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<P>THE CHRISTIAN A QUAKER THE QUAKER A CHRISTIAN DEMONSTRATED In a Letter to a mo&s;t Worthy Per&s;on in this City, giving An&s;wer to the little Book lately Publi&s;hed, and now Re-printed, Entituled, <HI>A Dialogue between a Chri&s;tia<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> and a Quaker.</HI></P>
<P>Whereunto is added a Po&s;t-&s;cript t<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter"> the Reader.</P>
<Q>Vir bonus <HI>Cajus Sejus</HI> malus tantum quia Chri&s;tianus. <BIBL><HI>Tertul.</HI></BIBL></Q>
<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed. 1674.</P>
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<HEAD>THE CHRISTIAN A QUAKER, THE QUAKER A CHRISTIAN.</HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>SIR,</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>AS I have at &s;undry times upon divers and di&s;tink Occa&s;ions, vi&s;ited you, and finding Favour and
<PB N="2" REF="3"> Acceptance with you, I have thought meet at this time, to pre&s;ent you with &s;ome brief, and general Animadver|&s;ions on the little Book, lately Pub|li&s;hed, called, <HI>A Dialogue between a Chri&s;tian and a Quaker,</HI> which at fir&s;t I marvelled at, e&s;pecially at this time and &s;ea&s;on.</P>
<P>Indeed I heard &s;ome few Weeks before, by a very good and &s;ober Per|&s;on, That there was &s;uch an one, as the Author of this Book &s;eems to be, <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">as then writing to this purpo&s;e: but he &s;pake it thus; That it was to prove the Quakers to be no Chri&s;ti|ans. He told me the name of the Man, which I remember I had &s;ome knowledge of. He ol&s;o told me, who encouraged and countenanced him in it. Some of great Name in this City, who al&s;o have heretofore ap|peared in like manner, again&s;t the
<PB N="3" REF="3"> forenamed People: but his Name I will not mention.</P>
<P>There was one remarkable Pa&s;&s;age I was enformed of, touching the Author of the Book, <HI>viz.</HI> What befel him in the Writing of it, which he related thus. as from his own mouth.</P>
<P>As I was (&s;aid he) Wtiting, and making it ready, That Scrip|ture, 1 <HI>John</HI> 2.27. came in my way, and &s;o &s;tumbled me, that I was ready to lay the bu&s;ine&s;s quite a&s;ide. The words are the&s;e; <HI>But the Anointing, which ye have received of him, abideth in you. And ye need not, that any man teach you, but as the &s;ame Anoint|ing teacheth you of all things, and is Truth, and is no Lye.</HI></P>
<P>But here he at length (as he &s;aid)
<PB N="4" REF="4"> taking Coun&s;el of his Pillow, got o|ver this Scripture, or laid it quite by; for I do not remember I find it in his Book.</P>
<CLOSER><SALUTE>SIR,</SALUTE> Let this &s;erve but for a Preface.</CLOSER>
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<P>TOuching the Book it &s;elf, I &s;hall chiefly take notice of the Title, and &s;hall make but this Ob&s;ervation of it; That if it be but tran&s;po&s;ed, and the order of the the words inverted (and &s;o make the Author, who intends him&s;elf by the Chri&s;tian, to be the Quaker, and the Quaker indeed to be the true Chri&s;tian, and &s;o invert or tran&s;po&s;e the whole Dialogue throughout) the Book may pa&s;s for a Book of &s;ome good Informa|tion.</P>
<P>This matter indeed to me is plain, and evident: that the Chri&s;tian
<PB N="6" REF="5"> throughout this book, is the Quaker, and the Quaker the Chri&s;tian.</P>
<P>For evidence and demon&s;tration of the fir&s;t, why I &s;ay, the Chri&s;ti|an (&s;o called) is more truly to be termed a Quaker, is, becau&s;e in my eye, and belief, he bears the &s;imili|tude and likene&s;s, throughout the Book, of a Jew, not he (I mean) who is one inwardly, who&s;e prai&s;e is not of Men, but of God; but he that is a Jew in the other &s;en&s;e of the Scripture a Jew (that is) a Pro|fe&s;&s;or of the Letter only, &s;uch a one, as was even <HI>Paul</HI> him&s;elf, whiles <HI>Saul,</HI> a well meaning Zealot (as the Lan|guage now is) here, the Body of the Jews &s;tuck, and here they abide, even to this very hour: for they &s;tumbled at the very &s;ame &s;tumbling-&s;tone. The Jews are the Profe&s;&s;ors of Chri&s;t (that is of the <HI>Me&s;&s;ias</HI>) as well as tho&s;e called by the common
<PB N="7" REF="5"> name of Chri&s;tians; and the ground, upon the matter, of this their Pro|fe&s;&s;ion, is much of the &s;ame kind.</P>
<P>The Jews have of a long time been expecting their <HI>Me&s;&s;iah</HI> with|out them, but however, he is not (as they confe&s;s) as yet come unto them, &s;o that they rather expect to be Chri&s;tians, but are not &s;uch as yet.</P>
<P>The Chri&s;tians, that common|ly bear that name, &s;ay, the <HI>Me&s;&s;ias</HI> was in times pa&s;t among his Di&s;ci|ples, and Followers, but he is &s;ince that, a&s;cended, and gone out of their &s;ight; but though he be not for the pre&s;ent with them, or among them, they yet expect his return: &s;o they are in expectation of him, as well as the Jews. The name Chri&s;tian, I would only be called by, as prefer|ing it, above all other names, pro|vided
<PB N="8" REF="6"> there be cau&s;e, and ground, why I &s;hould be &s;o called. Th<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">re are three &s;orts of them, that are &s;o called.</P>
