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<P>PERSECUTION IMPEACHED, As a TRAYTOR again&s;t GOD, His LAWS and GOVERNMENT; And the Cau&s;e of the Antient MARTYRS <HI>Vindi|dicated,</HI> again&s;t the Cruelty inflicted upon them by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> in former dayes.</P>
<P>Being a BRIEF ANSWER To a BOOK, called Semper Iidem; Or, A Parallel of <HI>PHANATICKS, &amp;c.</HI> Lately Publi&s;hed by a <HI>Namele&s;s Author.</HI></P>
<P>Wherein is contained a Relation of the <HI>Martyrdom</HI> of many &s;uch as <HI>di&s;&s;ented</HI> from, and <HI>oppo&s;ed</HI> the Church of <HI>Rome;</HI> who are in the &s;aid Book villified and reproached, by the name and term of <HI>ANTIENT PHANATICKS.</HI></P>
<P>And this is &s;ent forth as an <HI>An&s;wer</HI> thereunto, to <HI>pur&s;ue</HI> it, <HI>appre|hend</HI> it, and <HI>condemn</HI> it, as a Pamphlet of Calumnies and Slan|ders again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> both of former and pre&s;ent dayes; who are all of them <HI>&s;corned</HI> in the &s;aid Book, The one as <HI>An|tient,</HI> and the other as <HI>Modern Phanaticks.</HI></P>
<P>Which is &s;ent abroad as a <HI>Warning</HI> to <HI>England,</HI> to beware of the Spirit of the <HI>Church of Rome,</HI> le&s;t it exalt it &s;elf in <HI>Cruel Per&s;e|cution</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> and all that differ from it; Elidad Baanah. Publi&s;hed for that end, by <HI>Robert Wil&s;on.</HI></P>
<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed for <HI>R. W.</HI> in <HI>Martins Le Grand,</HI> 1661.</P>
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<HEAD>PERSECUTION Impeached, <HI>as a Traytor again&s;t GOD, His Laws and Government: And the Cau&s;e of the</HI> Ancient MARTYRS vindicated, <HI>again&s;t the Cruelty inflicted upon them by the</HI> Papi&s;ts <HI>in former dayes.</HI></HEAD>
<P>HOw great and mi&s;erable hath been that <HI>Darkne&s;s</HI> and <HI>Ignorance,</HI> which hath over&s;pread the Nations and Kingdoms of the World &s;ince the Apo&s;tles dayes! And how manifold is <HI>that Error</HI> into which many have been fallen, even as into <HI>a Snare of de&s;truction!</HI> And how woful is that <HI>Strife, Divi&s;ion</HI> and <HI>Contention</HI> about Religion that hath highly abounded among the Chri&s;tian People! (&s;o called) For the whole <HI>Chri&s;tendom</HI> have been divided and in oppo&s;ition one part again&s;t another about the <HI>true God</HI> and <HI>his Wor&s;hip,</HI> and concerning the <HI>knowledge</HI> of <HI>Salvation</HI> by <HI>Je&s;us Chri&s;t;</HI> And <HI>di|vers kinds</HI> of <HI>Religion, Church-Government,</HI> and <HI>Practices</HI> of <HI>Or|dinances,</HI> of <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip</HI> have been extant in the World; and <HI>Nations</HI> and <HI>Countries</HI> have been all in <HI>Divi&s;ion, Strife</HI> and <HI>Contention</HI> about the&s;e matters, and have been al&s;o <HI>per&s;ecuting</HI> one another violently unto <HI>Bonds</HI> and <HI>Death,</HI> for and becau&s;e of <HI>difference in judgment</HI> and <HI>practice</HI> concerning <HI>Spiritual things, <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI></HI> again&s;t <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> and <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> again&s;t <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> and <HI>one &s;ort</HI> of Chri&s;tians (&s;o called) again&s;t <HI>another,</HI> and the men of &s;uch a <HI>Judgment,</HI> and <HI>Faith,</HI> and <HI>Way</HI> of Religion, have been <HI>per&s;ecuting</HI> and &s;eeking <HI>to de&s;troy all</HI> that have been <HI>contrary minded</HI> to them; And thus have been the <HI>woful Divi&s;ions</HI> and <HI>evil Effects</HI> thereof in the World among Chri&s;tians, about <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip,</HI> and <HI>Religious matters;</HI> and this hath come to pa&s;s, becau&s;e of the <HI>&s;pirit of Error</HI> and <HI>Darkne&s;s</HI> that hath po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ed the minds of men &s;ince the falling away from the Truth, as it was once manife&s;t among the <HI>Apo&s;tles:</HI> And thus it is come to pa&s;s, becau&s;e of the <HI>erring</HI> from the <HI>Spirit of God,</HI> and becau&s;e that hath been wanting among&s;t men, therefore have people been <HI>divers,</HI> and <HI>divided</HI> about matters of Religion, each <HI>one &s;ort</HI>
<PB N="6" REF="4">following their own <HI>Inventions</HI> and <HI>Traditions</HI> of men, and al&s;o <HI>per&s;ecuting</HI> one another, and <HI>killing</HI> and <HI>impri&s;oning</HI> one another becau&s;e of the &s;ame; and all this, becau&s;e the <HI>Spirit of Truth</HI> hath not dwelt <HI>in the hearts</HI> of Chri&s;tians, as it did in the <HI>Apo|&s;tles,</HI> nor led, guided and taught them in <HI>true unity</HI> and <HI>fellow|&s;hip</HI> as it did the <HI>true Chri&s;tians</HI> in the dayes of old; And while the Spirit of Chri&s;t hath been wanting, and is not received in|to the heart, to <HI>mortifie, guide, rule</HI> and <HI>teach</HI> in all the wayes of God, and the whole exerci&s;e of Religion and Duty towards Him; and while there is any kind of <HI>impo&s;ing</HI> and <HI>forcing</HI> of <HI>Religion</HI> by <HI>Laws</HI> of men, upon <HI>penalties</HI> and <HI>forfeitures,</HI> and &s;etting up <HI>Wor&s;hip</HI> and <HI>Church-Government</HI> by that means, and in that way, without the <HI>immediate Teachings</HI> of the Spirit of Chri&s;t <HI>in the Con&s;cience,</HI> I &s;ay, while this hath been, and is con|tinued, nothing but <HI>Divi&s;ion, Strife, Contention, Per&s;ecution,</HI> and Nations and Peoples <HI>de&s;troying</HI> one another <HI>about Religion,</HI> hath been, is, or can be in the World among&s;t Chri&s;tians.</P>
<P>And of this &s;ame (to wit) of <HI>Divi&s;ion</HI> and <HI><HI>Contention</HI> about Religion,</HI> with the enmity of &s;uch as are &s;o <HI>divided one again&s;t another,</HI> to the per&s;ecuting and killing one of another that are contrary-minded, as it hath been brought forth in the World for Generations pa&s;t, we have here a &s;ufficient large Te&s;timo|ny, lately publi&s;hed in a Book called <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> or <HI>a Parallel of Phanaticks, &amp;c.</HI> wherein is made mention of what <HI>Strife</HI> and <HI>Contention</HI> there hath been in <HI>former dayes</HI> among the <HI>fal&s;e Chri|&s;tians,</HI> and how they have <HI>cruelly per&s;ecuted, burned</HI> and <HI>de&s;troyed</HI> one another <HI>in this Cau&s;e,</HI> only for and becau&s;e of the <HI>difference in matters of Judgment</HI> and <HI>Religious things;</HI> and the&s;e <HI>Per&s;ecu|tions</HI> and <HI>Cruelties</HI> effected contrary to the Example of Chri&s;t and his Doctrine, who hath exhorted to <HI>Love</HI> and <HI>Peace,</HI> and not to <HI>kill</HI> and <HI>de&s;troy;</HI> and that a man &s;hould <HI>love his Enemies,</HI> and not <HI>kill</HI> and <HI>de&s;troy</HI> them: contrary to which Doctrine the fal&s;e Chri&s;tians of all kinds have <HI>walked</HI> and <HI>acted</HI> &s;ince the days of the Apo&s;tles, who have been <HI>Apo&s;tatized</HI> and fallen from the <HI>very life and power of Godline&s;s,</HI> as held among the <HI>Primitive Saints,</HI> into <HI>forms</HI> and <HI>empty &s;hadows,</HI> being all in <HI>&s;trife</HI> one with another about &s;uch things, and have wanted the Spirit of Chri&s;t which &s;hould have <HI>led</HI> and <HI>guided</HI> into <HI>all Truth,</HI> and exerci&s;ed
<PB N="7" REF="4">them in the <HI>true Wor&s;hip</HI> of the <HI>true</HI> and <HI>living God,</HI> who is a <HI>Spirit,</HI> and <HI>is only truly wor&s;hipped <HI>in Spirit and Truth;</HI></HI> but out of <HI>this Spirit</HI> and <HI>Spiritual Wor&s;hip</HI> the fal&s;e Chri&s;tians have been <HI>erred,</HI> and &s;o all <HI>divided</HI> and in <HI>contention</HI> as afore&s;aid, and <HI>per&s;ecuting</HI> one another becau&s;e thereof, each <HI>one &s;ort</HI> ju&s;ti|fying their <HI>own way</HI> as right, and condemning that which hath differed as the <HI>wrong,</HI> and all as <HI>Hereticks,</HI> that have been otherwi&s;e minded.</P>
<P>But as concerning the &s;aid Book <HI>Semper Iidem, &amp;c.</HI> I would gladly <HI>animadvert</HI> &s;omething concerning it, and do intend to write a few things by way of <HI>an&s;wer</HI> thereunto, and this is the pre&s;ent occa&s;ion of my pre&s;ent work; for having met with the &s;aid <HI>Pamphlet,</HI> and peru&s;ing of it, I found <HI>divers Con&s;iderations</HI> on my &s;pirit to &s;end forth <HI>in an&s;wer,</HI> to pur&s;ue the &s;aid <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> up and down the World, till it return again unto the place from whence it came, (to wit) unto the <HI>bottomle&s;s Pit,</HI> out of which it lately aro&s;e; and in reading the &s;ame Book, I have principally ob&s;erved the <HI>mi&s;chievous end</HI> and &s;ecret <HI>evil in|tents</HI> of the <HI>namele&s;s Author,</HI> more than the matter it &s;elf con|tained; and though the <HI>Author</HI> be <HI>namele&s;s,</HI> yet is his <HI>nature</HI> and <HI>&s;pirit</HI> known by his Book; and for what end <HI>he hath concea|led his Name,</HI> I know not, except he was <HI>a&s;hamed</HI> of his work, and dur&s;t not authorize his Matter by his Name; but however the <HI>&s;pirit, end</HI> &amp; <HI>intent</HI> of the &s;aid <HI>nameles per&s;on</HI> is perceived and known, as much as any Tree can be di&s;tingui&s;hed by its Fruit, and he is of an <HI>envious di&s;po&s;ition</HI> of heart, and of <HI>malicious counte|nance,</HI> and in nature and &s;tock of the very de&s;cent of <HI>Cain:</HI> for his &s;pirit is of an evil con&s;titution, <HI>hot</HI> and <HI>fiery,</HI> and inclinable <HI>to de&s;troy all that are not like-minded with him&s;elf</HI> in the judgment of Religious matters, and his <HI>proceedings,</HI> and the <HI>end</HI> of his work, is of an <HI>intent</HI> and <HI>purpo&s;e</HI> wicked enough, if every <HI>Effect</HI> an&s;wer the <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> appearing, and be not diverted from the end propo&s;ed by the Author; and this I find by <HI>Calculation</HI> of his <HI>Birth,</HI> and the <HI>temper</HI> of his <HI>Spirit,</HI> and of the <HI>Time</HI> wherein his Book is <HI>publi&s;hed,</HI> and by the <HI>cau&s;e</HI> and <HI>end,</HI> and <HI>intent</HI> of the <HI>matter</HI> and <HI>manner</HI> of it, and by the <HI>effect</HI> that would follow, if the Author's <HI>Aim</HI> and <HI>Purpo&s;e</HI> were fulfilled: By all which I mu&s;t in true Judgment conclude from the <HI>appearance, dispo&s;ition,
