Has the World now &s;uch <HI>Religious</HI> Princes, and is their <HI>reverence</HI> to Prie&s;ts &s;o great, that at the nod of one, and he &s;uch a one too, they will <HI>univer&s;ally</HI> take Arms? for in my time we &s;uffered under tho&s;e <HI>deadly</HI> and <HI>de&s;piteful</HI> Enemies. <HI>Jul.</HI> As for matter of <HI>life</HI> they are not &s;uch <HI>&s;uper&s;titious Chri&s;tians,</HI> they plainly contemn us, and look upon us as <HI>trifles,</HI> unle&s;s &s;ome of the <HI>weaker</HI> of them &s;tand in awe of that terrible <HI>thunder-bolt</HI> of <HI>Excommunieation,</HI> nor are they with it moved <HI>indeed</HI> and in <HI>truth</HI> of opinion; There are tho&s;e which <HI>hope</HI> for, or <HI>fear</HI> our Riches, and for that <HI>yield</HI> not a little to our <HI>Authority.</HI> Some are per&s;waded that great <HI>misfortunes</HI> will per&s;ecute tho&s;e who in any affair give any <HI>vexation</HI> to the <HI>Prie&s;thood,</HI> almo&s;t all as they are <HI>civilly</HI> Educated do &s;omewhat fa|vour <HI>Ceremonies,</HI> e&s;pecially <HI>encouraged</HI> by us, for <HI>Ceremonies</HI> and <HI>Fables</HI> keep the Vulgar in awe. So that one thing with another the <HI>game</HI> goes &s;eriou&s;ly on. We <HI>grace</HI> them with <HI>magnificent titles</HI> though they be the <HI>wicked&s;t</HI> of men, Calling this <HI>Catholick,</HI> a &s;e|cond <HI>mo&s;t Serene,</HI> a third <HI>mo&s;t Illu&s;trious,</HI> a fourth <HI>Augu&s;tus,</HI> all of them <HI>beloved Sons;</HI> and they in return &s;till call us <HI>Most Holy Fa|thers</HI> in their Letters, and oft-times have <HI>&s;ubmitted</HI> them&s;elves to
<PB N="37" REF="19"><HI>ki&s;s our Feet,</HI> and when the matter treated of is not too <HI>mighty,</HI> yield it often to our <HI>Authority,</HI> whereby they gain them&s;elves an <HI>opinion</HI> of Piety among the <HI>Vulgar;</HI> We &s;end them con&s;ecrated <HI>Ro&s;es, Tiara's, Swords,</HI> and confirm their <HI>Dignity</HI> with mo&s;t <HI>power|ful Bulls;</HI> they again &s;end us <HI>Hor&s;es, Souldiers, Money,</HI> and &s;ome|times <HI>Boyes;</HI> and thus as the &s;aying is, <HI>the Mules &s;crub one another.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> If they be &s;uch, I do not under&s;tand upon what account you could &s;tir up &s;uch <HI>Potent</HI> Kings to &s;uch <HI>di&s;mal</HI> Wars, &amp; e&s;pe|cially to the <HI>breaking</HI> of &s;o many <HI>Leagues. Jul.</HI> But if you are capable of <HI>conceiving</HI> tho&s;e things I am about to tell you, you will under&s;tand more then <HI>Apo&s;tolick Wit.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> I will <HI>endeavour</HI> it as much as I can. <HI>Jul.</HI> My <HI>&s;tudy</HI> then in the fir&s;t place was to under&s;tand the <HI>Genius, Manners, Inclination, Riches</HI> and <HI>De&s;igns</HI> of all People, who <HI>agreed</HI> with <HI>who,</HI> and <HI>who</HI> and <HI>who</HI> were at <HI>enmity;</HI> then turning all this to <HI>advantage,</HI> in the fir&s;t place I ea&s;ily &s;et the <HI>French</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Venetians,</HI> becau&s;e there happened to be an old grudge between them.</P>
<P>Moreover, we knew that people greedy of <HI>Proroguing</HI> Empire, and the <HI>Venetians</HI> likewi&s;e had &s;ome Cities of theirs in Po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ion. Therefore I mingled my <HI>bu&s;ine&s;s</HI> with their <HI>bu&s;ine&s;s;</HI> Then as to the <HI>Emperour,</HI> though otherwi&s;e he were not any great Friend to the <HI>French,</HI> yet having no other hope of regaining from the <HI>Ve|netians</HI> what they held from him (for they held &s;everal large Cities) he joyned him&s;elf for the time in this War. At length when I did not like that the <HI>French</HI> &s;hould grow too powerful (for matters <HI>&s;ucceeded</HI> beyond what I <HI>de&s;ired</HI>) I &s;tir'd up the King of <HI>Spain</HI> again&s;t them, a man in the fir&s;t place of no <HI>Ada|mantine</HI> Faith, and in the next obliged to <HI>oppre&s;s</HI> the growing pow|er of the <HI>French,</HI> among many other rea&s;ons, for fear of being <HI>Ex|cluded</HI> the Realm of <HI>Naples.</HI> Then though I approved not of their doings, I feignedly received the <HI>Venetians</HI> into favour, that now <HI>imbittered</HI> by Sufferings, I might let their rage loo&s;e upon the <HI>French:</HI> And again, the <HI>Emperour</HI> whom but a little before I had joyned with the <HI>French,</HI> I drew away from their Party, and that partly by <HI>Moneys</HI> which are always prevalent with a <HI>needy</HI> man, partly by <HI>Letters</HI> and <HI>Nuntio's,</HI> whetting his ancient hate to the <HI>French,</HI> with which he had ever <HI>burnt,</HI> although there wanted an opportunity of <HI>Revenge.</HI> Then the <HI>Engli&s;h</HI> I knew to have a na|tural hatred again&s;t the <HI>French,</HI> and be&s;ides under&s;tood that Nation