<P N="1">1. Such as have the true rea&s;on, and ground of that name, that &s;ame <GAP DESC="foreign">, that anointing, <HI>which is truth, and no lye,</HI> in them&s;elves. To the&s;e Chri&s;t is come, and in them lives; but &s;uch for the mo&s;t part, that are indeed &s;o, are rarely called &s;o; but by &s;ome other names of reproach, among which, perhaps, nay without doubt this name of <HI>Quaker</HI> is one.</P>
<P N="2">2. The &s;econd &s;ort of People, called Chri&s;tians, are &s;uch Chri&s;tians, as this Author &s;eems to be, even zea|lous, well-meaning Zealots (as they write and talk now adays) zealous after, and according to the Letter on|ly: as zealous for outward things, relating to the Chri&s;tians; as the
<PB N="9" REF="6"> Jews were of old, and even at this day. The outward Sabbath, the outward Sermon, the outward Word and Meetings, the outward Forms of Bapti&s;m, and the Supper: Chri&s;t without them, long ago, not yet come to them. Upon the&s;e outwardne&s;&s;es, they &s;tand, build, hope and tru&s;t: as the Jews of old did, upon their outward forms, of Per&s;ons, and Ser|vices: as <HI>Mo&s;es,</HI> the Sabbath, Cir|cumci&s;ion, the Temple, <HI>&amp;c.</HI> And becau&s;e of their Zeal to the&s;e things: They Crucified Chri&s;t, Stoned <HI>Ste|phen,</HI> and did as great mi&s;chief to the followers of them, as was po&s;&s;ible: yea they thought, they did God good &s;ervice, to kill them.</P>
<P>But who have been the imitators of them in our days, to &s;peak nothing now of the times before?</P>
<P N="1">1. In <HI>O. E.</HI> Was there not a way
<PB N="10" REF="7"> found out by devout men, in their Ignorance and Zeal, after the Letter, not only to impri&s;on, but to Stigma|ti&s;e &s;ome, for Bla&s;phemers, which were indeed found to be true Chri&s;ti|ans; and you may remember, what was done to the&s;e people, in the days of <HI>O. P.</HI> Who told the great A&s;&s;em|bly then, there were a certain de&s;pi|cable People, who like the Serpent, nibled at the Heel of the Govern|ment, of whom yet, there was no great cau&s;e of fear, meaning this very People, again&s;t whom, Laws obliquely were made, cruel, and bad, and accordingly put in execu|tion; but the&s;e People proved in|deed (as was &s;ugge&s;ted) <HI>Jacob's (i. e.)</HI> Supplanters of that Generation of Men, that were only right and pure in their own eyes.</P>
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<P>Let me al&s;o remember you a lit|tle of the &s;ufferings of <HI>J. N.</HI> of|ten mentioned in this Book, a mat|ter, will never be forgotten. The whole power then of <HI>E.</HI> yea, of <HI>S.</HI> and <HI>J.</HI> which did then con&s;i&s;t of Per|&s;ons cho&s;en, as was &s;uppo&s;ed of the mo&s;t wi&s;e, and able, out of the three Nations, all, or mo&s;t of them of the highe&s;t note, of this &s;ort of Pro|fe&s;&s;ors: they &s;ate on his Tryal and Examination, no le&s;s than thirteen days, without any intermi&s;&s;ion: ma|king an Order, that nothing el&s;e &s;hould intervene, till the bu&s;ine&s;s of <HI>J. N.</HI> &s;hould be ended; and then at la&s;t, having upon the mat|ter, found little or nothing again&s;t
<PB N="12" REF="8"> him,<NOTE N="*" PLACE="marg">Although it's true that the greate&s;t part of his Friends, called Qua|kers, were di&s;&s;atisfied, and troubled, concern|in him; as looking on him then clouded, and to have given advantage to the per&s;ecuting Spi|rit, by his being too Pa&s;&s;i<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">e, in not rejecting, or te&s;tifying again&s;t a few &s;hatter-brain'd &s;illy Women, who fooli&s;hly too mmch admired him; how-be-it he afterward coming to &s;ome &s;ence thereof cond<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">mn'd it, But this did not &s;pring from the Barbarous actions of his Per&s;ecutors (who unju&s;tly de&s;ign|ed to bring an Odium upon the Quakers) but from a &s;ecret Con|viction of truth in him|<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">elf.</NOTE> did yet &s;entence him to be Whipt at the Carts-t il, from <HI>We&s;tminster,</HI> to the <HI>Old Exchange</HI> in <HI>Cornhill;</HI> and there on a Scaf|fold, rai&s;ed to that purpo&s;e, in the pre&s;ence of many thou&s;ands, was Stigmati&s;ed with an hot Iron, and his Tongue bored through with the &s;ame: yea after that, to Ride with his Face towards the Hor&s;e-tail, into <HI>Bri&s;tol;</HI> and after all, kept a clo&s;e Pri&s;oner in <HI>Bridewell,</HI> in <HI>London</HI> for a long time; yet there were not a few,
<PB N="13" REF="8"> wi&s;e, and good men, Witne&s;&s;es and A&s;&s;ertors of his Innocency. The&s;e, and &s;uch like, were the Acts of de|vout men in <HI>O. E.</HI></P>
<P N="2">2. But in <HI>N. E.</HI> They did much after the &s;ame &s;ort, or wor&s;e, as did appear in their Severities, and Cru|elties again&s;t <HI>Samuel Gort<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">n,</HI> and tho&s;e with him, <HI>Roger Williams,</HI> and tho&s;e with him; the Woman <HI>Hutchin&s;on,</HI> and divers like minded with her; and at length, to &s;ome of the People called Quakers, of whom &s;ome were put to death, which yet was never in the&s;e la&s;t days done in <HI>O. E.</HI></P>
<P>Thus, SIR, you &s;ee the Rea&s;on, why the&s;e &s;ort of Chri&s;tians, may well be termed Jews: <HI>i. e.</HI> Profe&s;&s;ors, zea|lous of the Letter only, and the things without. Of the&s;e evils of theirs, I have not yet heard that they have repented, but go on wiping their
<PB N="14" REF="9"> mouths, and talking as if all know|ledg of Heavenly things were only found with them.</P>