<PB N="8" REF="5">temper</HI> and <HI>con&s;titution</HI> of the &s;pirit of the man, and from all <HI>Cau&s;es</HI> and <HI>Effects</HI> partaining to the &s;aid <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> That the Author thereof is indeed <HI>chiefly a Member of the Church of Rome</HI> (to wit) <HI>mo&s;tly <HI>a down-right Papi&s;t,</HI></HI> holding forth the <HI>Principles</HI> of <HI>Antichri&s;t,</HI> in perfect <HI>form</HI> and <HI>manner,</HI> for the perfect <HI>End</HI> and <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> of <HI>Per&s;ecution,</HI> even <HI>burning again in Smi<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="KEYERS" EXTENT="1 letter">hfield</HI> and <HI>el&s;ewhere,</HI> and <HI>killing</HI> and <HI>de&s;troying</HI> even <HI>all &s;orts</HI> of people under the &s;currilous reproachful name of <HI>Phanaricks,</HI> that are in judgment and practice of Profe&s;&s;ion, contrary to this man's way, and differing from the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> Religion: This, I &s;ay, I truly find to be the <HI>current</HI> and <HI>dispo&s;ition</HI> of the <HI>namele&s;s Author,</HI> and his proceedings in his method and matter of his <HI>Semper Iidem, &amp;c.</HI> and I have taken in hand at this time to an&s;wer him a little, and to unfold &s;ome of the dangerous Intents to|wards <HI>England,</HI> which may inhabit and &s;ecretly lodge in that &s;pirit of the Church of <HI>Rome,</HI> according to the current of the &s;aid Book, and from which I have ju&s;t cau&s;e to &s;uppo&s;e the thing that I partly a&s;&s;ert, even That the &s;pirit which hath en|dited the &s;aid Book, waits its opportunity to effect its <HI>End,</HI> and to <HI>revive</HI> and <HI>renew <HI>fire</HI></HI> and <HI>faggor</HI> again, to the <HI>extingui&s;hing</HI> and <HI>de&s;truction</HI> of all <HI>that differ,</HI> and are <HI>contrary-minded</HI> in <HI>Principles</HI> and <HI>Practices</HI> of <HI>Religion</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip</HI> from them&s;elves; for the <HI>fury</HI> and <HI>reproach</HI> of the &s;aid &s;pirit that endited and pub|li&s;hed <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> reacheth not only to others whom they may call, <HI>more Phanatical,</HI> as <HI>Quakers, Anabapri&s;ts, &amp;c.</HI> but to the very <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> them&s;elves, even to all what&s;oever that differ from the Church of <HI>Rome;</HI> for &s;uch by the <HI>namele&s;s Author</HI> are no le&s;&s;e than termed and vilified by that &s;cornful term <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> di&s;tingui&s;hed by the name of <HI>ancient</HI> and <HI>mo|dern,</HI> as hereafter I &s;hall make it appear.</P>
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<HEAD>And fir&s;t, <HI>I &s;hall &s;hew a little concerning the &s;ignification of the term <HI>Phauatick,</HI> as of late u&s;ed; and the fir&s;t u&s;e of it in the&s;e late dayes; and the exchange of the word from one &s;ort to another; and in who&s;e mouths it now remains; and who are now &s;o accounted.</HI></HEAD>
<P N="1">1. Not to di&s;cu&s;s the <HI>Etymologie</HI> and &s;ignification of the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> in it &s;elf, and what its <HI>original</HI> is, and from whence derived, this I &s;hall not now proceed to do, as being not
<PB N="9" REF="5">needful to my occa&s;ion, though there is difference of Judge|ment among&s;t &s;ome in this matter; and &s;ome &s;ay the original and root of the word is from <HI>Phanos,</HI> a <HI>fal&s;e god;</HI> and &s;ome &s;ay otherwi&s;e: and they are not in <HI>unity</HI> among them&s;elves that do mo&s;t of all u&s;e the word, concerning the <HI>derivation</HI> and <HI>&s;ig|nification</HI> of the word in it &s;elf: Neither &s;hall I &s;pend time to &s;eek out a Judgment, and to give it in this ca&s;e, as counting the <HI>recompence</HI> that can be obtained, not an&s;werable <HI>to &s;uch a work;</HI> but the <HI>&s;ignification</HI> of it, as now u&s;ed at this day among people, is this; <HI>All that differ in Judgment and Practice of Re|ligion and Wor&s;hip from the generality of People, and cannot conform unto &s;uch way of Religion as generally practi&s;ed in the Land, <HI>&s;uch</HI></HI> are called <HI>Phanaticks:</HI> and this <HI>&s;ignification</HI> the word bears among&s;t people, as now practi&s;ed, <HI>&s;uch as meet together to <HI>preach</HI></HI> and <HI><HI>pray</HI> out publick places,</HI> and cannot either out of know|ledge or con&s;cience <HI>conform</HI> to the <HI>Publick Way of Wor&s;hip</HI> held forth, &s;uch are called <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and reproached by that name, from the mouths of <HI>Scorners</HI> and <HI>Revilers</HI> of the wayes of God, (numbers of whom do now abound) and al&s;o &s;uch who make Con&s;cience of their wayes, and cannot <HI>run on</HI> in the wayes of <HI>Iniquity,</HI> in <HI>Lying</HI> and <HI>Drunkenne&s;s,</HI> and <HI>&s;uch like,</HI> but have been and are more <HI>&s;ober,</HI> and do walk more <HI>in meekne&s;s</HI> and the <HI>fear of God,</HI> and have <HI>&s;eparated them&s;elves</HI> from the <HI>evil com|pany of men,</HI> and from all <HI>evil wayes,</HI> and could not run into the &s;ame <HI>exce&s;s of Riot</HI> with the multitude: Such have been called of the&s;e late dayes, <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> by the <HI>Scorners Genera|tion.</HI> And thus much in brief of the &s;ignification of the word, as u&s;ed of the&s;e late dayes.</P>
<P N="2">2. As for the fir&s;t u&s;e of the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> in this Age, it is but of very late u&s;e, for till within the&s;e <HI>two years,</HI> or le&s;&s;e, we had very little or no u&s;e of the word <HI>Phanatick,</HI> until about the time of then <HI>General Monk's Army</HI> coming out of <HI>Scotland</HI> to <HI>London,</HI> when the Army was <HI>new model'd,</HI> and many of the <HI>Sectaries</HI> (&s;o called) were <HI>turned out</HI> of places, about the Ele|venth Month, 1659. then began the common u&s;e of this word <HI>Phanatick,</HI> and the <HI>Anabapti&s;ts,</HI> and &s;uch as were turned out of the Army, and all called by the name of <HI>Sectaries,</HI> that were different from the publick way of Wor&s;hip, then held out
<PB N="10" REF="6">(which was for the mo&s;t part of it <HI>Presbyterian</HI>) the&s;e were cal|led <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and then the u&s;e of the word &s;o common began about this time (as I have &s;aid) as now practi&s;ed in our dayes; for the <HI>rage</HI> and <HI>indignation</HI> of the then <HI>Presbyterians</HI> (&s;o called) and that party, was &s;uch again&s;t the <HI>Anabapti&s;ts,</HI> and &s;uch as differed in <HI>Judgment</HI> and <HI>Practice</HI> from them, that &s;cornfully they called them in deri&s;ion <HI>Phanaticks:</HI> and, &s;o far as I know, this was the time and occa&s;ion of the fir&s;t u&s;e of this word, as of late practi&s;ed; or at lea&s;t it was the fir&s;t time and occa&s;ion of my ob&s;ervation of the common u&s;e of the word <HI>Phana|tick.</HI></P>
<P N="3">3. And now as concerning the exchange of the <HI>word,</HI> from <HI>one</HI> &s;ort of People to <HI>another,</HI> and how it hath been u&s;ed by di|vers &s;orts of people again&s;t others, that have differed from them&s;elves, this is al&s;o ob&s;ervable; That the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> hath not &s;o much proper relation to any one &s;ort of people, as that it is only perfectly true to one &s;ort of people more than to others; but the properne&s;s of the word <HI>Phanatick,</HI> is only as Scorners &amp; Revilers will wickedly u&s;e it, and as they will turn it to this &s;ort of people, or to the other, to <HI>&s;corn</HI> them by it whom they have an enmity again&s;t, and whom they li&s;t to abu&s;e by re|proaching: And this is the end of the u&s;e of the word at this day, and not of any <HI>truth</HI> or <HI>verity</HI> in it to any people, but on|ly it's u&s;ed as a term of <HI>reproach</HI> and <HI>&s;corning,</HI> by the mouths of ungodly men again&s;t &s;uch as differ from them and their wayes, though they are better in practice of <HI>Life</HI> and <HI>Conver|&s;ation</HI> than them&s;elves: And the term hath been changed <HI>divers times,</HI> and <HI>divers &s;orts</HI> of people <HI>reproached by it</HI> by others, &s;ince its fir&s;t u&s;e: as fir&s;t, The people called <HI>Presbyterians</HI> (as afore|&s;aid) they u&s;ed it towards &s;uch as were otherwi&s;e-minded than them&s;elves, and reproached the <HI>Anabapti&s;ts</HI> and others that differed from them in <HI>Judgment</HI> and <HI>Practice</HI> of Religion, by the name of <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and then they reproached many by that name that differed from them, and did not conform to their way of Wor&s;hip and Religion; but this continued not long, for when others came over them, and they grew under Reproach, then they them&s;elves were reproached by that name <HI>Phanatick,</HI> by which they had roproached others not long be|fore;
<PB N="11" REF="6">and many that are for the Government of the Church under <HI>Epi&s;copacy,</HI> they now reproach the <HI>Presbyterians</HI> (&s;o cal|led) by the name of <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> &s;o the word is u&s;ed in &s;corn <HI>to them</HI> by <HI>Scorners,</HI> as they u&s;ed it to others that differed from them in the like &s;cornful &s;pirit: And thus the word is made u&s;e of only in <HI>deri&s;ion</HI> and <HI>reproach</HI> to any that differ from the Pub|lick way of Religion in the Land: for when the Publick was generally <HI>Presbyterian,</HI> then they that would not conform to that, but oppo&s;ed it, were called <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> and now when the Publick is <HI>Epi&s;copal,</HI> even the <HI>Presbyterians</HI> them&s;elves, and all that differ from that way and cannot conform to it, are <HI>re|proached</HI> by the &s;cornful name of <HI>Phanaticks.</HI> And thus the word hath been exchanged from <HI>one &s;ort</HI> of Scorners <HI>to another,</HI> and u&s;ed reproachfully towards divers per&s;ons; &s;o that, as I have &s;aid, the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> is truly proper to none of the Sects more than others, but only proper to be u&s;ed by <HI>Scoffers</HI> and <HI>Scorners</HI> again&s;t any whom they have a mind to <HI>villifie;</HI> and it's exchanged from one to another, and u&s;ed by divers &s;orts of people, according as Times and Religion do change by the Powers of the Earth. So the term <HI>Phanatick</HI> is changed into the mouths of Scorners, to reproach all that differ from the common general Way of Profe&s;&s;ion and Practice of Reli|gion.</P>
<P N="4">4. Now, <HI>la&s;t of all,</HI> it is changed yet <HI>once more</HI> into the mouths of the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> as by <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> doth appear, now un|der my explanation: and now the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have gotten the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> both from the <HI>Presbyterians</HI> and <HI>Epi&s;copals,</HI> and all mu&s;t now be reproached by that name, that differ from them and their Way and Religion; and they have already begun to cry <HI>Phanatick</HI> to the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> that differ from them in Prin|ciples and Practices. And thus it's manife&s;t, that the word <HI>Phanatick</HI> is truly proper to none, but only u&s;ed by <HI>Scorners,</HI> to all whom they will revile and hold in deri&s;ion, as different from them in Religion, &s;uch they villifie by the name of <HI>Pha|naticks:</HI> Fir&s;t, the <HI>Presbyterians</HI> u&s;ed it to &s;uch as differed from them; then <HI>Epi&s;copal men</HI> (&s;o called) u&s;ed it towards all that differed from them; and now, la&s;t of all, the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have got it from both, and u&s;e it to all <HI>in deri&s;ion</HI> that differ from them.