<PB N="38" REF="20">to be <HI>forward</HI> and <HI>de&s;irous</HI> of War, principally out of hopes of the <HI>&s;poil:</HI> La&s;tly, at that time through the new <HI>liberty</HI> which hap|pened to them by the death of one of their <HI>Severe&s;t</HI> Kings, they were grown <HI>in&s;olent</HI> and almo&s;t <HI>rebellious,</HI> and &s;o ea&s;ily &s;tirr'd up to any <HI>madne&s;s.</HI> There was to the&s;e <HI>conveniencies</HI> for my Affairs another added, That that King was <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 word"> Youth, or rather a Boy, and lately came to the Kingdom, of a <HI>brisk</HI> and <HI>lively</HI> wit, but tru|ly <HI>youthful,</HI> that is, <HI>unquiet</HI> and <HI>Warlike,</HI> who even from his very <HI>Infancy</HI> is &s;aid to have wi&s;hed that he might wage War with the <HI>French.</HI> Above all he was Kin&s;man to the King of <HI>Spain,</HI> whom I had already drawn to Arms. All the&s;e things I turned to the <HI>Churches</HI> benefit, and by <HI>&s;ix hurdred</HI> Letters <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">one of them writ without <HI>cunning,</HI> at length involved all tho&s;e Princes in a bloody War, nor did I leave the re&s;t <HI>unattempted,</HI> that is, neither the Kings of <HI>Hungary, Portugal,</HI> nor the Kingly Duke of <HI>Burgundy;</HI> but becau&s;e none of the&s;e things were any of their <HI>concerns,</HI> I could not <HI>compel</HI> them; and I knew if I rai&s;ed any of them to a <HI>&s;torm,</HI> none of the re&s;t would <HI>quiet</HI> them. The&s;e therefore &s;ince they would act after their own way, received &s;o <HI>hone&s;t</HI> a Title from us that the more de&s;tru&s;tion they brought to <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> People, the more <HI>Religiou&s;ly</HI> they &s;eem'd to <HI>protect</HI> the <HI>Church</HI> of God. And that you may more <HI>admire</HI> either my <HI>wit</HI> or my <HI>happine&s;s;</HI> The King of <HI>Spain</HI> at that time warr'd again&s;t the <HI>Turks</HI> with <HI>incre|dible</HI> &s;ucce&s;s, and to his great advantage, and yet leaving off all that, he turned his whole <HI>&s;trength</HI> again&s;t the <HI>French:</HI> Moreover, the <HI>Emperour</HI> who was not only tyed by many Leagues; but by many great good Offices to the <HI>French,</HI> were it but this, that by their labour and charge he had recovered and received his Cities in <HI>Italy,</HI> and had only this to do to defend his own, and being already departed from <HI>Padua,</HI> and gone towards <HI>Burgundy,</HI> to the end to drive out the <HI>Geldrians</HI> a Potent Enemy (again&s;t whom he had been the Author of rai&s;ing the War,) out of his Nepheus the Duke of <HI>Burgundy</HI>'s Countrey; yet I &s;o brought it about, that neglecting his own Affairs he &s;hould follow mine. Then there is no People among whom the Pope's Authority is of le&s;s value then the <HI>Engli&s;h</HI> (which will ea&s;ily appear to any, &s;hall turn over the life of St. <HI>Thomas of Canterbury,</HI> and the ancient Con&s;titutions of their Kings) yet that Nation mo&s;t <HI>impatient</HI> of any <HI>Exactions</HI> now &s;uffered them&s;elves to be <HI>fleeced:</HI> but it is a wonder that the
<PB N="39" REF="20"><HI>Prie&s;ts</HI> who u&s;ed to <HI>&s;end</HI> us all they could <HI>gather,</HI> I brought to this, that they <HI>paid</HI> the <HI>tribute</HI> to the King, without <HI>con&s;ider|ing</HI> what a <HI>door</HI> they had <HI>opened</HI> for Kings hereafter. Nor were the King's &s;ufficiently <HI>aware</HI> what <HI>pre&s;ident</HI> they made again&s;t them&s;elves, to wit, that the <HI>Roman Prelate</HI> might afterwards <HI>di|&s;turb</HI> the Kingdom if he <HI>di&s;liked</HI> the <HI>Prince.</HI> And that King being young, went <HI>fiercer</HI> on then I <HI>de&s;ired</HI> or <HI>commanded,</HI> and yet I was better plea&s;ed he &s;hould <HI>&s;in</HI> on that &s;ide: but it would be too long to declare particularly by what <HI>arts</HI> I &s;tirr'd up all the&s;e Princes to &s;o <HI>dreadful</HI> a War again&s;t <HI>Chri&s;tians,</HI> which never any <HI>Pope</HI> could <HI>Excite</HI> them to again&s;t <HI>Turks.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But it may happen that this <HI>firebrand</HI> of War <HI>thrown</HI> about by thee, may <HI>&s;et</HI> the whole World in a <HI>flame. Jul.</HI> Let it <HI>flame</HI> &s;o the See of <HI>Rome</HI> pre&s;erve its <HI>dignity</HI> and <HI>po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ions,</HI> for I have endeavoured to remove all the <HI>weight</HI> of the War out of <HI>Italy</HI> and <HI>throw</HI> it upon the <HI>Barbari|ans;</HI> let them <HI>fight</HI> as long as they plea&s;e, we will <HI>look</HI> on, and per|haps <HI>enjoy</HI> the fruits of their <HI>madne&s;s.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Is this what be|comes the <HI>Pa&s;tor,</HI> and <HI>Holy Father,</HI> and <HI>Vicar of Chri&s;t. Jul.</HI> Why do they rai&s;e <HI>Schi&s;ms?</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But <HI>di&s;tempers</HI> are &s;ometimes to be <HI>born</HI> with when there is more <HI>evil</HI> in the <HI>cure</HI> then <HI>di&s;ea&s;e;</HI> and then had you <HI>admitted</HI> a <HI>Council,</HI> there had been no occa&s;ion of <HI>Sehi&s;m. Jul.</HI> Soft and fair. I had rather <HI>&s;ix thou&s;and</HI> Wars then one <HI>Council;</HI> what if they &s;hould <HI>remove</HI> me from the <HI>Papacy?</HI> what if they &s;hould <HI>rip</HI> up my whole life, and <HI>lay</HI> it open to the <HI>vulgar?