<P>Sad was that word of the P&s;almi&s;t, &s;poken to tho&s;e Jews of old, <HI>Bow down their backs always. Let their Ta|ble become a &s;nare,</HI> &amp;c. fulfilled upon them in all ages: whom to deba&s;e is Gods de&s;ign, for they are in that mu|table &s;t<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">te, that is changable, and mu&s;t pa&s;s away, as it is &s;aid of the fir&s;t Heaven and fir&s;t Earth.</P>
<P>And this is the &s;econd Rea&s;on, why I &s;ay, that this Author, who calls him&s;elf a Chri&s;tian, is more meet to be called a Jew; and there|fore a Quaker; becau&s;e he, and tho&s;e of like mind with him, &s;tand yet up|on that Mount, to which it doth ap|pertain to Quake, Shake, and be Re|moved. At the &s;ight of this <HI>Mo&s;es</HI> him&s;elf, and all the outward Carnal
<PB N="15" REF="9"> <HI>I&s;rael</HI> trembled exceedingly: in&s;o|much, that the people prayed, that <HI>Mo&s;es,</HI> and <HI>not God might &s;peak unto them.</HI></P>
<P>Hence, SIR, I do not deny, but the name of Quaker did ari&s;e; for they were come to the Law of God, and that not in the Letter only, but in the life and &s;en&s;e of the full extent of it, feeling and undergoing the Judg|ment and Condemnation of it, where|by all their outward hopes and Con|fidence in the fle&s;h, or outward things, Services, or knowledges of things remote, and at a di&s;tance from them, fell from them as the untimely fruits of Fig-trees, &s;haken with the Wind: I my &s;elf have &s;een many in this &s;tate; but was &s;o far from finding fault with it, that it gladded my heart exceedingly to behold. It is the fir&s;t &s;tep towards the Kingdom of Heaven. That I doubt not to &s;ay, it were hap|py,
<PB N="16" REF="10"> not only for this Author, but for this whole Nation, e&s;pecially for tho&s;e of his mind, if they were come into this <HI>Quaking,</HI> Trembling Shaking State: As I believe in God, they will and mu&s;t. That that which cannot be &s;haken may come in&s;tead. Read <HI>Mal.</HI> 4.4, 5, 6. compared with <HI>Heb.</HI> 12. the la&s;t.</P>
<P>And this is the Rea&s;on why I judge this Author, is rather to be termed a <HI>Quaker</HI> than a Chri&s;tian, becau&s;e he is in &s;uch a &s;tate that mu&s;t pa&s;s away, and be removed: Whereof he more than &s;eems to have an inward &s;en&s;e and fear, as he manife&s;ts &s;ufficiently by his clamour; for if his own Hou&s;e, or Building were &s;ure, firm and &s;afe, what need he fear, as he doth, the &s;haking of it?</P>
<P N="3">3. There are a third &s;ort of men, that will needs be called Chri&s;tians
<PB N="17" REF="10"> too, that are mo&s;t of all unworthy of it, and mo&s;t of all remote from being &s;o; that live the life rather of Bea&s;ts, than Men, much le&s;s Chri&s;tians, that not only live in, but glory in their Heatheni&s;m and Prophane&s;s; Men of corrupt minds, debauch'd and wicked men, <HI>who&s;e glory is their &s;hame, who&s;e God is their belly;</HI> who wholly mind earthly and peri&s;hable things; and even in word, make a mock of all appearance of Religion: yet even many of tho&s;e are more mild and mer|ciful to the fir&s;t &s;ort of Chri&s;tians, than tho&s;e la&s;t de&s;cribed, As the Gen|tiles of old, that were of &s;uch &s;ort of men, heard that very word gladly, that was rejected of the devout Jews, and per&s;ecuted by them whence 'tis &s;aid that <HI>Jo&s;eph</HI> fled with the young Child Je&s;us, and his Mother into <HI>Aegypt</HI> from the Jews; as <HI>Jo&s;eph</HI> in the Type, did from his Brethren. And 'tis &s;aid, <HI>Out of Aegypt have I called my
<PB N="18" REF="11"> Son.</HI> It is &s;afer to have ones Conver|&s;ation among the unclean, loo&s;e and Prophane men, than with the petu|lent, angry, fierce and cruel, &s;uch as the Apo&s;tle bids beware of. And if you will receive it, this is the <HI>earth</HI> that many times <HI>helps the Woman,</HI> the Per&s;ecuted and afflicted Church. For this cau&s;e Chri&s;t was accounted by the Phari&s;ees, as a Friend of Publicans and Sinners.</P>
<P N="2">2. But Secondly, It is to me appa|rent, that he whom this Author, in his book makes to bear the name of Chri&s;tian. The Chri&s;tian I fir&s;t de&s;cri|bed, and I will give you for it the&s;e following Rea&s;ons.</P>
<P N="1">1. He is &s;aid to have God E&s;&s;enti|ally with him, yea in him: and that this God is Chri&s;t him&s;elf, and the Holy Spirit. And this is the <HI>Light within,</HI> and this Light is God, or Chri&s;t, or the Spirit; yea,
<PB N="19" REF="11"> that this Light is in every man. But how? not manife&s;t in all men alike. 'Tis indeed in all men, as a Trea&s;ure hid in the field of mans heart; found of &s;ome, others mu&s;t dig for it before they find it. 'Tis the Light that &s;hin|eth in the Darkne&s;s, which the Dark|ne&s;s comprehendeth not: for how can it, it being the only ob&s;curity of it, or that which ob&s;cureth it? And what is this Darkne&s;s? &s;urely no o|ther than Sin, Error, and unbelief, <HI>&amp;c.</HI> The Light is that of which Saint <HI>Peter</HI> &s;peaks, A Light that &s;hineth in the dark corner of mans heart. To which every man &s;hall do well to give heed.</P>
<P>There is no word &s;o frequent among the&s;e People as this, <HI>the Light within:</HI> not but that it hath other names, yea, without number; but this &s;eems for good rea&s;on to have the precedency: Why? becau&s;e it gives Light to all the