<PB N="12" REF="7">And thus I have &s;hewed, fir&s;t, the <HI>beginning</HI> of the u&s;e of the word <HI>Phanatick,</HI> and upon what occa&s;ion, and its true &s;ignifica|tion, as u&s;ed at this day. Secondly, Concerning the <HI>Exchanging</HI> of the word from one to another, and how that it's truly proper to no People, but Scorners only u&s;e it, to <HI>deride</HI> and <HI>reproach</HI> &s;uch as differ from them, and cannot run in the &s;ame exce&s;s of Vanity. Thirdly, How the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> now, la&s;t of all, have got it, and u&s;e it again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tants;</HI> and in their mouthes now it remains: and the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> (&s;o called) are now the Per|&s;ons and People that are accounted <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> becau&s;e they differ from the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> in Principles and Practices of Faith, Wor&s;hip and Religion: and this is manife&s;t by the &s;cope of <HI>Semper Iidem.</HI></P>
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<HEAD>Secondly, <HI>I &s;hall now &s;hew how maliciou&s;ly the namele&s;s Author of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath &s;landered the</HI> Martyrs <HI>and Sufferers for Righteou&s;ne&s;s &s;ake in former Ages; and how he hath ac|cu&s;ed the</HI> Prote&s;tants <HI>(now living) and what effect this would work in</HI> England, <HI>if the Author's Intent were fulfilled.</HI></HEAD>
<P N="1">1. He hath <HI>&s;landered, accu&s;ed</HI> and rendred the <HI>Martyrs</HI> of old, as <HI>Infamous</HI> as he po&s;&s;ibly can, even termed them by the &s;cornful name of <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> even the <HI>Prote&s;tant Martyrs</HI> (&s;o called) who are &s;aid to be the <HI>very Fathers</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tant Church;</HI> as Bi&s;hop <HI>Latimer, Cranmer, Ridley,</HI> and many <HI>others,</HI> who have been accounted <HI>honourable</HI> in <HI>England</HI> for their <HI>faith|fulne&s;s</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Church of ROME,</HI> who, becau&s;e thereof, were <HI>martyred</HI> and <HI>burned</HI> by the Cruelty of the <HI>Papi&s;ts:</HI> yet the&s;e per&s;ons, with <HI>Robert Woodman, Thomas Hawks,</HI> and ma|ny more of the Antient <HI>Prote&s;tant Martyrs,</HI> are &s;landered by the villifying term of <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> and that they were men of <HI>mi&s;chief,</HI> and <HI>licentious tongues,</HI> and <HI>&s;editious behaviour,</HI> and they were <HI>erroneous</HI> and <HI>ob&s;tinate,</HI> as in the ninth Page of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> doth appear: and in pag. 16. <HI>Latimer</HI> is again called one of the <HI>Antient Phanaticks.</HI> And thus the main work of this namele&s;s Author throughout his Book is to accu&s;e the <HI>Prote&s;tant Martyrs</HI> that &s;uffered in <HI>Queen Maries</HI> dayes, to be <HI>rebellious &s;editious Hereticks,</HI> and he villifies them by the very title of
<PB N="13" REF="7"><HI>Antient Phanaticks;</HI> and this is apparent through the whole Pamphlet, even by his <HI>Calumnies, Reproaches</HI> and <HI>Accu&s;ations</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tant Martyrs,</HI> who &s;uffered for bearing Witne&s;s again&s;t the <HI>Church of Rome.</HI> And thus the very Fathers of the <HI>Prote&s;tant Church</HI> (&s;o called) &s;tand now in reputation to be <HI>He|reticks, &s;editious, rebellious,</HI> and judged <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> and this is for the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> (&s;o called) even the <HI>very Bi&s;hops</HI> them&s;elves in <HI>England</HI> to con&s;ider of.</P>
<P N="2">2. The Author of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath accu&s;ed &s;ome of the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> even of the <HI>King's Friends</HI> now living, and villifieth them by the name of <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> as <HI>William Pryn, &amp;c.</HI> whom he calls one of the <HI>Modern Phanaticks:</HI> And no doubt but the Intent of this man, with whom I am now in conte&s;t, reputes even <HI>all the Prote&s;tants</HI> of this pre&s;ent Age, to be <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and &s;uch as the <HI>Antient Phanaticks,</HI> to wit, the <HI>Prote&s;tant Mar|tyrs,</HI> as before-mentioned; for he having accu&s;ed <HI>Ridley</HI> and <HI>Cranmer,</HI> and many more, being &s;uch who were &s;ome of the fir&s;t <HI>Promoters</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tant Religion</HI> in <HI>England,</HI> and the ve|ry In&s;tituters of that Book, called the <HI>Divine-Service-Book;</HI> it mu&s;t needs follow con&s;equently, and may be concluded from his words, and by his meaning, That all the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> now are &s;uch, even the pre&s;ent <HI>Prelates</HI> of <HI>England;</HI> and dur&s;t the Author have &s;poken plain, it is likely he would have &s;aid the &s;ame, but that he hath minced the matter a little, as well as concealed his name, though his work be cryed up and down <HI>London;</HI> which all &s;ober People may indeed well take no|tice of, &s;eeing that the <HI>Martyrs</HI> of old, who have to this day been of <HI>good report</HI> and <HI>fame</HI> for their <HI>Piety</HI> and <HI>Faithful|ne&s;s</HI> in <HI>London,</HI> and through the&s;e Lands, are now <HI>accu&s;ed, &s;landered</HI> and <HI>reproached</HI> up and down the Streets of <HI>London</HI> by the name of <HI>Rebels</HI> and <HI>&s;editious,</HI> and by the term of <HI>Antient Phanaticks.</HI> Is <HI>London</HI> &s;o blind that cannot &s;ee what is in the bottom and intent of &s;uch a work, as renders the very <HI>Fathers</HI> of their Church <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and no better than <HI>Phanaticks?</HI> And as for <HI>William Pryn,</HI> who is al&s;o accounted one of the chief <HI>Mo|dern Phanaticks,</HI> I &s;hall leave him to an&s;wer for him&s;elf, not doubting but he is &s;ufficient to &s;ay &s;omething in the Ca&s;e; on|ly may mind him, with many others of his Principles and Fa|miliarity,
<PB N="14" REF="8">how they have cryed out <HI>Phanaticks</HI> again&s;t &s;uch as have differed from them, and this not long &s;ince; and now them&s;elves are under the &s;ame Reproach by others, as they have reproached others; and now he and they are reckoned the <HI>Modern Phanaticks</HI> and no better.</P>
<P N="3">3. What can po&s;&s;ibly be the <HI>Author's</HI> intent in his proceed|ings? Fir&s;t, in relating of the <HI>burning, de&s;troying</HI> and <HI>mar|tyring</HI> of the <HI>Martyrs,</HI> whom he wickedly calleth <HI>Antient Phanaticks.</HI> And then, &s;econdly, intimating the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> now living to be <HI>Phanaticks</HI> by this Parallel, the <HI>purpo&s;e</HI> and <HI>end</HI> of the man mu&s;t needs be, that he would have <HI>Fire</HI> and <HI>Faggots <HI>up again,</HI> Burning</HI> and <HI>Martyring <HI>up again in Eng|land;</HI></HI> and all that &s;hall differ from this man's way (whom we find by <HI>Calculation</HI> to be chiefly a <HI>Papi&s;t</HI>) &s;hould be <HI>burnt, mar|tyred</HI> and <HI>de&s;troyed</HI> now again, as in the dayes of <HI>Queen Mary;</HI> this effect would follow: and this <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> is but as a little <HI>Item</HI> or <HI>Intimation</HI> beforehand, cryed up and down <HI>London,</HI> to prepare its own &s;pirit, where it &s;hall meet with it, into <HI>Fury</HI> and <HI>Rage,</HI> even to the de&s;troying of all the Prote&s;tants: And as this <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> may po&s;&s;ibly work &s;uch an effect among the people of that &s;pirit, that love to <HI>murther</HI> and <HI>burn</HI> for dif|ference in Religion, It may al&s;o and ought to work an effect in the other party, to be con&s;iderate and diligent, and to re|gard the &s;igns of the Times, even the &s;ign of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> which &s;eems to be a little <HI>black Star</HI> predicting <HI>a bad Effect,</HI> if the cour&s;e of Heaven alter it not again. And <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> is indeed to be taken notice of in <HI>London,</HI> becau&s;e the like hath not been for above <HI>an hundred years,</HI> nor any one ever dur&s;t to appear in &s;uch a <HI>publication</HI> of villifying the <HI>Prote&s;tant Martyrs</HI> with Reproaches and Callumnies of <HI>Rebels, Seditious men</HI> and <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> as this namele&s;s Author hath done: which gives us cau&s;e to &s;ay the Times <HI>are changed,</HI> and may yet <HI>change fur|ther,</HI> if the Effect of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> be not diverted: for the Ef|fect of his work is, to bring all to <HI>Fire, Faggot</HI> and <HI>Martyr|dom</HI> that &s;hall differ from the Church of <HI>Rome,</HI> of whom the Author is a Member, as by all <HI>&s;igns</HI> and <HI>tokens</HI> doth appear.</P>
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<HEAD>Thirdly, <HI>I &s;hall now &s;hew how this &s;pirit in the</HI> Papi&s;ts, <HI>that burnt the</HI> Martyrs, <HI>(which is the &s;ame &s;pirit that endited</HI> Semper Iidem, <HI>that is again moving its Countenance now a|dayes) I &s;hall &s;hew how that &s;pirit was not, nor is of Chri&s;t, but of Antichri&s;t and the Devil.</HI></HEAD>