</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Yet wert thou a <HI>true Bi&s;hop,</HI> thou would&s;t rather be content to <HI>relinqui&s;h</HI> this Honour, then defend thy <HI>dignity</HI> with &s;o much <HI>mi&s;chief</HI> to the <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> World; but thus it will be, when the <HI>Bi&s;hoprick</HI> is <HI>committed</HI> to one <HI>unworthy</HI> that <HI>Dignity,</HI> and not indeed <HI>committed</HI> but <HI>bought</HI> or <HI>&s;tole,</HI> whereupon it comes in my mind, that thou by <HI>divine approbation</HI> did&s;t become a <HI>plague</HI> to the <HI>French,</HI> who fir&s;t made thee a <HI>plague</HI> to the Church. <HI>Jul.</HI> By my <HI>triple Crown</HI> and my mo&s;t <HI>renowned Triumphs,</HI> I &s;wear that if thou move&s;t my <HI>auger</HI> thou &s;halt <HI>feel too</HI> the power of <HI>Julius.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Oh madman! But to go on, hitherto I have heard nothing but of a <HI>great Captain,</HI> not of an <HI>Eccle&s;ia&s;tick;</HI> of a <HI>Worldly</HI> man, and not of a <HI>Worldly</HI> man only, but of a <HI>Heathen,</HI> even the mo&s;t wicked of <HI>Heathens.</HI> Thy greate&s;t boa&s;ts are, that thou can&s;t <HI>break Leagues</HI> and <HI>Truces, inflame</HI> men to <HI>War,</HI> and <HI>excite</HI> them to <HI>Slaughters;</HI> this is the power of <HI>Satan,</HI> not of a <HI>Bi&s;hop.</HI> He that makes him&s;elf
<PB N="40" REF="21">the <HI>Vicar of Christ,</HI> ought as near as he can to <HI>follow</HI> his <HI>Example;</HI> there is in him <HI>height</HI> of <HI>power</HI> but joyn'd with <HI>height</HI> of <HI>goodue&s;s:</HI> there is in him the <HI>highest</HI> wi&s;dom, but mo&s;t <HI>pure</HI> and <HI>&s;imple.</HI> In thee I &s;ee the <HI>image</HI> of power link'd with a <HI>depth</HI> of malice and <HI>height</HI> of folly; &s;o that if the Prince of the wicked, <HI>the Devil,</HI> would <HI>&s;urrogate</HI> his <HI>Vicar,</HI> whom could he better <HI>pitch</HI> upon then one like thee? Tell me what did&s;t thou ever do like an <HI>Apo&s;tolical</HI> man? <HI>Jul.</HI> What can be more <HI>Apo&s;tolical</HI> then to <HI>augment</HI> the <HI>Church</HI> of <HI>Christ.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But if the <HI><GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">hurch</HI> are the <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI>-People <HI>compacted</HI> together by the <HI>Spirit</HI> of <HI>Christ,</HI> thou &s;eem'&s;t to me to be the <HI>&s;ubverter</HI> of this Church, whil&s;t thou thus <HI>provokest</HI> the World to horrid War, that only thou may&s;t go <HI>unpuni&s;hed</HI> in thy wickedne&s;s. <HI>Jul.</HI> We call the Church the <HI>Holy Hou&s;es,</HI> the <HI>Prie&s;ts,</HI> and e&s;pecially the <HI>Court</HI> of <HI>Rome: my &s;elf</HI> in the fir&s;t place who am <HI>head</HI> of the <HI>Church.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But <HI>Christ</HI> made us <HI>Mini|&s;ters</HI> and him&s;elf <HI>the Head,</HI> unle&s;s a &s;econd <HI>Head</HI> be &s;ince grown; but with what, pray, is the <HI>Church</HI> increa&s;ed? <HI>Jul.</HI> Now you come to the matter, that <HI>Church</HI> formerly <HI>hunger-&s;tarv'd</HI> and <HI>poor,</HI> now <HI>flouri&s;hes</HI> with all <HI>Ornaments.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> With what? with <HI>fervency</HI> of <HI>Faith? Jul.</HI> Thou'rt idle. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> With <HI>contempt</HI> of the <HI>World? Jul.</HI> pray let me tell you it's <HI>true</HI> ornaments, for the&s;e are but words. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> With what then? <HI>Jul.</HI> With <HI>Re|gal Palaces,</HI> with <HI>beautiful Hor&s;es</HI> and <HI>mules,</HI> with a noble <HI>Train</HI> and <HI>Attendants,</HI> with abundant <HI>Riches</HI> &amp; with honorable <HI>Guards. (Gen.</HI> With beautiful <HI>Whores,</HI> with ready and obedient <HI>Pandors</HI>) <HI>Jul.</HI> With <HI>Gold, Purple, Revenues,</HI> &s;o that no King but would &s;eem <HI>poor</HI> and <HI>humble</HI> were his compared with the <HI>riches</HI> and <HI>&s;plendor</HI> of the <HI>Roman Prelates,</HI> none &s;o <HI>Ambitious</HI> but would confe&s;s him&s;elf out-done, none &s;o <HI>magnificent</HI> and <HI>&s;tately</HI> but would condemn his <HI>frugality,</HI> none &s;o &s;tored with <HI>Money,</HI> nor no <HI>&V;&s;urer,</HI> but would envy our <HI>Riches;</HI> the&s;e are the <HI>Ornaments</HI> which I have both <HI>pre|&s;erved</HI> and <HI>increa&s;ed.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But tell me who fir&s;t of all <HI>loaded</HI> and <HI>defiled</HI> the Church which <HI>Christ</HI> would have <HI>light</HI> and <HI>pure</HI> with &s;uch <HI>Ornaments</HI> as the&s;e? <HI>Jul.</HI> What's that to the purpo&s;e? that we are certainly Head, we <HI>hold, po&s;&s;e&s;s,</HI> and <HI>enjoy,</HI> though they &s;ay a certain <HI>Con&s;tantine</HI> conveyed over to <HI>Sylve&s;ter Pope</HI> of <HI>Rome</HI> all and univer&s;al his Imperial Maje&s;ty, Trappings, Hor&s;es, Cha|riots, Helmets, Belts, Coats of Mail, Sergeants, Swords, golden Crowns, pure Gold, Armies, Warlick Engines, Cities and King|doms.