<PB N="20" REF="12"> re&s;t. The late A&s;&s;embly of Divines (&s;o called) having undertook to give a De&s;cription of God and his Attri|butes omitted this, <HI>God is Light,</HI> John 1.1. which &s;ome Learned and Wi&s;er Men than they, took notice of, with &s;ome reflection. This Light doth An|teced, and mu&s;t be fir&s;t. And there|fore of old time, they that were Bap|ti&s;ed, whether into the name of the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit; <HI>i. e.</HI> into the nature of either, were termed <HI>Illuminati,</HI> Enlightned men; for &s;o is the coming of the Lord, in e|very degree of his appearing: as <HI>Lightning, which &s;hines from one part of the Heaven,</HI> in the heart of man, <HI>to the other.</HI></P>
<P>Now by this <HI>Light,</HI> which is God him&s;elf, God manife&s;ts him&s;elf, and that in us, even in as many as give heed unto it, and follow the guidance of it, &s;o that in proce&s;s of time (mor|tifying
<PB N="21" REF="12"> in us what is oppo&s;ed unto it) our whole man is not only Luminous, but <HI>Lumen, Light it &s;elf. Ye were Darkne&s;s,</HI> (&s;aith the Apo&s;tle) <HI>but now ye are Light in the Lord.</HI> And thus Man becomes the Living Temple of the Living God, and the Living God a Living Temple to him: <HI>I, and my Father</HI> (&s;aith Chri&s;t) <HI>are one:</HI> not <HI>unus,</HI> but <HI>unum,</HI> &s;aith <HI>Beza,</HI> That they all (&s;peaking farther of his Di&s;ciples and followers) may be <HI>unum,</HI> one thing. God one thing with Chri&s;t, and Chri&s;t one thing with the Father in them, that are one Spirit with him; that &s;o it may come to pa&s;s (as mo&s;t right it is) that <HI>God</HI> in us <HI>be all in all.</HI></P>
<P>This without all doubt (that &s;o be|lieves and feels) is the Chri&s;tian, whom this Author wrongfully, if not wor&s;e, calls Quaker.</P>
<P N="2">2. I will add but one Rea&s;on more,
<PB N="22" REF="13"> which yet I have hinted already, why the name of a Chri&s;tian doth mo&s;t properly belong to him, whom this Author calls Quaker: not only from the Anointing, of which I &s;pake be|fore; but from a more particular con|&s;ideration of the name Chri&s;tian. It is &s;aid in the <HI>Acts of the Apostles,</HI> that the <HI>Di&s;ciples were called Chri&s;tians fir&s;t at Antioch,</HI> which was (as &s;ome think) then the Seat of War, or a Gari&s;on Town: here the Di&s;ciples of Je&s;us, fir&s;t &s;et up their Banner; and being concerned in another, a more Heavenly Warfare, were there fir&s;t called <GAP DESC="foreign">, that is to &s;ay, Chri&s;ts A&s;&s;es. This I find expre&s;&s;ed in a cer|tain Learned Author be|yond the Seas,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><GAP DESC="foreign"> A&s;&s;es. <GAP DESC="foreign"> Chri&s;t's A&s;&s;es.</NOTE> which I read and tran&s;lated above twenty years ago. The Title of the Book was, <HI>Argumen|tum Theologicum, de non gerendo gla|dio materiali, in Republica Chri&s;tiana,</HI>
<PB N="23" REF="13"> which is the opinion and mind of the&s;e People that are commonly cal|led Quakers, well they may be, and &s;ometimes have been beaten by Arm|ed Men; but they take up, nor u&s;e no &s;uch Weapons at all, as all the re&s;t of the outward Chri&s;tian World; yea, and tho&s;e that profe&s;s them&s;elves the Churches; and mo&s;t manife&s;tly and prodigiou&s;ly at this day do tho&s;e they call Prote&s;tants, (a reformed &s;ort of Chri&s;tians &s;o accounted) warring one again&s;t another, not only of late here in this Land; but &s;hamefully at this day beyond the Sea, confedera|ting with their profe&s;&s;ed Enemies: &s;o they heretofore reputed the Roman Catholicks; yea, they al&s;o, mutually one again&s;t the other, which their mo&s;t Holy Father (as they call the Pope of <HI>Rome</HI>) either overlooks, or wants Power, or Skill to prevent. All which turns to the &s;candal of the Chri&s;tian Religion, both among Jews, Turks, and Infidels.</P>
<PB N="24" REF="14">
<P>But the&s;e <GAP DESC="foreign">, whom this Au|thor calls Quakers, walk by a better Rule: for if they receive a blow on the one Cheek, they turn to them that give it, the other al&s;o, (&s;o they profe&s;s) patiently undergoing all manner of Affronts, Per&s;ecutions, Reproaches, and Revilings, return|ing not evil for evil, according to the Commandment of the everla&s;ting God, &s;o that they may truly enough be termed <GAP DESC="foreign">. Chri&s;ts A&s;&s;es: &s;o I find an antient Learned Author (<HI>Guliel. Paris)</HI> explaining that Text: go &s;aith Chri&s;t to &s;uch a place, to his Di&s;ciples, and you <HI>&s;hall find an A&s;s tyed, with a Colt, the Foal of an A&s;s bring them to me,</HI> and if the owner &s;ay, <HI>what do ye?</HI> tell him, <HI>the Ma&s;ter hath need of them;</HI> this he In|terprets of, fir&s;t the <HI>Jew,</HI> which was the A&s;s tyed <HI>viz.</HI> to outward ob&s;er|vations; but &s;econdly the Colt, the Foal of the A&s;s, of the <HI>Gentiles,</HI> who
<PB N="25" REF="14"> were &s;olute, and without Law: The&s;e (&s;aith Chri&s;t) bring to me, as ha|ving need of them to glorifie his name among them both: on the&s;e he rides in triumph, as (&s;omtimes he did in a Figure) into the Heavenly <HI>Jeru|&s;alem,</HI> according to the Prophecy of <HI>Zachariah, behold your King cometh meekly, Riding upon an A&s;s, and upon a Colt, the Foal of an A&s;s: He is just having Salvation, he &s;hall cut off the Charriot,</HI> &amp;c. that is, he &s;hall after &s;uch a <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">anner cau&s;e Warrs to cea&s;e in all Lands, which mu&s;t certainly be, by &s;uch &s;ort of Chri&s;tians as the&s;e now de&s;cribed, that bear Chri&s;t about with them in their mortal Bo|dies, &amp; for the &s;ake of him alone, they undergo all contradictions of Gain|&s;ayers, following their Lord, as <HI>Sa|rah did Abraham, calling him Lord, and are not afraid of any amazement.</HI> It was &s;aid of old to &s;ome in di&s;tre&s;s at Sea, <HI>Cae&s;arem portuunt,</HI> having <HI>Cae&s;ar</HI>