<P N="1">1. It was not the way of Chri&s;t and his Apo&s;tles, neither did they give Command or Pre&s;ident for it, To <HI>kill, burn,</HI> or <HI>de&s;troy their Enemies,</HI> and &s;uch as were <HI>Hereticks,</HI> as the <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians</HI> do, and as the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> did in <HI>Queen Maries</HI> dayes; who <HI>burned</HI> and <HI>de&s;troyed</HI> many hundreds of the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> who di&s;&s;ented from them in their Profe&s;&s;ion and Practices of Religion: and this was not Chri&s;t's way, for he commanded <HI>To <HI>love</HI> Enemies,</HI> and <HI>not <HI>to kill</HI> them,</HI> and it was his practice; <HI>He did <HI>Good</HI> to them that did <HI>Evil</HI> to Him,</HI> and &s;o did his Apo&s;tles; and there was no &s;uch thing in the Churches of Chri&s;t in the Apo&s;tles dayes, as <HI>killing</HI> and <HI>burning</HI> of <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and putting them <HI>to Death</HI> by <HI>Cruel Torments;</HI> but Chri&s;t and his Apo&s;tles did <HI>Convince Gain&s;ayers</HI> by <HI>Love</HI> and <HI>Sound Doctrine;</HI> and did walk <HI>peaceably</HI> towards <HI>all their Enemies,</HI> and did not &s;eek <HI>their De&s;truction,</HI> nor to be <HI>revenged</HI> on ther Per&s;ecutors: but the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians,</HI> contrary to <HI>Chri&s;t's Doctrine</HI> and <HI>Ex|ample,</HI> do <HI>burn</HI> and <HI>kill,</HI> and <HI>de&s;troy <HI>their Enemies,</HI></HI> &s;uch whom they <HI>judge</HI> to be in <HI>Error,</HI> though yet their <HI>Judgment</HI> be <HI>ut|terly fal&s;e,</HI> and their <HI>Killing</HI> and <HI>Burning,</HI> grounded upon &s;uch <HI>Judgment:</HI> and this hath been the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> way of proceeding, as is related in <HI>Semper Iidem;</HI> wherein is mentioned the <HI>bur|ning</HI> and <HI>de&s;troying</HI> of a great number of &s;uch as they then called <HI>Hereticks,</HI> whom <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> now calls <HI>Antient Phana|ticks:</HI> and he hath ju&s;tified their Martyrdom <HI>to be Right,</HI> and condemned the Martyred as <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> and this is publi&s;hed in <HI>London.</HI></P>
<P N="2">2. All <HI>Per&s;ecution</HI> about <HI>Religion,</HI> and <HI>killing</HI> and <HI>burning</HI> for differences in matters of <HI>Spiritual things,</HI> hath been and is of the <HI>Devil</HI> and <HI>Antichri&s;t,</HI> both in the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> and other <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians,</HI> though it hath long been practi&s;ed in the World, for to de&s;troy the workman&s;hip of God, the Per&s;ons and Creatures,
<PB N="16" REF="9">by <HI>Fires</HI> and <HI>Cruel Torments:</HI> This is not of God, but of the Devil, e&s;pecially when it is done upon &s;uch an unju&s;t occa&s;ion, as to de&s;troy mens Per&s;ons by cruel Tortures for the Error of their Minds; This is of the <HI>Bea&s;t</HI> and <HI>Dragon,</HI> &s;poken of in the <HI>Revelations; For the Bea&s;t <HI>killed</HI> all that would not wor&s;hip him, Rev.</HI> 13. For it was the <HI>Dragon</HI> that per&s;ecuted the <HI>Wo|man</HI> the <HI>true Church,</HI> and made War with the Remnant of her Seed, and ca&s;t floods out of his mouth, after the <HI>Woman</HI> had brought forth the <HI>Man-Child;</HI> and he pur&s;ued her into the Wilderne&s;s, and then he gave power to the Bea&s;t, his Seat and his great Authority, as you may read; and then that Bea&s;t, to whom the Dragon gave Authority, <HI>forced all</HI> to wor&s;hip him, and <HI>killed all</HI> that would not wor&s;hip him, and <HI>made War</HI> again&s;t them, and <HI>overcame them:</HI> And &s;o it is manife&s;t that this Pra|ctice, which the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians</HI> have u&s;ed, of <HI>Burn|ing</HI> and <HI>Killing</HI> all &s;uch as will not wor&s;hip after their manner, is of the <HI>Devil</HI> the <HI>Dragon</HI> and <HI>Antichri&s;t,</HI> and hath no foun|dation in God, but is of the <HI>wicked One</HI> to all <HI>intents</HI> and <HI>pur|po&s;es.</HI> And thus I have &s;hewed the <HI>Papi&s;ts Practices</HI> in Queen <HI>Maries</HI> dayes, (and at all times before and &s;ince, of <HI>burning</HI> and <HI>de&s;troying</HI> of &s;uch as differ from them in Religious Mat|ters) are of the <HI>Devil</HI> and <HI>Antichri&s;t,</HI> though the Author of <HI>Sem|per Iidem</HI> &s;eems to ju&s;tifie the Death of the Martyrs, and hath reproachfully villified them, above an hundred years after they are dead, by the &s;cornful name of <HI>Phanaticks.</HI></P>
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<P>Fourthly, <HI>I &s;hall now &s;hew &s;omething concerning the Cau&s;e of the Publication of</HI> Semper Iidem, <HI>which the Author &s;aith, is from the late In&s;urrection in</HI> London, <HI>and comparing them with their Predece&s;&s;ors, he thought fit to publi&s;h the &s;ame; as in his Epi&s;tle.</HI></P>
<P>Now in An&s;wer to this. As for the <HI>In&s;urrection</HI> in <HI>London,</HI> I &s;hall not ju&s;tifie it, nor &s;peak a word in vindication of the &s;aid Per&s;ons proceedings, but &s;hall leave them without giving my Judgment upon them further than this, <Q>That it was an Evil Occa&s;ion, admini&s;tred again&s;t &s;uch as were no way guilty thereof, who are deeply &s;uffering this day <HI>Impri&s;onment</HI> and
<PB N="17" REF="9"><HI>Perfecution,</HI> and their <HI>peaceable Meetings broken up,</HI> and they <HI>violently</HI> dealt withal in many particulars, and only upon the occa&s;ion of that <HI>In&s;urrection</HI> afore&s;aid; And how unju&s;t it is, let all the World judge, that any &s;hould &s;uffer for the faults of others? and how unequal it is that many &s;hould be Im|pri&s;oned, fined, and taken out of their own hou&s;es and Meet|ings to Goals and Pri&s;ons, as at this day, upon the Occa|&s;ion of that <HI>In&s;urrection,</HI> whereof they were clear and inno|cent both to God and men, though they are dealt withal as <HI>Plotters, Conspirors</HI> and <HI>Rebellious,</HI> when as hereof they are not guilty?</Q> And this is all that I &s;hall &s;ay at pre&s;ent as about that <HI>In&s;urrection,</HI> and the Occa&s;ion of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> its Publication.</P>
<P>And whereas Sir <HI>John Oldca&s;tle,</HI> and Sir <HI>Roger Acton,</HI> with divers others, are mentioned, and their Deaths related, whom this Author &s;aith, were put to death for <HI>Trea&s;on</HI> and <HI>Rebellion,</HI> and making <HI>In&s;urrections.</HI> Concerning the Carriages and Death of &s;uch, I &s;hall &s;ay little, nor can I ju&s;tifie any in &s;o doing, neither in Ages pa&s;t, nor in this pre&s;ent time, if they were put to death only upon that Account, for <HI>rebelling with Carnal Weapons,</HI> and <HI>ri&s;ing up in Conspiracies</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Autho|rities</HI> which they were under, or for <HI>Evil-doing to their Neigh|bours;</HI> I &s;ay, &s;uch neither in this Age, nor in Ages pa&s;t, do I ju&s;tifie nor will vindicate their Practices, nor condemn their Death, but &s;hall leave them to be ju&s;tified or condemned of God according to their doings, and according to the end and intent of their hearts in their proceedings: but many others are mentioned in <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> who &s;uffered and were put to Death, <HI>burned</HI> and <HI>killed,</HI> only for and becau&s;e of their Princi|ples and Practices in Religion, while yet they lived peaceably, and were of a harmle&s;s Conver&s;ation among&s;t men; the <HI>Per|&s;ecution</HI> and <HI>Death</HI> of &s;uch, upon that account, I do condemn, and do charge it to be Murder in the &s;ight of God, of &s;uch who were burned and de&s;troyed becau&s;e of their difference in Religion from the Church of <HI>Rome,</HI> when as no unrighteou&s;ne&s;s nor double-dealing, as to men, could be charged and proved again&s;t them; &s;uch (I &s;ay) as died and &s;uffered for that Cau&s;e, have been <HI>murdered</HI> by the power of <HI>Antichri&s;t</HI> among the Apo|&s;tate
<PB N="18" REF="10">Chri&s;tians, and the Blood of &s;uch will the God of Hea|ven avenge one time or other.</P>
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<HEAD>Now I come to &s;earch &s;ome particulars, which are &s;tated pag. <HI>3.</HI> which it's &s;aid <HI>John Wickliff</HI> held; which Doctrines the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> &s;eems to &s;ay are Errors, by his condemning &s;uch for Hereticks as held them for Truths.</HEAD>