<PB N="41" REF="21">St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Remain there any Monuments of this <HI>Manificence? Jul.</HI> Nothing but a
<NOTE N="*" PLACE="marg"><HI>By</HI> Straw <HI>is meant onely a Comment added to the Decrees of</HI> Gratia|nus.</NOTE> <HI>Straw</HI> mixt with the <HI>Decrees.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Per|haps 'tis a fable. <HI>Jul.</HI> I think &s;o my &s;elf, for who in his <HI>right wits</HI> would <HI>&s;urrender</HI> &s;o <HI>magnificent</HI> an <HI>Empire</HI> though it were to his <HI>Father;</HI> but however it ought <HI>mightily</HI> to be believed, and on all that endeavour to <HI>refute</HI> it, we <HI>impo&s;e</HI> a deep &s;trict <HI>&s;ilence.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But I hear nothing yet but of the World. <HI>Jul.</HI> Perhaps thou dreame&s;t &s;till of that &s;ame <HI>Church</HI> in which thou with a few <HI>hunger-&s;tarved Bi&s;hops</HI> did&s;t enjoy a cold <HI>Popedom,</HI> obnoxious to <HI>poverty, labours, &s;weatings, dangers,</HI> and a thou&s;and other <HI>inconveniencies;</HI> Time now has changed all things for the better, and the <HI>Pope of Rome</HI> is much another thing; For thou wert only <HI>chief Bi&s;hop</HI> in Name and Title: But if now thou &s;hould&s;t behold &s;o many <HI>Holy Hou&s;es</HI> built with the <HI>Riches</HI> of Kings, &s;o many thou&s;ands of <HI>Prie&s;ts</HI> everywhere, and mo&s;t with <HI>large</HI> Benefices; So many <HI>Bi&s;hops</HI> equal with <HI>Princes</HI> in <HI>Power</HI> and <HI>Riches;</HI> &s;o many &s;umptuous <HI>Palaces</HI> of the <HI>Clergy;</HI> E&s;pe|cially &s;aw you but at <HI>Rome</HI> &s;o many <HI>&s;earlet Cardinals</HI> with whole Legions of hired Servants; &s;o many Kingly Hor&s;es, &s;o many Mules adorned with Ti&s;&s;ue, Gold, and Gems, and &s;ome of them &s;hod with Gold and Silver; Then if you &s;aw the <HI>Pope</HI> aloft in his <HI>Golden Seat</HI> carried upon Souldiers &s;houlders, and at the wag of his hand all People <HI>adoring</HI> him. If you heard the noi&s;e of the Guns, the &s;ound of the Trumpets, the melody of the Flutes, and the fla&s;hes of the Fire-works, the Peoples Acclamations and Applau&s;es, and the whole City &s;hining with Torches, whil&s;t <HI>Sovereign</HI> Princes are &s;carce admitted to ki&s;s his feet. If you &s;aw that <HI>Roman Prelate</HI> with his <HI>Foot</HI> putting the Crown upon the Head of the <HI>Roman Emperour,</HI> who is King of all Kings (if ancient Records are of any value, or can intitle to any right) though now he <HI>gains</HI> nothing but the <HI>&s;hadow</HI> of that <HI>mighty Name.</HI> The&s;e things if thou &s;hould&s;t <HI>&s;ee</HI> and <HI>hear,</HI> what would&s;t thou then &s;ay? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> That I &s;aw wor&s;e then any <HI>Heatheni&s;h</HI> Tyrant, the <HI>Enemy of Christ,</HI> and <HI>Plague of the Church. Jul.</HI> Thou would&s;t &s;ay another thing if thou had&s;t &s;een but one of my <HI>Triumphs,</HI> either that, when I was carried in|to <HI>Bononia;</HI> or when I entred <HI>Rome,</HI> having o'recome the <HI>Veneti|ans;</HI> or when flying from <HI>Bononia,</HI> I re-entred <HI>Rome;</HI> or when la&s;tly the <HI>French</HI> were &s;o beyond all hope Routed at <HI>Ravenna;</HI> If thou had&s;t but &s;een the &s;tately Cour&s;ers, the numerous Bands of Souldiers, the delightful &s;pectacles of <HI>delicate Boyes,</HI> the Torches &s;hining on all &s;ides, the mighty fea&s;tival Preparations, the Pomp
<PB N="42" REF="22">of <HI>Bi&s;hops,</HI> the Pride of <HI>Cardinals,</HI> the Trophys and Spoils of <HI>War,</HI> the rebounding Acclamations of People and Souldiers, the Ap|plau&s;es ecchoing everywhere, the winding of the Cornets, the thundring of the Drums, the lightning of the Guns, the Money thrown among the People; &s;aw you, I &s;ay, but all this, and at la&s;t <HI>Me,</HI> the <HI>Head</HI> and <HI>Author</HI> of all this <HI>Pomp,</HI> carried aloft like a <HI>Deity,</HI> you would &s;ay the <HI>Triumphs</HI> of the <HI>Scipio</HI>'s, <HI>Emilius</HI>'s, and <HI>Augu|&s;lus</HI>'s were frugal in compari&s;on of mine. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Hold, hold, enough of <HI>Triumphs</HI> mo&s;t glorious <HI>Souldier;</HI> yet them, though Heathens, do I prefer before thee, whom having for thy Cau&s;e &s;lain &s;o many thou&s;and <HI>Chri&s;tians,</HI> yet <HI>Triumphe&s;t</HI> like a <HI>Holy Father</HI> in <HI>Christ:</HI> Of &s;o many <HI>&s;laughtered</HI> Legions thou art the <HI>Cau&s;e,</HI> who never either by <HI>Life</HI> or <HI>Doctrine</HI> gained&s;t one <HI>Soul</HI> to <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> O fatherly bowels! O worthy <HI>Vicar</HI> to that <HI>Christ,</HI> who died him&s;elf to &s;ave all, whil&s;t thou to defend one <HI>pe&s;tilent</HI> Head, calle&s;t all the World t<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> <HI>de&s;truction. Jul.</HI> You talk the&s;e things becau&s;e you <HI>envy</HI> my glory when you think how <HI>pitiful</HI> and <HI>mean</HI> your Bi&s;hoprick was in compari&s;on of <HI>mine.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Dare&s;t thou, <HI>impudent,</HI> compare thy Glory with mine? Though my <HI>Glory</HI> be not mine but <HI>Chri&s;t</HI>'s. In the fir&s;t place, if thou allow'&s;t <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> to be the <HI>be&s;t</HI> and the <HI>true</HI> Prince of the <HI>Church,</HI> to me he gave the <HI>Keyes</HI> of the <HI>Kingdom,</HI> to me <HI>committed</HI> the <HI>feeding</HI> of his <HI>Sheep,</HI> and my <HI>Faith</HI> with his own mouth He <HI>approved;</HI> Thou by <HI>Mon<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">y, indu&s;try of man,</HI> and <HI>fraud,</HI> wa&s;t made <HI>Chief Pa&s;tor,</HI> if &s;uch a one may be called a <HI>Pa&s;tor.