<PB N="26" REF="15"> with them in the Ship, they need not fear: So it may be much more truly &s;aid of the&s;e, <HI>Chri&s;tum portant,</HI> they bear about Chri&s;t with them: for &s;o the antient Chri&s;tians by the old Fa|thers were called <HI>Dei-feri, Chri&s;ti-feri, Sancti-feri, Templi-feri,</HI> that they were &s;uch that bore about with them, yea in them, God, Chri&s;t, the Holy Spirit, and were the living Temples of the living God. This Te&s;timony was given even by <HI>Pline</HI> to the Chri|&s;tians in his time, that they bore a|bout God in their Con&s;ciences; which indeed is no other, than the advice of the Apo&s;tle, 1. <HI>Cor.</HI> 6. <HI>ult. Portate igiter Deum in Corpore ve&s;tro; Bear or carry God in your Body:</HI> So in the Vulgar <HI>Latine.</HI> I met lately with an antient Citizen a Man of great Integrity, and Hone&s;ty, as well as of Note: who told me of the Preacher, late in <HI>Bi&s;hops-gate-&s;treet</HI> (lately put to &s;ilence by the Bi&s;hop
<PB N="27" REF="15"> of <HI>London:</HI> of which the cau&s;e will be manife&s;t hereafter:) this Man, &s;ome call'd a Quaker in a long Gown, the truth is to wonderment, he &s;eem|ed in the &s;piritual Warfare <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">o allarm the whole City of Profe&s;&s;ors. Like <HI>Gideons</HI> Barly Cake, leaping into the Camp of the <HI>Midianites</HI> (Men of corrupt minds and judgements, as the word &s;eems to import) being as it were a&s;leep in their mi&s;taken judge|ments, and per&s;wa&s;ions (as they &s;peak) this Man (&s;aid he) Inter|preted the third Commandment to his great content, thus: <HI>Thou &s;halt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain;</HI> he read it thus: thou &s;halt not <HI>bear,</HI> or <HI>carry</HI> the <HI>name</HI> of <HI>the Lord thy God in vain.</HI> Thou &s;halt bear his name <HI>i. e.</HI> his Image, Na|ture, and Li<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">ene&s;s, and not a bare empty name only, which they that do, do it in vain, and therefore &s;hall not be held guiltle&s;s.</P>
<PB N="28" REF="16">
<P>This Sir, is the &s;econd rea&s;on. I might name many more, why the&s;e People whom this Author calls Qua|kers, may be more rightly than he, called Chri&s;tians; but this may &s;uf|fice for a Letter. I will conclude, in giving an&s;wer to one great que&s;tion.</P>
<P><HI>Object.</HI> Are the People called Quakers, the only true Chri&s;tians?</P>
<P><HI>An&s;.</HI> I &s;ay not &s;o, yea God for|bid, that I, or any other, &s;hould &s;ay &s;o: yet this I will be bold to &s;ay their form of words (if rightly weighed) have compared with others, the bet|ter &s;avor, being for the mo&s;t part, the words of God, and the holy Scrip|ture, which yet (I confe&s;s) may be pro&s;titued to an evil mind, and &s;om|times are. I wi&s;h it be not found &s;o in &s;ome of the&s;e, as well as other Peo|ple. I am &s;ure it hath &s;o hapned.</P>
<P N="1"><PB N="29" REF="16">1. Heretofore among the Jews, who had for a time, the light of truth among them, in the mini&s;tration of <HI>Mo&s;es,</HI> and the Law; but they for&s;ook the true light, and life of God among them; but yet to &s;ecure their lu&s;t, and abominable &s;ins, they clave to the Letter, and form of words only; and &s;o there was left among them only, the dark, or dead Body of <HI>Mo&s;es,</HI> or the Jews, about which Body, <HI>Micha|el</HI> contended with the Devil. The Devil would have that dark and dead body, to be the true body of <HI>Mo&s;es;</HI> but <HI>Michael</HI> (who is interpreted, <HI>who is like God</HI>) with&s;tood him, make|ing it manife&s;t, by keeping the Com|mandment of God: that Chri&s;t and his Apo&s;tles, and true followers, were the true (Mi&s;tical) body and &s;uc|ce&s;&s;ors of <HI>Mo&s;es,</HI> the true <HI>I&s;rael (Sur|rogatus I&s;rael)</HI> the true body of <HI>Mo&s;es</HI> then, is the true body of Chri&s;t (My|&s;tical)</P>
<P N="2"><PB N="30" REF="17">2. But Satan had afterward a new Game to play; and upon other pre|tences, even that of the name of Chri&s;t him&s;elf: &s;o that there hath ri|&s;en as great &s;trife in the&s;e latter days, touching the true body of Chri&s;t (my&s;tical) as of the body of <HI>Mo&s;es</HI> be|fore, that it may be truly &s;aid, there is a dark, or dead body of Chri&s;t, or Chri&s;tians: yet no party of Men pro|fe&s;&s;ing that name, think, or believe &s;o of them&s;elves; but ca&s;t it &s;till upon each other, wringing &s;o the No&s;e, and forcing it to bleed: that they can|not, as they ought, &s;avor the truth, where e're they find it: for &s;ince the day-break of Divine Light and Love, many fell into parties, in &s;undry pla|ces, and times: &s;ome few of them a|bode a while, in &s;ome mea&s;ure of light, exceeding in &s;ome Divine truths, many of their foregoers; but when a greater, and a more clear light, was pre&s;ented to them, and the day