<P>The fir&s;t, <HI>That the Sacrament of the Altar is nothing but a piece of Bread.</HI> This the <HI>Lollards</HI> (&s;o called) are &s;aid to affirm, for which the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> condemned them as Hereticks.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the <HI>Sacrament of the Altar,</HI> &s;o termed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> we find nothing of it in all the Scriptures, not <HI>Sa|crament of the Altar</HI> nominated; only we find, That Chri&s;t took Bread and brake it, and gave it to his Di&s;ciples; not as Him&s;elf, for He only gave it them to eat <HI>in Remembrance of Him&s;elf. As oft as ye do it</HI> (&s;aith Chri&s;t) <HI>do it in Remembrance of Me.</HI> Where it is manife&s;t, that there is a di&s;tinction to be made, and a &s;eparation in expre&s;&s;ion to be put between that Bread which Chri&s;t gave his Di&s;ciples to eat, and his own Bo|dy; for they were to eat the Bread, not <HI>as Him,</HI> but in <HI>Remem|brance of Him:</HI> and this &s;hews that the Bread which Chri&s;t gave his Di&s;ciples, was Bread to be eaten <HI>in Remembrance of Him;</HI> and &s;o it is no Error, but &s;ound Truth to affirm, That the Bread, called <HI>the Sacrament of the Altar</HI> by the <HI>Papi&s;ts, is but indeed a piece of Bread,</HI> and may &s;afely &s;o be called: But &s;uppo&s;e it were Error in men &s;o to believe and &s;ay; yet it is <HI>Murder, Cruelty,</HI> and not of Chri&s;t, but of the <HI>Wicked One,</HI> &s;o to deal with them for their <HI>Errors &s;ake,</HI> as before-menti|oned.</P>
<P>Doct. 2. <HI>That Prie&s;ts have no more Authority to admini&s;ter Sacraments then Lay-men;</HI> Held by the <HI>Lollards;</HI> Condemned as a great Error by the Papi&s;ts.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the Name and Order of <HI>Prie&s;ts,</HI> we find none &s;uch among the Apo&s;tles in the Chri&s;tian Churches in their dayes; <HI>Pa&s;tors,</HI> and <HI>Mini&s;ters,</HI> and <HI>Prophets,</HI> and <HI>Teachers</HI> we find, but not <HI>Prie&s;ts</HI> by that Name, as a <HI>particular Order</HI> of men in the Church, &s;aving that all the Saints are called <HI>Kings</HI> and
<PB N="19" REF="10"><HI>Prie&s;ts unto God;</HI> neither do we find &s;uch a thing, <HI>as Con&s;ecrating a piece of Bread into a more holy quality then it was in it &s;elf before;</HI> nor any Commi&s;&s;ion given by Chri&s;t to a particular Order of men to admini&s;ter Bread to the People as His Body; we read that the Saints brake Bread when they were <HI>met together,</HI> and &s;omtime from <HI>hou&s;e to hou&s;e,</HI> but that there were particular per|&s;ons, by an Office among them, that did admini&s;ter the Bread in the <HI>form</HI> and <HI>manner</HI> as among <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> we read not of this in all the Scriptures; And as for <HI>Lay-men,</HI> as <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> tearm them, this Word we have not in all the Scriptures, but Saints we have of divers growths; but the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have made many in|ventions of Offices, Titles, and Names in their Church, for which they have no example at all in the Scriptures.</P>
<P>Doct. 3. <HI>That all things ought to be in Common;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as a great Error.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> It is a great que&s;tion what &s;ignification may be put upon the Word <HI>Common;</HI> So I &s;hall not vindicate for Truth, the Doctrine as it lyes, and leave the Interpretation of the Word <HI>Common</HI> to my Adver&s;aries, and &s;o I pa&s;s it; onely do mind, that it is &s;aid in the <HI>Acts, That they that believed, had all things Comm<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="KEYERS" EXTENT="2 letters">;</HI> Though the Word <HI>Common</HI> there, I under|&s;tand not <HI>Ab&s;olute,</HI> but with <HI>Re&s;triction.</HI></P>
<P>Doct. 4. <HI>That it is as lawful to Chri&s;ten a Child in a Tub of water at home, or in a Ditch by the way, as in a Font-&s;tone, in the Church;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as a great Error.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the <HI>Baptizing of Infants,</HI> by <HI>Dipping</HI> or <HI>Sprink|ling,</HI> and calling it the Bapti&s;m into the Faith, and into the Church, as Practi&s;ed and Held by the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> we have cau&s;e to que&s;tion the Lawfulne&s;s of the thing in it &s;elf at any Place; For, we find <HI>no Command</HI> or <HI>Pre&s;ident</HI> of Chri&s;t, nor among his Apo&s;tles in the Primitive Churches, for this thing of <HI>Chri&s;ten|ing</HI> Infants; and therefore we que&s;tion, whether the thing in it &s;elf is lawful at <HI>any time</HI> or <HI>place?</HI> Suppo&s;e the Papi&s;ts could prove the thing lawful, and that it ought to be done by virtue of any Command or Example of Chri&s;t or his Apo&s;tles: Then a|gain we que&s;tion, why not as lawful to be done at any other Place, as in a <HI>Font-&s;tone?</HI> (&s;o called,) Of what holine&s;s or purity is that, more than other places? and of who&s;e invention is it,
<PB N="20" REF="11">of all the Chri&s;tians &s;ince the Apo&s;tles days, &s;eeing we find no|thing at all of it in the Scriptures? But &s;uppo&s;e the Principle to hold indeed ab&s;olute Error, the Papi&s;ts yet do &s;till wickedly in racking men, and burning them becau&s;e thereof.</P>
<P>Doct. 5. <HI>That it is as lawful at all times to confe&s;&s;e unto a Lay|man as to a Prie&s;t;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the Papi&s;ts as great Error.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for that manner and form of <HI>Auricular Confe&s;&s;ion,</HI> (&s;o called) practi&s;ed among the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> we have no Command or Example for it in all the Scriptures; only the Apo&s;tle exhort|ed <HI>to Confe&s;s your faults one to another;</HI> but no mention of di|&s;tinction of Per&s;ons, as if there was an Order of men among the Saints, Ordained for Confe&s;&s;ion to be made unto, as is among the Papi&s;ts practi&s;ed: But &s;uch kind of Inventions, are among them, and all that gain&s;ay them in their wayes, mu&s;t be burned as <HI>Hereticks;</HI> and this is the way that the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> do uphold their Religion, not by &s;ound Arguments, and by the Spirit and Power of God, but by killing &s;uch as will not Believe, and Practi&s;e as they do.</P>
<P>Doct. 6. <HI>That it is not nece&s;&s;ary or profitable to have any Church or Chappel to pray or performe Divine Service in;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as a great Error.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the Church, <HI>it is in God,</HI> 1 <HI>The&s;.</HI> 1. and the Body of Chri&s;t <HI>is the Church, Ephe&s;.</HI> 1.23. The Saints of Chri&s;t, that have Believed in Him and Received Him, <HI>where|&s;oever</HI> or <HI>when&s;oever</HI> met together, they are the Church of Chri&s;t; for the Church was in <HI>Aquillas Hou&s;e,</HI> as may be read: and in this Church of Chri&s;t, where&s;oever come together, is the <HI>Di|vine, Holy, Acceptable Service</HI> of God, performed in the Spirit and in the Truth; And as for <HI>Hou&s;es</HI> of <HI>Wood</HI> and <HI>Stone,</HI> builded and called <HI>Churches</HI> and <HI>Chappels,</HI> which <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have builded to perform their Service in, the&s;e are <HI>Idolatrous Places,</HI> and not <HI>True Churches; <HI>God dwels not in Temples made with hands,</HI></HI> as it's written: And though a man affirm, that God may be wor&s;hipped and &s;erved as well in <HI>any Place,</HI> as in your <HI>Churches</HI> and <HI>Chappels,</HI> and that &s;uch Places are <HI>not nece&s;&s;ary,</HI> but God may be &s;erved in <HI>other Places;</HI> This is <HI>no Error,</HI> de|&s;erving <HI>Fire</HI> and <HI>Faggot,</HI> as the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> do Affirm and Pra|cti&s;e.</P>
<PB N="21" REF="11">
<P>Doctrines. 7. and 8. <HI>That burying in the Church-Yard is un|profitable and vain. That Holy Days, In&s;tituted by the Church, are not to be ob&s;erved and kept in reverence, in as much as all Days are alike;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as Errors.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;.</HI> There is no <HI>re&s;pect</HI> of <HI>Places</HI> with God, neither are the Dead <HI>more</HI> or <HI>le&s;s acceptable</HI> to Him, notwith&s;tanding the place of burial, whether it be <HI>on the Land</HI> or ca&s;t <HI>into the Sea,</HI> if occa&s;i|on &s;o happen, as &s;ometime it doth; The <HI>Patriarchs</HI> of old, had <HI>Places appointed</HI> and <HI>purcha&s;ed</HI> for burial of their Dead, as it is at this day among the Lord's People; but that the <HI>Church-yard</HI> (&s;o called) is <HI>more Holy</HI> than <HI>another place,</HI> as the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> do account, This we believe not, nor can it be proved to us, by Scripture or &s;ound Rea&s;on. And as for <HI>Holy Dayes</HI> in&s;tituted and ob&s;erved, is but a meer <HI>Invention</HI> of the <HI>Romi&s;h Church,</HI> without any ground from the Apo&s;tles, and it is no &s;in again&s;t God not to ob&s;erve them, &amp; all days as to God <HI>are alike <HI>holy</HI></HI> in His &s;ight, without <HI>re&s;pect</HI> of <HI>one</HI> or <HI>another;</HI> And for the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> to invent Practices, without Example in the Scriptures, as Re|ligious, and then to Impo&s;e them by force upon all People, and <HI>to <HI>Kill</HI></HI> and <HI>Burn</HI> &s;uch as <HI>Hereticks</HI> as cannot <HI>conform there-unto,</HI> How <HI>Impious, Oppre&s;&s;ive,</HI> and <HI>Antichri&s;tian</HI> this manner of work is, let all &s;ober People judge? And this is but a mocking of God, for the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> to profe&s;s <HI>Holy Dayes,</HI> and with a pre|tence of God's wor&s;hip to ob&s;erve them as <HI>Holy,</HI> when as more <HI>Rudene&s;s, Drunkenne&s;s, Wantonne&s;s,</HI> and <HI>&V;ngodline&s;s</HI> is <HI>u&s;ually committed</HI> that <HI>Day,</HI> which they profe&s;s <HI>to keep Holy,</HI> man is on the <HI>other Dayes</HI> be&s;ide; And this is manife&s;t to all People, that thus the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> do mock God, in their exerci&s;e of keeping <HI>Holy Dayes.</HI></P>