</HI> I <HI>gained</HI> &s;o many <HI>thou&s;and</HI> Souls to <HI>Chri&s;t;</HI> Thou <HI>betrayed&s;t</HI> as many to <HI>perdition:</HI> When <HI>Rome</HI> was yet <HI>Gentile</HI> I fir&s;t taught it <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> thou art become a Ma&s;ter of <HI>Chri&s;tian Heatheni&s;m:</HI> I even with the <HI>&s;hadow</HI> of my body <HI>healed</HI> the <HI>Sick, ca&s;t</HI> out <HI>Devils, rai&s;ed</HI> the <HI>Dead,</HI> and where-ever I came was <HI>beneficial</HI> to &s;ome; What have all thy <HI>Triumphs</HI> equal to that? with a word of my mouth I could <HI>deliver</HI> whom I would to <HI>Satan,</HI> and what my Power <HI>reach'd to</HI> was <HI>experienced</HI> in <HI>Saphira</HI> and her <HI>Husband,</HI> yet whatever Power I had, I employ'd for the <HI>benefit</HI> of mankind: Thou <HI>u&s;ele&s;s</HI> to all, whatever thou could&s;t do, nay, and whatever thou could&s;t not do, thou <HI>perverte&s;t</HI> to the publick <HI>dammage</HI> of the whole World. <HI>Jul.</HI> I wonder in the <HI>Catalogue</HI> of your <HI>Glories,</HI> you do not add the&s;e too, <HI>Poverty, Watchings, Labours, Judgment-Seats, Pri&s;ons, Bonds, Scorns, Reproaches, Stripes,</HI> and finally the <HI>Cro&s;s?</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Thou advi&s;e&s;t evil now: for in the&s;e I may more ju&s;tly <HI>glory</HI> then my <HI>Miracles.</HI> In the&s;e <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> bid us be <HI>glad</HI> and <HI>rejoyce,</HI> in the&s;e he cal|led
<PB N="43" REF="22">us <HI>Ble&s;&s;ed.</HI> So <HI>Paul,</HI> once my <HI>Colleague,</HI> when he boa&s;ted his <HI>great works,</HI> mentions not <HI>Cities</HI> gained by <HI>violence, Legions</HI> &s;lain with the <HI>Sword, Prin|ces</HI> of the World <HI>provoked</HI> to <HI>War,</HI> nor Tyrannical <HI>Pride,</HI> but <HI>&s;hipwrack, bonds, &s;courgings, dangers, lyings in wait</HI> for his life. This is the true <HI>Apo|&s;tolical</HI> Triumph, this is the <HI>glory</HI> of a <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> Captain. He <HI>boa&s;ts</HI> of tho&s;e he had <HI>drawn</HI> from <HI>&s;in,</HI> not how many <HI>millions</HI> of Duckets he had <HI>horded</HI> up. La&s;tly, we to <HI>Eternity</HI> triumph with <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> being <HI>prai&s;ed</HI> even by the wor&s;t of men; thou art <HI>cur&s;ed</HI> by all, unle&s;s tho&s;e like thee, or &s;ome flatterer. <HI>Jul.</HI> The&s;e are things I never heard before. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> I believe it, for what lea&s;ure had&s;t thou to turn over <HI>Evangelical</HI> writings to read <HI>Paul</HI>'s or my Epi&s;tles, whil&s;t &s;o many <HI>Negotiations</HI> &s;o many <HI>Treaties,</HI> &s;o many <HI>Leagues,</HI> &s;o many <HI>Armies,</HI> &s;o many <HI>Triumphs</HI> took up thy whole employment. Other Arts do indeed de&s;ire a mind <HI>relea&s;ed</HI> from <HI>&s;ordid</HI> cares; but the Di&s;cipline of <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> requires a <HI>brea&s;t</HI> wholly <HI>purged</HI> from all worldly <HI>&s;olicitudes,</HI> nor did &s;o great a <HI>Ma&s;ter</HI> de&s;cend from Heaven to Earth to <HI>teach</HI> men an ea&s;ie or vul|gar <HI>Philo&s;ophy,</HI> 'tis no <HI>idle</HI> nor <HI>&s;ecure</HI> Profe&s;&s;ion to be a <HI>Chri&s;tian:</HI> To <HI>avoid</HI> all <HI>plea&s;ure</HI> like <HI>poi&s;on,</HI> To <HI>trample</HI> on <HI>riches</HI> as <HI>dirt,</HI> To <HI>e&s;teem life</HI> it &s;elf as <HI>nothing,</HI> this is the Chri&s;tian-man's Profe&s;&s;ion; the&s;e, becau&s;e they &s;eem <HI>in|tollerable</HI> to tho&s;e who are not <HI>actuated</HI> with the Spirit of <HI>Chri&s;t dwindle</HI> in|to idle <HI>words,</HI> and meer <HI>ceremonies,</HI> and to a <HI>fictitious</HI> Head of <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> and a <HI>fictitious</HI> Body. <HI>Jul.</HI> What <HI>remains</HI> of good are there then for <HI>me,</HI> if you take away my <HI>Money,</HI> if you deprive me of my <HI>Kingdoms,</HI> rob me of my <HI>Revenues,</HI> re&s;train me of my <HI>Plea&s;ures,</HI> and at la&s;t take away my <HI>Life?</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> By this thou pronounce&s;t <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> him&s;elf unhappy, who being <HI>chief</HI> of all, was made the <HI>&s;corn</HI> of all, in <HI>Poverty, Labour, Fa&s;tings;</HI> and <HI>Hunger</HI> he led all his <HI>life,</HI> and at la&s;t <HI>died</HI> the mo&s;t <HI>opprobrious</HI> of all <HI>deaths. Jul.</HI> He may po&s;&s;ibly find &s;ome to <HI>prai&s;e</HI> him, but none to <HI>imitate</HI> him at lea&s;t in the&s;e times. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Yet that <HI>prai&s;ing</HI> is &s;ome <HI>imitation,</HI> though <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> de|prives not his followers of good things; but for fal&s;e <HI>good</HI> he <HI>repleni&s;hes</HI> them with true and <HI>Eternal</HI> good, but he repleni&s;hes them not till they have <HI>abdicated</HI> and <HI>renounced</HI> all worldly <HI>goods;</HI> as him&s;elf was all <HI>heavenly,</HI> &s;o he would have his <HI>Body,</HI> that is the <HI>Church,</HI> to be mo&s;t like him, to wit, <HI>purg'd</HI> from all <HI>contagion</HI> of the <HI>World:</HI> for el&s;e how can it be the <HI>&s;ame</HI> with him who fits in the <HI>Heavens,</HI> whil&s;t it is yet <HI>drench'd</HI> in <HI>Earthly</HI> dregs? But when it &s;hall have <HI>&s;haken</HI> off all the <HI>delights</HI> of this <HI>World,</HI> and which is more the <HI>affections</HI> to them, then <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> opens his <HI>trea&s;ure,</HI> and for <HI>for&s;aken</HI> plea&s;ures, which &s;eem'd dipt in <HI>Honey,</HI> but are indeed &s;ea&s;oned with <HI>Aloes,</HI> he gives them a <HI>ta&s;te</HI> of heavenly <HI>joyes,</HI> and for their <HI>for&s;aken</HI> trea&s;ures far more durable riches. <HI>Jul.</HI> What I pray? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Le&s;t thou &s;hould&s;t think them <HI>vulgar</HI> riches, they are the <HI>Gift</HI> of <HI>Prophecy,</HI> the <HI>Gift</HI> of <HI>Knowledge,</HI> the