<PB N="31" REF="17"> coming on, offence was taken, even by them that thought they had attain|ed to the be&s;t; and &s;o there came a|gain to be a dark, and dead body left behind in every party: as appears by the &s;tink and filth, proceeding from them, to the great offence of God, and his holy ones; but the morning-light more increa&s;ing, more offence was yet taken; yea, this very people have committed that fault: a greater light, more large, and full of Divine Love, hath &s;hined among them, than was among them at their fir&s;t gather|ing, which many of them dealt not kindly with, but &s;pake evil of that way, as judging nothing better, was yet to come; So that there is even a dead and a dark body of them, re&s;ting in the form, and glorying in their out|ward &s;eparation from others; and are many of them in the &s;ame condem|nation with other parties, being but a party them&s;elves, and &s;o not (as they ought) to be impartial.</P>
<PB N="32" REF="18">
<P>The great Adver&s;ary of this people hath by di&s;gui&s;e done them great hurt, and made &s;poil of many good things among them. But this is enough for a Letter, and more than, if it &s;hould be made publick, I &s;hould have thanks for: but this, according to my weak power and skill, I have writ to &s;tand between the Accu&s;er, and the Accu|&s;ed; and &s;ome what to alleviate tho&s;e deep and fal&s;e A&s;pertions and Reflect|ions ca&s;t upon the&s;e innocent people, who have &s;tood their Oppo&s;ers in &s;o great &s;tead, &s;tanding in the front in the time of the hotte&s;t Per&s;ecution: like men of might, or of God; bear|ing with much long &s;uffering and Pa|tience, all manner of Contumely, Reproach and Contradiction, when the&s;e their Oppo&s;ers hid their head; yet now in the warm Sun of Liberty, unworthily come forth to revile them, and if po&s;&s;ible, to continue the Per&s;e|cution again&s;t them. This (as the Pro|phet
<PB N="33" REF="18"> &s;peaks, in like ca&s;e) they &s;hould not do; but rather indeed bow to that meek mind and Spirit among them: for to the meek of the Earth (&s;uch are many of them I am well a&s;&s;ured) is the Promi&s;e made, <HI>Mat.</HI> 5. The&s;e in due time &s;hall be called by another name than hitherto they have been; even the <HI>name of the Lord their God, and David their King,</HI> (which imports as much as <HI>Love</HI> and <HI>Peace</HI>) which God effect, <HI>Amen.</HI></P>
<P>But this, and the whole, I leave to your further Ob&s;ervation, and re|main,</P>
<CLOSER><SALUTE>SIR,</SALUTE>
<SIGNED><HI>Your,</HI> &amp;c.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
</DIV1>
<DIV1 TYPE="postscript">
<HEAD>Po&s;t-&s;cript.</HEAD>
<P>MAny years &s;ince, when the&s;e People were in their greate&s;t Lu&s;tre and &s;ufferings, I writ the&s;e Ver&s;es, or Rhimes of them, which,
<PB N="34" REF="19"> herewith I &s;end you, &s;hewing the thoughts I then had of them.</P>
<Q><L>Lo what work the di&s;pi&s;ed Quakers make?</L>
<L>The Heavens and Earth through their Sufferings quake:</L>
<L>Ye &s;turdy Oaks, and lofty Cedar Trees</L>
<L>This Shrub's more fixt than ye, now all men &s;ees.</L>
<L><HI>Dan</HI>'s a Serpent, and bites the Hor&s;es heels,</L>
<L>The Rider's overturn'd and Judg|ment feels.</L>
<L>A voice was heard in <HI>Rama,</HI> Weep and Cry,</L>
<L>For <HI>Rachel</HI> hath her Children lo&s;t, and why?</L>
<L><HI>Herod</HI> was fell and angry that a King,</L>
<L>Such tydings to him did the Wi&s;e-men bring,</L>
<L>Should from the lea&s;t of <HI>Judah</HI>'s Cities come,</L>
<L>And in the mid&s;t of his, have a King|dome.</L>
<PB N="35" REF="19">
<L>A day to judge the Earth is come. The Wi&s;e</L>
<L>Men from the Ea&s;t have &s;een his Star ari&s;e.</L>
<L>Ye Shepherds of the mi&s;-informed Flocks</L>
<L>Tho&s;e are no Gods, but Idol Blocks</L>
<L>Whom ye adore for &s;uch. Awake and come</L>
<L>And &s;ee, if ye have eyes, the cleanly Room</L>
<L>Where Je&s;us with his Mother <HI>Mary</HI> lie</L>
<L>Swaddled up, in the Quakers My&s;tery:</L>
<L>For who is born, I it avouch and vow</L>
<L>The Oath of God, which none may di&s;|alow.</L>
<L>No Oath hence-forward, needeth to be &s;worn,</L>
<L>He that's the Truth of all, is Christ new-borne.</L></Q>
</DIV1>
<DIV1 TYPE="postscript">
<HEAD>A Post-&s;cript to the Reader. <HI>By</HI> R. B. <HI>Ph.</HI></HEAD>
<P>I Mu&s;t needs confe&s;s, that I was greatly &s;urprized with the Report
<PB N="36" REF="20"> of the Printing of this Letter (&s;uch as it is) it being done, wholly with|out my knowledge: When I heard of it, I made &s;earch after it; and ha|ving (with &s;ome difficulty) got one, I found it the &s;ame I had Writ|ten a while &s;ince, at the coming forth of that Book it reflects on; and mu&s;t needs own all in it; except the Errata's in the Printing, and that in the Margin, touching <HI>J. N.</HI> which I Writ not; which in this &s;econd Edition (which the Printer hath thought meet to make) is Corrected.</P>
<P><HI>Obj.</HI> 1. But you wi<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">l &s;ay, how came it to be Printed?</P>
<P><HI>I an&s;wer,</HI> having kept a Copy of it, being occa&s;ionally in di&s;cour&s;e about the&s;e People. A certain Per|&s;on (eminent in the World) pro|duced many Papers Writ again&s;t them. Another pre&s;ent, whom I never &s;aw before or &s;ince, &s;pake ra|ther in favor of them, with whom I concur'd. Upon which, the fir&s;t be|ing