<P>Doctrines 9. and 10. <HI>That it is &s;ufficient to Believe, though a man do no Good Works at all. That no Humane Laws or Con|stitutions do oblige a Chri&s;tian;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as Errors.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> It is &s;ufficient to Believe in <HI>Je&s;us Christ,</HI> and that <HI>Believing</HI> is a <HI>Good Work,</HI> and if a man <HI>truly Believe,</HI> he cannot but bring forth by that <HI>Faith Good VVorks;</HI> and it is impo&s;&s;ible for a true Believer in Chri&s;t but <HI>to do good Works;</HI> If a man do no <HI>Good VVorks,</HI> he is not a <HI>Believer, For <HI>Faith</HI> without <HI>Works</HI> is
<PB N="22" REF="12">dead,</HI> and that is no true <HI>Belief,</HI> which is without <HI>Good Works;</HI> and a Chri&s;tian, one that is truly &s;o, is obliged and bound by the Law of God, <HI>to do <HI>all Good,</HI></HI> and <HI>to for&s;ake <HI>all Evil;</HI></HI> and the Laws of men, they are &s;ubject to them all <HI>for Con&s;cience &s;ake,</HI> by <HI>performing</HI> them, or <HI>&s;uffering</HI> under them. And as for <HI>Hu|mane Inventions</HI> of the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> which they <HI>bind on the Con&s;ci|ences</HI> of men, upon <HI>lo&s;&s;e of Life,</HI> or <HI>E&s;tate,</HI> or <HI>Damnation;</HI> The&s;e things, we &s;ay, do not oblige the Con&s;cience, nor any Laws or Con&s;titutions of men do oblige Chri&s;tians to Obedience, which are not truly grounded upon the Law of God.</P>
<P>Doct. 11. <HI>That God never gave Grace or Knowledge to a Great Per&s;on, or Rich Man, and that they in no wi&s;e follow the &s;ame.</HI></P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> This is a fal&s;e Doctrine, for God gives Grace to all; <HI>The Grace of God which brings Salvation, hath appeared <HI>unto all men,</HI></HI> as it is written, which Grace teacheth the Saints <HI>to deny <HI>all ungodline&s;s;</HI></HI> and the wicked turn the <HI>grace of God into wan|tonne&s;s:</HI> but the <HI>true knowledge of God</HI> is given but to a few; and not many <HI>Wi&s;e men after the fle&s;h are called,</HI> but <HI>God choo&s;eth the Poor and Contemptible</HI> (as &s;aith <HI>Paul) to confound the Wi&s;e and Mighty of this World;</HI> and yet God gives Knowledge to Rich and Poor without re&s;pect of per&s;ons, as it plea&s;eth Him.</P>
<P>Doct. 12. <HI>That any Lay-man may Preach by his own autho|rity, without Licence of the Ordinary;</HI> Oppo&s;ed by the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> as a great Error.</P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> All in the true Church, and that are of the Church may <HI>Prophe&s;ie</HI> and <HI>Speak</HI> in the Church, <HI>one</HI> by <HI>one,</HI> (as <HI>Paul</HI> &s;aith, without di&s;tinction of Titles, &s;uch as the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> u&s;e, <HI>Clergie</HI> and <HI>Lay-men,</HI> and <HI>&s;uch like</HI> tearms of their own Inven|tions, without Example from the Churches of Chri&s;t in the Apo&s;tles days) For the Apo&s;tle &s;aith, <HI>If any thing be revealed to another that &s;tandeth by, let the first hold his peace; for ye may all Prophe&s;ie and Speak one by one, that all may be edified:</HI> And a|gain, <HI>Peter</HI> &s;aith, <HI>As every man hath received of the gift of the Spi|rit, let him admini&s;ter the &s;ame one to another.</HI> Thus it is manife&s;t by the Scriptures, That every Member of the true Church of Chri&s;t may Preach by the Authority of the Spirit of God, as that moveth and leadeth; And this was the Example of the
<PB N="23" REF="12">holy men of God declared in Scriptures; <HI>Eli&s;ha</HI> that was a <HI>Plowman,</HI> and <HI>Amos</HI> that was <HI>a Herds-man,</HI> and <HI>Peter</HI> that was a <HI>Fi&s;her-man:</HI> The&s;e and &s;uch as the&s;e, whom the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> would have called <HI>Lay-men,</HI> did <HI>Preach</HI> and <HI>Teach,</HI> without any Li|cence from men, but as the Lord Commanded them, who &s;aid, <HI>Jer.</HI> 23. <HI>He that hath <HI>my Word,</HI> let him &s;peak <HI>my Word</HI> faith|fully,</HI> and this without re&s;pect of Per&s;ons, and without di&s;tin|ction of Names, of <HI>Lay-men,</HI> or <HI>otherwi&s;e;</HI> though contrary to this, the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> would <HI>limit</HI> the <HI>Holy One,</HI> to <HI>&s;uch</HI> and <HI>&s;uch kind of Per&s;ons,</HI> whom they name <HI>Clergie men;</HI> as if they knew all Religion, and might onely Preach, and all be&s;ides them&s;elves might be in Ignorance, and know nothing, nor can be fit to &s;peak of the matters of God's Kingdom; which is contrary to the Scriptures and Example of Saints in former Ages.</P>
<P>As for the 13. and 14. Doctrines, about Bapti&s;m of Infants, I have &s;poken &s;omewhat to it in my An&s;wer to the Fourth Do|ctrine, &s;o here I pa&s;s them.</P>
<P>Then <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> goes on and &s;aith, <HI>Who &s;ees not among the&s;e, the principal Tenets of our <HI>Anabapti&s;ts, Fifth-monarchy|men, Levellers</HI></HI> and <HI>Quakers, <HI>&amp;c.</HI></HI></P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the <HI>Anabapti&s;ts, Fifth-monarchy-men,</HI> and <HI>Le|vellers</HI> (&s;o called) I &s;hall not now plead their Cau&s;e, but &s;hall leave it to them&s;elves, to do it again&s;t <HI>Semper Iidem;</HI> neither &s;hall I <HI>Condemn them</HI> with <HI>him,</HI> nor <HI>Ju&s;tifie them</HI> again&s;t <HI>him;</HI> But as for the <HI>Quakers</HI> (&s;o called) I have a few Words to plead for them again&s;t their <HI>Adver&s;ary,</HI> though I &s;hall be brief at this time: They are neither <HI>Rebellious, Seditious, Hereticks,</HI> nor <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> though accu&s;ed at this time of the&s;e things; and accounted by the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> as &s;uch; though neither <HI>he,</HI> nor any of their <HI>fal&s;e</HI> and <HI>envious Accu&s;ers,</HI> that have ever ri&s;en again&s;t them, can prove any &s;uch matters, nor ought again&s;t them, &s;aving that they are an <HI>Innocent harmele&s;s People</HI> towards all People; and though <HI>Sufferers</HI> by <HI>Inju&s;tice</HI> and <HI>Cru|el Impri&s;onments,</HI> under all Authorities, yet not <HI>Rebellious</HI> nor <HI>Seditious</HI> again&s;t any, but <HI>Peaceable</HI> and <HI>Quiet</HI> under all; This is their Practice &s;ince they were a People. And as for their Prin|ciples of <HI>Faith,</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip,</HI> and <HI>Doctrine</HI> and <HI>Religion,</HI> they are according to the <HI>Scriptures,</HI> and Example of <HI>Saints</HI> in former
<PB N="24" REF="13">Ages, and not ever yet <HI>Convicted</HI> by any either <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> or <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> of <HI>Error, fal&s;e Judgement,</HI> or <HI>Here&s;ie;</HI> though all man|ner of Evil hath been &s;poken again&s;t them in that Ca&s;e, yet never to this day <HI>truly detected,</HI> or <HI>reprehended</HI> concerning the &s;ame; And they de&s;ire no better way to be made manife&s;t in their <HI>Doctrines,</HI> and to be approved or di&s;proved therein through the World, than to have free <HI>egre&s;s</HI> and <HI>regre&s;s</HI> among the <HI>Pa|pi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> and all others, in the way of <HI>&s;ober Argu|ments</HI> and <HI>Disputations,</HI> and Rea&s;oning out the Truth of what they hold and profe&s;s; and if they can po&s;&s;ibly be <HI>Convicted,</HI> that their <HI>Way,</HI> and <HI>Doctrines</HI> and <HI>Religion</HI> are not &s;ound <HI>Verities</HI> but <HI>Errors,</HI> then it is time to for&s;ake them; But all the <HI>Per&s;ecuti|on,</HI> that is already, or can <HI>be acted upon them,</HI> will never make them <HI>change their</HI> minds till <HI>Death,</HI> nor <HI>renounce</HI> the things which the Spirit of God in their own hearts doth bear witne&s;s to the truth of: And therefore let the Church of <HI>Rome</HI> lay down her <HI>cruel Weapons</HI> of <HI>Per&s;ecution,</HI> by <HI>Burning</HI> and <HI>De&s;troying</HI> of &s;uch as <HI>differ</HI> from them in Religion, and let her admit of <HI>Di&s;|putation</HI> and <HI>&s;ound Arguments,</HI> to uphold her &s;elf thereby if &s;he be able, and to <HI>Confute</HI> and <HI>Convince</HI> &s;uch as are contrary-minded to her, even the <HI>Quakers</HI> (&s;o called) if &s;he can; and let her cea&s;e her <HI>Fire,</HI> and <HI>Faggot,</HI> and <HI>Inqui&s;ition-Di&s;puta|tion,</HI> of <HI>Murders</HI> and <HI>cruel Tortures</HI> again&s;t &s;uch whom &s;he calls <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and let her appear in the <HI>&s;ounde&s;t Arguments</HI> of <HI>Rea&s;on,</HI> and <HI>Soripture,</HI> and <HI>Antiquity,</HI> that &s;he can adorn her &s;elf withall; And the <HI>Quakers</HI> (&s;o called) will not <HI>doubt</HI> nor <HI>fear,</HI> to advance <HI>towards her,</HI> and <HI>meet her,</HI> and <HI>an&s;wer her</HI> in the &s;ame, for the <HI>true</HI> and <HI>legal Trial</HI> of both; That all the World may <HI>&s;ee</HI> and <HI>under&s;tand</HI> the difference between the&s;e <HI>two,</HI> and whether the <HI>Papi&s;ts Religion</HI> or the <HI>Quakers Religion,</HI> is of more <HI>Rea&s;on, Verity</HI> and <HI>Antiquity;</HI> and the <HI>Quakers</HI> are willing to try this Ca&s;e with the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> engaging upon the adventure of certain <HI>proof</HI> or <HI>di&s;proof</HI> of their Religion, in the view of the whole world: And this is the mo&s;t I &s;hall &s;ay at pre&s;ent on their behalf, and in the mean time <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="KEYERS" EXTENT="1 word"> this be performed, let the Church of <HI>ROME</HI> and all her members cea&s;e to <HI>per&s;e|cute</HI> and <HI>accu&s;e</HI> &s;uch, whom they <HI>know not,</HI> but by the <HI>evil reports</HI> of <HI>others;</HI> and the <HI>Tenets</HI> and <HI>Principles</HI> of the <HI>Quakers,</HI> (&s;o