<PB N="44" REF="23"><HI>Gift</HI> of <HI>Miracles,</HI> unle&s;s you e&s;teem <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> as vile whom whoever <HI>po&s;&s;e&s;&s;es, po&s;&s;e&s;&s;es</HI> all things. Finally, le&s;t thou &s;hould'&s;t think we here lead a life of <HI>Poverty,</HI> know that the more any one is <HI>afflicted</HI> in this World, the more <HI>abundantly</HI> he is <HI>delighted</HI> in <HI>Chri&s;t;</HI> the <HI>poorer</HI> he is in this World, the <HI>richer</HI> he is in <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> the <HI>lower</HI> he is in this World, the <HI>higher</HI> and more <HI>honoured,</HI> and the <HI>le&s;s</HI> he lives to this World, the <HI>more</HI> he lives in <HI>Chri&s;t;</HI> But <HI>Chri&s;t</HI> would have all his to be <HI>pure</HI> in their <HI>whole</HI> body, and principally his <HI>Mini|&s;ters,</HI> that is, <HI>free</HI> and <HI>uncontaminated</HI> by the <HI>enjoyments</HI> of the <HI>World.</HI> Now I behold the contrary; he who is next to <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> or at lea&s;t would have him|&s;elf &s;o <HI>accounted,</HI> is almo&s;t <HI>drowned</HI> with &s;ordid things, <HI>Money, Dominion, Riches, Wars, Leagues,</HI> and I may well &s;ay <HI>Vices</HI> too; and yet whil&s;t thou art thus an <HI>alien</HI> to <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> yet thou <HI>covere&s;t</HI> thy <HI>Pride</HI> with his <HI>Title,</HI> and under a pretence of his <HI>Name,</HI> who <HI>de&s;pi&s;ed</HI> an Earthly Kingdom, do&s;t Lord it like a <HI>worldly</HI> Tyrant; thou <HI>ble&s;&s;e&s;t</HI> others, whil&s;t thou art thy &s;elf <HI>accur&s;ed;</HI> and do'&s;t <HI>open</HI> the Gates of Heaven to others, while thou thy &s;elf art quite <HI>&s;hut out;</HI> Thou <HI>Con&s;ecrate&s;t,</HI> and art <HI>Execrated; Excommunicate&s;t,</HI> and ha&s;t nothing to do with <HI>Holy</HI> things: What difference is there between thee and the <HI>great Turk,</HI> unle&s;s thou <HI>pretende&s;t</HI> to the Name of <HI>Chri&s;t?</HI> Certainly your <HI>minds</HI> are the <HI>&s;ame,</HI> the <HI>&s;ordidne&s;s</HI> of your life the <HI>&s;ame;</HI> but thou the greater <HI>plague to the World. Jul.</HI> But I de&s;ired that the <HI>Church</HI> &s;hould be <HI>adorned</HI> with all <HI>good</HI> things; and <HI>Ari&s;totle,</HI> as they &s;ay, Con&s;tituted three Orders of <HI>Goods,</HI> of which &s;ome are of <HI>Fortune,</HI> &s;ome of the <HI>Body,</HI> and &s;ome of the <HI>Mind;</HI> therefore becau&s;e I would not invert the Order of the&s;e <HI>Goods;</HI> I began at tho&s;e of <HI>Fortune,</HI> and perhaps by degrees had reach'd to tho&s;e of the <HI>Mind,</HI> had I not been &s;natch'd away by an <HI>untimely</HI> death. St. <HI>Pet. &V;ntimely</HI> do&s;t thou call it at <HI>&s;eventy</HI> years of Age. <HI>Jul.</HI> But if tho&s;e <HI>conveniencies</HI> are wanting, the Vulgar value us not a &s;traw, whom now they both <HI>hate</HI> and <HI>fear;</HI> And &s;o the whole <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> Republick would <HI>fall</HI> to nothing, not being able to <HI>defend</HI> it &s;elf again&s;t the force of its <HI>Enemies.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Rather if the <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI>-People beheld in thee the true <HI>Gifts</HI> of <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> to wit, <HI>Sanctity</HI> of <HI>Life, Holine&s;s</HI> of <HI>Doctrine, in&s;tant Charity, Pro|phecy,</HI> and <HI>Virtue,</HI> this would rai&s;e thee <HI>higher</HI> with them, and the <HI>Chri&s;tian</HI> Commonweal would <HI>flouri&s;h</HI> indeed, when the <HI>Gentiles</HI> &s;hould <HI>&s;ee</HI> and <HI>ad|mire</HI> their <HI>purity</HI> of <HI>life, contempt</HI> of <HI>riches, plea&s;ures, Empire</HI> and <HI>death;</HI> now it is not only <HI>contracted</HI> into a <HI>narrow</HI> compa&s;s, but, if diligent <HI>&s;earch</HI> were made, mo&s;t are in <HI>name only,</HI> Chri&s;tians. Let me be&s;eech you, did you never con&s;ider with your &s;elf, when you were <HI>chief Pa&s;tor</HI> of the <HI>Church,</HI> how the <HI>Church</HI> had its fir&s;t beginnings, how it <HI>increa&s;ed,</HI> and how it was e&s;tabli&s;h|ed? Was it by <HI>Wars,</HI> or <HI>Riches,</HI> or <HI>Hor&s;es;</HI> rather by <HI>Patience,</HI> by <HI>Martyrs|blood</HI> and <HI>Ours,</HI> by <HI>Pri&s;ons</HI> and by <HI>Stripes.</HI> Thou &s;ay'&s;t the <HI>Church</HI> is <HI>in|crea&s;ed</HI>