<PB N="37" REF="20"> diverted by other Company and di&s;cour&s;e, I took occa&s;ion to Read it to this latter; who asked me why I did not Print it? I &s;aid no; I &s;hall not: but &s;ith it liketh you &s;o well, take it to you; and do with it what you will. And now after two years well nigh, have &s;een it. (Upon the account of the late Di&s;putes I &s;up|po&s;e) abroad in Print. But what I have further to &s;ay of, and to, this People, as to their pre&s;ent State, Practi&s;e, and Conver&s;ation; I referr them to the Letter I Writ <HI>to them</HI> &s;ome years &s;ince, Inclo&s;ed in one to <HI>G. R.</HI> a principal Man among them, to Communicate to the re&s;t.</P>
<P><HI>Obj.</HI> 2. It may be &s;aid, you have Writ and Printed heretofore, &s;evere|ly again&s;t this People, as in your Preface to Mr. <HI>Robert Rich</HI> his Letter.</P>
<P><HI>I an&s;wer,</HI> what I Writ, was in love to them, as therein is &s;ufficiently manife&s;t; though ill re&s;ented by &s;ome of them: for Love evidenceth
<PB N="38" REF="21"> it &s;elf, as well in &s;harp Reproofs, Cha&s;ti&s;ement, and Correction, as in countenancing, cherri&s;hing, and ju&s;tifying of the Per&s;on, Party, or thing it loves. But now upon the review of this Re-Printed Letter, I have thought meet to add to it, in brief.</P>
<P N="1">1. Somwhat touching that menti|oned in the &s;econd and third Pages. Where I &s;ay, <HI>That I had heard before of &s;uch a one as this Author &s;eems to be;</HI> but I &s;ay not, This Author was in|deed he; <HI>but &s;uch a one:</HI> for he that reported it to me, &s;aid it was the Preacher at &mdash; which &s;ince I un|der&s;tood to be <HI>J. F.</HI> and not&mdash; as I &s;uppo&s;ed, whom I knew. This <HI>J. F.</HI> hath Writ to the &s;ame purpo&s;e with <HI>J. H.</HI> though indeed to little purpo&s;e, having, as I &s;ince told him (meeting him at the Hou&s;e of a com|mon Friend) gone about, and about, and always without; never touching them, whom he is &s;o greatly offend|ed
<PB N="39" REF="21"> with. They in their Te&s;timony, remaining, in mean time &s;ecure, and &s;afe within, hid (it &s;eems from his eyes) as in the &s;ecret of the Almighty.</P>
<P N="2">2. Somwhat further touching the intent and &s;cope of this Letter; which is an Apologie in behalf of the Te&s;timony giver of this People, as though it were Peculiar to them, touching the Light within. That they that profe&s;s it, as the Chri&s;tians of old did, are as they were &s;aid to be, <HI>Acts</HI> 28.11. the Sect that is every where &s;poken again&s;t. I have therefore thought meet to tran&s;cribe &s;ome Te&s;timonies to it, both Antient and Modern.</P>
<P N="1">1. From tho&s;e of antient time; and fir&s;t from tho&s;e reputed <HI>Heathen,</HI> becau&s;e not of the vi&s;ible, or outward|ly con&s;tituted and profe&s;&s;ing Church, either that of old time of the <HI>Jews,</HI> or of the <HI>Chri&s;tians</HI> &s;ince. I find this Paragraph in <HI>John Taylor,</HI> who flou|ri&s;hed in <HI>Germany</HI> about the Year
<PB N="40" REF="22"> 1346. mentioned with honor by Mr. <HI>Fox</HI> in his Acts and Monuments, as he at whom <HI>Luther</HI> fir&s;t lighted his Candle, yet reproachfully reflected on &s;ometime &s;ince, by Mr. <HI>B</HI> late of <HI>Kidm.</HI></P>
<P><HI>Phylo&s;ophus quidam Alteri aeque Phylo&s;o|pho dignum Phylo&s;opho &s;ententiam depromp|&s;it; dicens, percepi quiddam in me re&s;plen|dens intellectui meo, quod equidem aliquid e&s;se experior, &s;ed quid &s;it inteligere nequeo. Videtur tamen mihi, &s;i id apprehendere po&s;&s;em omnem me veritatem per&s;pecturum; Cui alter ille Philo&s;ophus. Hoc ergo inquit Per&s;equere, Certus, quia &s;i apprehendere Potens, bonorum omnium Cumulum, &amp; ip&s;am quoque Vitam eternam obtinebis.</HI> Which is in effect, thus in <HI>Engli&s;h</HI> A Certain Philo&s;opher, gave forth this Sentence worthy a philo&s;o|pher to another Philo&s;opher like him&s;elf, &s;aying, I perceive &s;omething &s;hining forth in or to my under&s;tanding, &s;ome (ex|cellent) thing indeed I find it to be, but what it is I cannot well comprehend, or un|der&s;tand: Yet it &s;eemeth to me, if I were able to comprehend, and under&s;tand it, I &s;hould attain to the &s;ight and perception of all Truth. To whom, that other Philo|&s;opher replyed, Follow that on, being a&s;&s;ured, that if thou can&s;t attain it, thou
<PB N="41" REF="22"> &s;halt reap the whole &s;umme of all good things, even eternall life it &s;elf.</P>
<P>Secondly from one of tho&s;e in the vi&s;ible and outwardly Con&s;tituted Church: as that Father (as they &s;peak) Great St. <HI>Au&s;tin.</HI> Thus in his own words: <HI>Sen&s;i quiddam in me resplendens animae meae, quod &s;i perficeretur in me, dicire non dubitarem, id vitam aeternam e&s;se, occultat &s;e, &amp; nihilo|minus manife&s;tat &s;e, furtine venit, qua&s;i omnia animae furaturum, ablatu<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">umque mani|fe&s;tat &s;e, indicat ex parte, ut per hoc ani|mam alliceat, provocet, &amp; post &s;e trahet, imo &amp; auferat &s;ibi ip&s;i.</HI> In <HI>Engli&s;h</HI> thus: I have perceived &s;omething &s;hining and &s;tir|ring in my mind or Soul; which, if it were perfected, I would not doubt to &s;ay, it were eternal Life it &s;elf. It hides it &s;elf indeed, yet neverthele&s;s it manife&s;ts it &s;elf: it &s;teals in upon me, as if it would rob me of all that I have in my mind: it di&s;covers it &s;elf (fir&s;t) but in part, that &s;o it may allure, provoke, and draw, yea and take away my mind or &s;oul even quite with it unto it &s;elf.</P>
<P N="2">2. Add hereunto the Te&s;timony of &s;ome in old time in the vi&s;ible profe&s;&s;ing Church, touching &s;ome of tho&s;e without it: As fir&s;t, That of <HI>Clemens Alexandrinus:</HI> Thus in