<PB N="25" REF="13">called) will be <HI>Ju&s;tified,</HI> where the fal&s;e Chri&s;tians cannot &s;tand nor appear in <HI>Judgement.</HI></P>
<P>Then <HI>Page</HI> 7. The Author of <HI>Semper lidem,</HI> Complaines of &s;ome <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> as he calls them, that Nick-name what they di&s;like; Saith he, <HI>They call the Church, <HI>a Steeple-hou&s;e;</HI> the Surplice, <HI>A Rag of Popery;</HI> the Organs, <HI>Grumbling Pipes,</HI> &amp;c.</HI></P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> As for the <HI>True Church,</HI> it is in God, 1 <HI>The&s;.</HI> 1. The People of God that are <HI>Regenerated</HI> and <HI>Sanctified,</HI> where&s;oever come together, are the true Church of Chri&s;t; for the Church was in <HI>Aquilla's Hou&s;e,</HI> as it is written: So that it is the <HI>People</HI> that are the <HI>Members</HI> of <HI>Chri&s;t,</HI> the <HI>True Church,</HI> and not the <HI>Hou&s;e</HI> or <HI>Place</HI> wherein they <HI>A&s;&s;emble</HI> at any time. And as for Calling the <HI>Publick Meeting Places,</HI> (which &s;ome call Churches) <HI>Steeple-hou&s;es,</HI> this is no <HI>Error;</HI> For the <HI>Form, Fa&s;hion,</HI> and <HI>Ser|vice</HI> of the <HI>Place</HI> proves it to be &s;o; A great Hou&s;e made of Wood and Stone, and a <HI>Steeple</HI> with Bells, erected at the <HI>end of the Hou&s;e,</HI> may properly be called a <HI>Steeple-hou&s;e</HI> without Error, and cannot at all be called a <HI>Church,</HI> but in Error. And as for the <HI>Surplice,</HI> which the Prie&s;ts put on, this is without que&s;tion an <HI>Invention <HI>of the Church of Rome;</HI></HI> becau&s;e there is no &s;uch thing in the New Te&s;tament, nor was there any <HI>Surplices</HI> worn by any of the Mini&s;ters of Chri&s;t in the <HI>Apo&s;tles days;</HI> but is an <HI>Invention</HI> introduced into the World <HI>by the Church of Rome;</HI> and &s;o is, and may be called <HI>a Piece</HI> or <HI>Rag</HI> (if you will) <HI>of Popery.</HI> And as for <HI>Organs,</HI> and the practice of them, as held forth for the Wor&s;hip of God, there was no &s;uch thing among the Apo&s;tles, neither did the Saints of the Primitive Church hold forth the Wor&s;hip of God, by <HI>playing on the Organs;</HI> But the true Spiritual <HI>Go&s;pel-Wor&s;hip,</HI> is more <HI>Heavenly</HI> and <HI>Spiri|tual,</HI> even in <HI>the Spirit and in Truth is God Wor&s;hipped,</HI> as Chri&s;t &s;aid, and not by <HI>outward Mu&s;ick,</HI> on <HI>Organs</HI> and <HI>&s;uch like;</HI> But this is al&s;o an Invention of the <HI>Church</HI> of <HI>ROME</HI> &s;ince the <HI>Apo&s;tles dayes.</HI> And <HI>Organs</HI> having <HI>Pipes of different &s;ounds,</HI> may be called, <HI>Grumbling Pipes</HI> without offence.</P>
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<P>Again, <HI>Page</HI> 11. It is charged as a great <HI>Error</HI> in &s;ome that <HI>held, It was not lawful for a Chri&s;tian to take an Oath.</HI></P>
<P><HI>An&s;w.</HI> To deny <HI>all Swearing,</HI> and <HI>taking of Oaths,</HI> is accord|ing to the Doctrine and Command of Chri&s;t Je&s;us, who hath &s;aid, <HI>Swear not at all;</HI> &s;o it's manife&s;t, that the <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians</HI> accu&s;e and condemn &s;uch <HI>for Hereticks</HI> as abide in the Doctrine of Chri&s;t, and keep his Commands: And thus both <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> are found in <HI>Error</HI> and <HI>Here&s;ie</HI> them&s;elves, and breaking the Command of Chri&s;t, and walking contrary to his Doctrine, in <HI>Swearing</HI> and <HI>taking Oaths,</HI> and condemning &s;uch as <HI>Hereticks</HI> as cannot take <HI>an Oath</HI> for <HI>Con&s;cience &s;ake:</HI> and &s;o &s;uch as refu&s;ed to take any Oath, walked in the Doctrine of Chri&s;t; and &s;uch walked contrary to his Doctrine as did con|demn them. And thus it is manife&s;t, that <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>fal&s;e Chri&s;tians</HI> are fallen from the Doctrine of Chri&s;t, and are cal|ling <HI>Good, <HI>Evil,</HI></HI> and <HI>Evil, <HI>Good;</HI></HI> and putting <HI>Light</HI> for <HI>Dark|ne&s;s,</HI> and <HI>Darkne&s;s</HI> for <HI>Light:</HI> for they account &s;uch as will <HI>take Oaths</HI> and <HI>&s;wear, <HI>good Chri&s;tians,</HI></HI> who are <HI>breakers</HI> of the <HI>Commands of Chri&s;t;</HI> and &s;uch as abide in the Doctrine of Chri&s;t, and cannot take <HI>any Oath,</HI> but keep the <HI>Commands of the Go&s;pel,</HI> they are accounted <HI>Erroneous</HI> and <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and &s;uch like.</P>
<P>And whereas the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath <HI>cen&s;ured, judged</HI> and <HI>condemned</HI> in his work, <HI>John Wickliff</HI> and <HI>John Lambert, Thomas Evi&s;on</HI> and <HI>John Waddon, William White, Cornelius Bunge, John Maundrel, John Trankerfield, George Eagles, Hugh Latimer,</HI> Bi&s;hop <HI>Cranmer,</HI> and Bi&s;hop <HI>Ridley, Thomas Hawkes, Richard Woodman;</HI> all of whom were <HI>mar|tyred</HI> and put <HI>to Death,</HI> becau&s;e they <HI>di&s;&s;ented from,</HI> and <HI>denyed</HI> the <HI>Papi&s;ts Religion:</HI> The&s;e by name, with a great many more, this namele&s;s Author, with whom I am now dealing, hath con|demned for <HI>Hereticks</HI> and <HI>Erroneous Per&s;ons,</HI> and made void, as much as in him lyes, <HI>their Blood,</HI> and ju&s;tified the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> in putting of them <HI>to Death.</HI> Now every <HI>particular Ca&s;e</HI> of the&s;e <HI>particular men</HI> that he hath <HI>named</HI> and <HI>accu&s;ed</HI> as <HI>Phanaticks</HI> and <HI>Hereticks.</HI> I &s;hall not &s;eek to <HI>&s;hew</HI> or <HI>demon&s;trate,</HI> &s;o as to
<PB N="27" REF="14"><HI>ju&s;tifie</HI> every man's <HI>particular Ca&s;e</HI> again&s;t this namele&s;s Au|thor of <HI>Semper Iidem;</HI> but this is evident, that the&s;e men are reputed by <HI>Fox</HI> in his <HI>Monuments,</HI> as <HI>Martyrs of Ie&s;us,</HI> and they have been reputed in <HI>England</HI> for many years <HI>as &s;uch,</HI> and have been held of <HI>great E&s;timation,</HI> and have been accounted as the <HI>Fathers</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tant Church;</HI> and my Judgement of them is this, <HI>That their Death generally was for the <HI>Te&s;ti|mony of Ie&s;us,</HI></HI> and becau&s;e of their faithfulne&s;s <HI>in denying the Church of Rome:</HI> for I do believe, that God did <HI>awaken</HI> the&s;e men, with many more, and &s;tir up their hearts in their day again&s;t the <HI>Idolatries</HI> and <HI>Super&s;titions</HI> of the times they lived in; and many of them were <HI>&s;incere men,</HI> according to their Light and Knowledge in their day; though I &s;hall not <HI>ju&s;tifie</HI> every <HI>particular man</HI> in every <HI>particular part</HI> and <HI>act</HI> of his Faith and Conver&s;ation, but &s;hall leave that at this time re&s;erved in mine own heart; and &s;till I &s;ay for the mo&s;t part they, <HI>&s;uffered innocently</HI> on their part, and <HI>without Cau&s;e,</HI> and <HI>cruelly, inhu|manely,</HI> and <HI>unju&s;tly</HI> on their Enemies part; and they <HI>mar|tyred them,</HI> and <HI>put them to Death,</HI> by <HI>Fires</HI> and <HI>Tortures <HI>unrighteou&s;ly</HI></HI> and as <HI>Cruel Murders</HI> on their part that Execu|ted them: And in as much as their Sufferings were only and becau&s;e of <HI>denying the Church of Rome,</HI> di&s;&s;enting from her, and denying of her; and wherein only and alone their Sufferings were in this Cau&s;e, and for this End, they &s;uffered <HI>as Servants of God;</HI> though, as I have &s;aid, I &s;hall not ju&s;tifie <HI>every par|ticular man</HI> of them in his whole <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Conver&s;ation.</HI> And for a further Relation of the&s;e Per&s;ons who were put to Death, mentioned by my namele&s;s Author, whom he accu&s;eth for <HI>Phanaticks</HI> and <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and &s;uch like, I leave it to be read in <HI>Fox's Acts</HI> and <HI>Monuments,</HI> where it may be read con|cerning the <HI>Martyrdom</HI> of every one of the&s;e <HI>particular men,</HI> with their <HI>Examinatiens, Tryals</HI> and <HI>Executions,</HI> as they are reported by <HI>Fox,</HI> who hath alwayes been reputed a <HI>faithfull Chronologer</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tants Cau&s;e,</HI> till this <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> &s;eems to accu&s;e him for a <HI>Lyar</HI> and <HI>fal&s;e Reporter,</HI> and &s;uch like; And whether the People of <HI>England</HI> have not better cau&s;e to believe <HI>his Relations</HI> of the&s;e per&s;ons, than they have to believe