<PB N="45" REF="23">when its Mini&s;ters are <HI>loaden</HI> with <HI>humane</HI> Power; Thou calle&s;t it <HI>adorned,</HI> when it is <HI>defiled</HI> with the <HI>delights</HI> and <HI>plea&s;ures</HI> of the World: Thou &s;ay'&s;t it is <HI>defended,</HI> when for the <HI>avarice</HI> of Prie&s;ts the World is <HI>tur|moyl'd</HI> with cruel Wars; Thou call'&s;t it <HI>flouri&s;hing,</HI> when it is <HI>drunk</HI> with earthly <HI>plea&s;ures;</HI> and at <HI>quiet,</HI> when no body crying out again&s;t it; it enjoys its <HI>Riches</HI> and its <HI>Vices;</HI> And with the&s;e <HI>fal&s;e</HI> and <HI>covered</HI> Titles thou im|po&s;e&s;t upon Princes, who taught by thee their <HI>Ma&s;ter,</HI> call their <HI>butcheries</HI> and <HI>furious</HI> conflicts, a <HI>defence of Chri&s;t. Jul.</HI> But I never heard the&s;e things before. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> What then did thy <HI>Preachers</HI> teach thee? <HI>Jul.</HI> From them I heard nothing but an <HI>exce&s;s</HI> of <HI>Applau&s;e,</HI> with <HI>imbelli&s;hed</HI> words they <HI>thundred</HI> out my <HI>prai&s;es,</HI> telling me I was a <HI>Jove,</HI> who with my Thunder <HI>&s;hak'd</HI> all things, a certain <HI>true</HI> and <HI>vi&s;ible</HI> Divinity, and the pub|lick <HI>&s;afety</HI> of the World, with many other things of that kind. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> 'Tis no wonder there was no one to gather thee up when thou wert a &s;alt that had lo&s;t its &s;avour. For this is the true excellency of an Apo&s;tolical Man to teach Chri&s;t to others, and that purely. <HI>Jul.</HI> Then you wont open. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> To any one rather then to &s;uch a Plague as thou; for with thee we are all Excommunicated: But &s;hall I give you coun&s;el is not ill? you have here a band of &s;trong men, you have a va&s;t Trea&s;ure, and are your &s;elf a good Engineer; go and build your &s;elf &s;ome new Paradi&s;e, but be &s;ure it be well fortified le&s;t the Devils &s;hould &s;torm it. <HI>Jul.</HI> Yes Sir, I will do &s;omething worthy of my &s;elf, I will &s;et to work for this &s;ix months, and having increa&s;ed my fires come and drive you hence, unle&s;s you come to a &s;ubmi&s;&s;ion; for I doubt not in a little time, out of the &s;laughter of War, to have at lea&s;t &s;ixty thou&s;and men come to me. There|fore now, <HI>Peter,</HI> if you be wi&s;e, open at this la&s;t Summons. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> In|deed We are much obliged to your Clemency (an Obligation the World ne're knew) that thus you will Lighten before you Thunder, and give warning before you &s;trike; but I would per&s;wade you, if you will hear me, that that Army you threaten us with, you would at what price &s;oever prefer to <HI>Hildebrand</HI> to be Captain of, that famous Magician Predece&s;&s;or of yours, for no force but Magick can open the&s;e doors to you. <HI>Patet atra Janua di|tis; Hell lies before you. Jul.</HI> That <HI>Hildebrand</HI> thou &s;peak&s;t of (what|ever in the re&s;t he were black or white; yet) I'me &s;ure was an Excellent Pope, and de&s;erved highly of the Church of <HI>Rome.</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Yet I ne|ver &s;aw him in Heaven; Is he with thee at the Gate? <HI>Jul.</HI> I perceive there's no talking with thee, for either thou art not <HI>Peter,</HI> or knowe&s;t not that I am <HI>Julius</HI> the Second; I, whom thou thus treate&s;t like a thing of nothing, <HI>Farewel.</HI> But, in a &s;hort time, expect my Return with all my Forces. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Such our Saviour in the Go&s;pel foretold &s;hould be
<PB N="46" REF="24">the farewel of the impure Spirit; But hold <HI>Julius</HI> the Second, before your tumbling headlong into the bottomle&s;s Pit whither you are going: An|&s;wer me &s;eriou&s;ly &s;ome things (for hitherto you &s;eem only a drolling Player) did you ever &s;o much as in a dream hope to get into Heaven? <HI>Jul.</HI> I never had the lea&s;t manner of doubt of it, for why &s;hould I think Heaven &s;hould be &s;hut again&s;t me who am thy Succe&s;&s;or that art the Hea|venly Porter? Is not the Pope of Rome heir apparent to <HI>Peter?</HI> St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Not at all: but thou &s;ucceede&s;t not <HI>Peter;</HI> but <HI>Simon,</HI> not the Apo&s;tle; but the Sorcerer. What have I more to do with thee then with <HI>Julius Ce&s;ar,</HI> who was likewi&s;e once chief Pontiffe? <HI>Jul.</HI> All acknowledge me thy Succe&s;&s;or, and in what can I &s;ucceed thee but thy &s;eat? but what &s;eat is there now left me to derive from thee if thou keepe&s;t &s;hut that Gate, un|le&s;s thou wilt have Hell, which thou threatne&s;t me with, be the Apo&s;tolical Seat. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> 'Tis enough, 'tis not unworthy to be the <HI>Julian</HI> and P&s;eudo-Apo&s;tolical: In the mean time thou &s;eeme&s;t &s;ubtilly to Philo&s;o|phize with me as if not ignorant of Logick. <HI>Jul.</HI> Thou know&s;t I am no &s;uch Conjurer? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Indeed of your Learning, We have already heard more then enough from your own mouth; yet you did not want Letters, when in a certain BULL for <HI>Fiat,</HI> you &s;ub&s;cribed <HI>Fiatur? Jul.</HI> As if a Pope of Rome were to re&s;pect Critici&s;ms of Gram|mar. However this was not &s;ub&s;cribed <HI>Ex Cathedra,</HI> which I am hearti|ly griev'd at, for then none of any <HI>Order, State,</HI> or <HI>Dignity</HI> what&s;oever, though Kingly, dur&s;t in any way correct or contradict it, without being con&s;cious to him&s;elf of incurring the indignation of Omnipotent God. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> You advi&s;edly omitted the indignation likewi&s;e of the Apo&s;tles St. <HI>Peter</HI> and St. <HI>Paul,</HI> which u&s;e to be brandi&s;hed in tho&s;e forms of wri|ting, for tho&s;e more then bruti&s;h Thunder-bolts, which for your Lu&s;t and bea&s;tly impul&s;e of Spirit you u&s;ed to ca&s;t abroad, were never taught you by us. But pray (that we may return to the matter) what place did&s;t thou fancy Heaven to be? Or, how do'&s;t imagine to pa&s;s thy time there, if thou coulde&s;t, which is impo&s;&s;ible, reach the Heavenly Quire? <HI>Jul.</HI> Do'&s;t ask concerning the place? I thought Heaven (as every place above is) pervious to the Pope of Rome, and I would not have thee be &s;ollici|tous about my pa&s;&s;ing my time there; I never certainly lo&s;t, more time then now talking with you: but pray what are the cau&s;e of your doubts? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Very material ones, for here at lea&s;t thou wilt langni&s;h in ano|ther Element, not finding one of tho&s;e things to do in which thou wert conver&s;ant on Earth. <HI>Jul.</HI> How &s;o I pray? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Do'&s;t thou yet ask? Here with the <HI>Spirtis of the Ju&s;t made perfect</HI> (not Saints of thy Kalendar) a pure conver&s;ation is to be entred into, here a holy com|merce