<PB N="42" REF="23"> <HI>Latin; Philo&s;ophia Graecos Paedagogi more ducebat, &s;icut Lex Hebreos ad Christum.</HI> Philo&s;ophy was the School-mi&s;tris to the <HI>Greeks</HI> or <HI>Gentiles,</HI> as the Law was to the <HI>Jews,</HI> leading them both to Chri&s;t. 2dly, That of <HI>Ju&s;tin Martyr</HI> (&s;o called) becau&s;e he &s;uffered Martyrdome for the Chri&s;tian Religion, a very Antient Martyr, in his A|pology for Chri&s;tians, writes more boldly. Thus; <HI>Qui cum ratione vixerunt Chri&s;tia|ni &s;unt, etiam&s;i Athis habiti &s;int; ut</HI> Socra|tes, <HI>&amp;</HI> Heraclitus <HI>apud</HI> Graecos. They that live according to the Principles of (Right) Rea&s;on, are Chri&s;tians, though they have been, or may be accounted Athei&s;ts; as <HI>Socrates,</HI> and <HI>Heraclitus</HI> among the <HI>Greeks.</HI> Where by Rea&s;on (without doubt) this Author means the <GAP DESC="foreign"> the Word, <HI>John</HI> 1.1. which <HI>Era&s;mus</HI> and &s;ome others tran&s;late <HI>Ratio, Rea&s;on,</HI> of which <HI>Paul</HI> (beyond all) &s;peaks, <HI>Rom.</HI> 10. &s;aying, even of all men, both Jews and Gentiles, <HI>v.</HI> 18. <HI>What, have they not heard? yes verily: their &s;ound (viz.</HI> of the Apo&s;tles) <HI>is gone forth unto all the Earth, and their words unto the ends of the World.</HI> For it reached to and concerned all men, and is indeed every where, though hid from mo&s;t, becau&s;e un|regarded, di&s;obeyed, unbelieved, and re|jected of them.</P>
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<P>But that I may not be too tedious, I will add but the Te&s;timony of a late Mo|dern Writer, touching this matter, ex|pre&s;t in a few Quaeries.</P>
<P N="1">1. <HI>Quaer.</HI> Whether every man do not find &s;omething in him that is <HI>pure,</HI> which he may perceive to be &s;uch, by oppo&s;ing the evil, and moving to the good, according to that of the Poet, <HI>Every man hath &s;ome|thing of God in him.</HI></P>
<P N="2">2. Whether that which is pure, which is no other than the Light of Chri&s;t, and Spirit of God, ought not to be believed in, followed, and obeyed?</P>
<P N="3">3. Whether our comfort &s;tand ground|ed in the obedience and following of that Light, or that only on which Chri&s;t hath done outwardly for us?</P>
<P N="4">4. Whether this Light and Spirit in us can be examined, or tryed by the Letter of the Scripture? Seeing he that is in the Iniquity or &s;in cannot judge truly of the Spirit, and the things thereof, either by or without the Scripture; but if the &s;ame Spirit be in us, which is the Key of the Scripture, then we may examine and judge by the Scriptures, according to our mea|&s;ure and growth, concerning the works of God within us.</P>
<P N="5"><PB N="44" REF="24">5. Whether the New birth in Chri&s;t be not two-fold, one after the fle&s;h, and the other after the Spirit, according to the &s;cope of 2 <HI>Cor.</HI> 5. but this &s;hall &s;uffice.</P>
<P><HI>Conclu&s;ion to the Reader.</HI> Notwith|&s;tanding all this, I do not (I &s;uppo&s;e) hereby declare my &s;elf to be a <HI>Quaker,</HI> as having, by the grace of God, no need &s;o to be; neither, as I under&s;tand, do the&s;e people own that name (at lea&s;t now) as their proper Stile and Character, being mo&s;t fixt and e&s;tabli&s;hed in their belief and Te&s;timony of Je&s;us. But what I have writ or done, hath been to &s;hew my hope and expectation, which I know is the hope and expectation of all good Chri&s;tians: That after all the&s;e Shakings, according to our daily Prayer, the Kingdom of God, that cannot be &s;haken may come, (a|mong us, and prevail in us and over us; yea, in and over the whole Land, from the highe&s;t to the lowe&s;t, wherein and where|by Righteou&s;ne&s;s and Peace, Truth and Love to the uniting of all in one Lord, and one God, every one in his order and place, may take place, to the con&s;olation of all) <HI>Wherefore let us have grace, whereby we may &s;erve God acceptably,</HI> with <HI>Reverence and Godly fear: for our God is a Con&s;uming fire.</HI></P>
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<HEAD>The Reader is de&s;ired to correct the&s;e gro&s;s Mi|&s;takes in this &s;econd Impre&s;&s;ion.</HEAD>
<P>PAge 18th. l. 14. left out the&s;e words after <HI>of,</HI> add. <HI>Quaker ought al&s;o of right to bear the name of,</HI> Chri&s;ti- p. 25. line the la&s;t, read <HI>portant.</HI> p. 35. l. 12. <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="1 letter">n&s;tead of <HI>Who</HI> read <HI>He.</HI> in the po&s;t-&s;cript p. 36. l. 14. &s;hould have been added after corrected <HI>and left out.</HI> for it was appointed by the Author and &s;o expected. that the marginal note touching <HI>J. N.</HI> &s;hould have been wholly left out. p. 39. line 24. for <HI>Jo<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="2 letters"> Tay|lor</HI> read <HI>John Taulerus</HI> p. 40. l. 14. for <HI>poteur</HI> read <HI><GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="MURP" EXTENT="2 letters">|tes.</HI> p. 41. l. 10. for <HI>furtine</HI> read <HI>furtive,</HI> p. 42. l. 11 for <HI>Athis</HI> read <HI>Athei.</HI> in the &s;ame page l. 17. put a Coma after <HI>where,</HI> and l. the 18th. after <GAP DESC="foreign"> put the the <HI>Word.</HI> p. 44. line 12. for <HI>most</HI> put in <HI>more.</HI></P>
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