<PB N="47" REF="24">is held with the ble&s;&s;ed Angels, above all that ineffable Society with God and his Chri&s;t is to be &s;ought after; Here tho&s;e that are purged from all Earthly plea&s;tures come to the enjoyment of true joyes: but tho&s;e joyes here prepared (and they are the mo&s;t exqui&s;ite imaginable) are fitted and accommodated to tho&s;e which are endued with true Sancti|ty, not at all for tho&s;e any way tainted with wickedne&s;s, though they may have born the empty Titles of Holine&s;s. Nay, &s;hould they be gran|ted to others, that is, to wicked wretches like to thee, their Souls not be|ing capable of entertaining &s;piritual gladne&s;s, even tho&s;e Heavenly joyes would be turned into wor&s;e then helli&s;h torments, when we perceive a &s;i|militude of love and delight, and experience the very bottom of their contraries hate and angui&s;h. In this place are no Common-wealths to be overthrown, no Kings and Princes to be trampled under feet, no Ho&s;ts of Enemies to be de&s;troyed, no &s;plendid Triumphs to be deck'd with &s;poils, no faithful <HI>Confe&s;&s;ors</HI> of Chri&s;t (the dear Children of God) under pre|tence of Here&s;ie to be per&s;ecuted with &s;tripes, torments, and death; no Throne is here erected for the Pope of <HI>Rome</HI> to &s;it on; nor no Purple <HI>Car|dinals</HI> on all &s;ides to encompa&s;s him; no <HI>Canoni&s;ts,</HI> who made and wor|&s;hipped thee as their Lord God in Heaven, though thou wert a Devil in|carnate, and required others to give thee no le&s;s then Divine Wor&s;hip; no Papal Exchequers, whither the ill-got Riches of the Church mi&s;er|ably flow; no Stage-Playes, no Theaters, no Pompous Spectacles, no Gluttony, nor Drunkenne&s;s, no Harlotry, Sodomy, nor Rioting, no actor nor no procurer of Lu&s;t; Finally, none of the&s;e ob&s;cene plea&s;ures in which thou, like a Swine, which art nothing but mire &amp; dirt, did&s;t wallow, and in which thou know&s;t mo&s;t of tho&s;e who would call them&s;elves Bi|&s;hops of the <HI>Catholick Church</HI> are be&s;meared. <HI>Gen.</HI> If it be &s;o, in my mind its be&s;t be gone quickly, for thou know&s;t thou do'&s;t not delight in tho&s;e other things which thou ha&s;t not been accu&s;tomed to. St. <HI>Pet.</HI> Peace <HI>Genius,</HI> 'tis not yet your turn to &s;peak. (<HI>Gen.</HI> by and by it will) St. <HI>Pet.</HI> But did not the Holy Scriptures foretel thee all this? <HI>Jul.</HI> What Holy Scriptures do you talk of? St. <HI>Pet.</HI> The Canonical. <HI>Jul.</HI> I &s;up|po&s;e you mean the Decrees and Decretals. St. <HI>Pet.:</HI> Away Trifler, that written one dictated by the Holy Spirit. <HI>Jul.</HI> O! that they call the <HI>Bible,</HI> (for I never knew the face of it) certainly out of hate to me you will by and by turn Heretick, for &s;o the <HI>leoni&s;ts</HI> love to talk, and &s;o now a|days do all who are no good Catholicks; I could never endure tho&s;e <HI>Bible|readers,</HI> as prejudicial both to the advantage (which I wonder <HI>Peter</HI> &s;hould be ignorant of) and Dignity of the Epi&s;copal See; but how long will you &s;uffer me here to catch cold in my toes, which even Kings have ki&s;&s;ed.
<PB N="48" REF="25"><HI>St. Pet.</HI> Do you grow cold? be gone then, not to your Fictitious King|doms and painted Fires of Purgatory, whence by I kno<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> not what fulne&s;s of feigned Power thou cheated&s;t other into a belief of fre<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">ing them, and art now thy &s;elf deceived with vain hopes; but to the true and Eternal Fire prepared for thee by the Devil and his Angels, <HI>there thou wilt be warm enough. Gen.</HI> 'Tis decreed thou &s;ee&s;t, why do we lo&s;e any more time, for my great Emperour the Prince of Darkne&s;s beckens me with his &s;taff. Now 'tis my turn both to &s;peak and do. <HI>Jul.</HI> Wicked, Treacherous <HI>Genins</HI> whither do you betray <HI>Julius?</HI> Might I but return to <HI>Rome,</HI> (nay, only to the <HI>Porphyr Seat</HI>) how would I <HI>damn</HI> thee with Cur&s;es (in de&s;pight of <HI>Peter</HI>) under the Fi&s;herman's Ring; I would <HI>(dictum factum)</HI> &s;tir up all <HI>Catholick Princes</HI> again&s;t thee. <HI>Gen.</HI> 'Tis well in this mad-humour you han't your Sword; this is the fir&s;t time 'twas ever wanting. <HI>Jul. Julius</HI> is a&s;&s;aulted, Pope <HI>Julius</HI> the Second, a hundred thou&s;and years of Plenary Apo&s;tolick Indulgence to all and &s;ingular that &mdash; <HI>Gen.</HI> Go wretch, now you rave, promi&s;ing to deliver others from the feigned tor|tures of Purgatory, for your own Redemption; but d'ee &s;ee that black Crew coming hither? <HI>Jul.</HI> Devils without doubt, Help, help, Oh help. <HI>Gen.</HI> Here Devils, here take your own, Pope <HI>Julius</HI> the Second.</P>
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<L><HI>Do'&s;t &s;ee, Great</HI> Julius, <HI>Heav'n to thee deny'd?</HI></L>
<L><HI>Whil&s;t</HI> Tiburs <HI>waves thy &s;lighted Keys do's bide.</HI></L>
<L><HI>How would tho&s;e Keys now more then Swords avail;</HI></L>
<L><HI>And a poor Fi&s;her's Cloak, then Coats of Maile?</HI></L>
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