<PB N="28" REF="15">they know not whom, <HI>viz.</HI> the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> a <HI>namele&s;s Author,</HI> who hath reviled the <HI>Prote&s;tants Cau&s;e,</HI> and accounted the <HI>Martyrs</HI> and <HI>faithful Witne&s;&s;es</HI> thereof, <HI>Phanaticks</HI> and <HI>Hereticks,</HI> let them&s;elves be Judges? But I &s;hall leave this, only with de&s;ire, that the&s;e men whom he hath named, their particular Ca&s;es may be read in <HI>Fox's Acts and Monuments,</HI> which if ye look in the Table at the end of the Second Volumn you &s;hall find the mens Names, with the Pages di&s;ciphered, where their Ca&s;es may be read; and when you have read them, then judge whether <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath not fal&s;ified their <HI>Ca&s;es,</HI> and wickedly reviled them by the name of <HI>Antient Phanaticks,</HI> thereby &s;eeking to &s;upplant the whole <HI>Prote&s;tant Religion,</HI> and all that di&s;&s;ent from the Church of <HI>Rome.</HI> And thus much in brief concerning the <HI>Martyrs,</HI> whom in the fourteenth Page, <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> &s;aith, <HI>That a notable part of the Sufferers, whom</HI> Fox <HI>makes relation of, were Phanaticks and Sectaries, and mad Saints,</HI> and &s;uch like naughty words, by which he accu&s;es a <HI>notable part</HI> (the&s;e be his words) which is the chiefe&s;t part of the <HI>Martyrs,</HI> related of by <HI>Fox;</HI> and accu&s;eth <HI>Fox</HI> him&s;elf of double Injuries in his Relations, in that he hath Canonized <HI>Phanaticks</HI> and <HI>Sectaries</HI> and <HI>mad Saints,</HI> for Saints and Mar|tyrs; and in that he reviled and accu&s;ed Queen <HI>Mary</HI> and the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> in tho&s;e dayes, of greater Per&s;ecutions than they were guilty of, and &s;aith, they did no more than <HI>Henry</HI> the Eighth, and <HI>Edward</HI> the Sixth, and Queen <HI>Elizabeth</HI> did to the <HI>Papi&s;ts.</HI> Thus it is manif&s;t, that that well reputed of and credited Hi&s;torian, <HI>FOX,</HI> is reputed a Lyar, a fal&s;e Reporter, and &s;o the Book of <HI>Martyrs</HI> made worth nothing, and Queen <HI>Mary</HI> and the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> ju&s;tified in what they did, in martyring and putting to death the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> in their dayes; and al&s;o, Queen <HI>Elizabeth</HI> is &s;ecretly condemned in what &s;he did again&s;t the <HI>Papi&s;ts:</HI> On that the&s;e dayes &s;hould ever appear in <HI>Eng|land,</HI> which once was not thought of! The&s;e things are pub|li&s;hed and &s;uffered, in this Old Government newly revived; Let the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> of <HI>England</HI> take notice of it, and &s;ee how the Records of their Martyrs are made <HI>null,</HI> and of <HI>none effect,</HI> and the <HI>Martyrs</HI> them&s;elves &s;landered as <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and the
<PB N="29" REF="15"><HI>Martyrers</HI> ju&s;tified as Righteous in what they did; and the&s;e things publi&s;hed and proclaimed with open face up and down <HI>London!</HI></P>
<P>The&s;e things I cannot but ob&s;erve, as full occa&s;ion is given me by <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> how that the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> Cau&s;e &s;eems to re|vive and to lift up its head again in <HI>England,</HI> in villifying and reproaching the <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> of all the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> of all &s;orts, who &s;ee|mingly begin to be crow'd over again, and the Death of their Martyrs made of none effect (as afore&s;aid) And this is only in love towards the People of <HI>England,</HI> to make them con&s;ider what attends them, and what Inva&s;ion is coming upon them, if it be not prevented; not that I wholly ju&s;tifie the Cau&s;e of the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> though <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> pleads, That Queen <HI>Mary</HI> did no more to the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> than <HI>Henry</HI> the Eighth, <HI>Edward</HI> the Sixth and Queen <HI>Elizabeth</HI> did to the <HI>Papi&s;ts:</HI> as the one <HI>per&s;ecuted, burned</HI> and <HI>martyred</HI> the <HI>Prote|&s;tants,</HI> &s;o the other did <HI>per&s;ecute</HI> and <HI>de&s;troy</HI> the <HI>Papi&s;ts;</HI> by which he would rea&s;on a Ju&s;tification of Queen <HI>Mary</HI> and the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> by the example of others again&s;t them. Now, I &s;ay, the Wickedne&s;s of one will not ju&s;tifie the Wickedne&s;s and Cruelty of the other; for neither party of them are ju&s;tifi|able in the &s;ight of God, but condemnable in &s;uch proceedings; and it was doubtle&s;s of <HI>Antichri&s;t</HI> and the <HI>Devil,</HI> in both <HI>Pa|pi&s;ts</HI> and <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> to de&s;troy and burn one another, only for and becau&s;e of difference in Religion; and wherein the <HI>Pro|te&s;tants</HI> did put any of the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> to death, only for and becau&s;e of difference in Profe&s;&s;ion and Practice of Religion, and be|cau&s;e they were <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> herein the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> were acted by the &s;ame <HI>per&s;ecuting &s;pirit</HI> of the <HI>Devil,</HI> as the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> were acted by again&s;t them: So that I am not an ab&s;olute party with the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> for I know that there is Error of Judgment among&s;t them, both in Faith, Wor&s;hip, and their whole Religion; only my end is at pre&s;ent in pur&s;uing <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> to confound his <HI>bloody &s;pirit</HI> of <HI>Per&s;ecution</HI> and <HI>Exuelty,</HI> which I find him po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ed withal, as by his di&s;cour&s;e is apparent; and al&s;o to put the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> in mind how <HI>their Cau&s;e</HI> begins to be <HI>repreached, villified</HI> and <HI>di&s;pi&s;ed</HI> even
<PB N="30" REF="16"><HI>in their own Land <HI>publickly</HI></HI> in the <HI>Streets</HI> of their <HI>Chief City!</HI> which hath not been the like for above <HI>an hundred years;</HI> And this is the end of my pur&s;uing <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> with this <HI>An&s;wer,</HI> and I &s;hall not much enlarge further, onely in the Eleventh Page there is one pa&s;&s;age worth ob&s;erving.</P>
<P>There is in&s;tanced one <HI>Richard Woodman</HI> of <HI>Su&s;&s;ex,</HI> who affirmed <HI>that he had the Spirit of God; and can prove,</HI> &s;aid he, <HI>by the Scriptures, that</HI> Paul <HI>had the Spirit of God, as I my &s;elf, and all God's Elect have.</HI> Now, &s;aith <HI>Semper Iidem, No Ar|guments nor Rea&s;ons could reclaim him from his Errors; and &s;o he was burnt at</HI> Lewis, <HI>becau&s;e he &s;aid he had the Spirit of God, and could prove that</HI> Paul <HI>had it.</HI></P>
<P REND="centerJustify">An&s;wer.</P>
<P>There it is manife&s;t, that this Martyr &s;uffered <HI>for Truth</HI> and <HI>Righteou&s;ne&s;s &s;ake,</HI> as a <HI>Saint</HI> and <HI>Servant of God,</HI> and for witne&s;&s;ing the Truth according to the Scripture, which &s;aith, <HI>If any man have not the Spirit of Chri&s;t, he is none of His:</HI> which is manife&s;t in the Scriptures, that all that are Chri&s;ts, and Members of his Church have; and it is al&s;o manife&s;t, That the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have not the Spirit of God, be|cau&s;e they <HI>burn</HI> &s;uch as do <HI>witne&s;&s;e</HI> and <HI>te&s;tifie</HI> that they have it, as here <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> him&s;elf hath given us an In&s;tance, that they <HI>burn</HI> and <HI>de&s;troy</HI> &s;uch for <HI>Hereticks</HI> as &s;ay they have the Spirit of God, he not believing that <HI>Paul</HI> had it, but &s;aith it is an Error to affirm it: and yet this work &s;eems now to be ju&s;tified <HI>up and down London-&s;treets,</HI> which is the <HI>double-Iniqui|ty,</HI> and that which once many looked not to have &s;een, that any being <HI>condemned</HI> and <HI>burned</HI> as Hereticks for &s;aying <HI>they had the Spirit of God,</HI> that this &s;hould be ju&s;tified now in the&s;e glorious dayes of Light; this &s;eems almo&s;t <HI>incredible,</HI> but that our eyes behold it; and cau&s;eth wonder in many what will be the effect of &s;uch a bad &s;ign appearing, as a Ju&s;tification of putting to Death the Innocent for no other cau&s;e, but in that he affirmed <HI>he had the Spirit of God!</HI> And by this we learn to know how great the <HI>Ignorance, Darkne&s;s</HI> and <HI>Blindne&s;s</HI> of the
<PB N="31" REF="16"><HI>Church</HI> of <HI>ROME</HI> is, and de&s;erveth not the name of a <HI>Church,</HI> if they be all of this mind, to <HI>condemn men,</HI> and <HI>burn them for Hereticks</HI> for &s;aying <HI>they have the Spirit of God,</HI> and then an <HI>hundred</HI> years after <HI>ju&s;tifie</HI> the doing of it; to their <HI>&s;hame</HI> and <HI>confu&s;ion</HI> let this be rehear&s;ed, who have them|&s;elves denyed <HI>that they have the Spirit of God,</HI> and Con|demning and De&s;troying others for &s;aying <HI>they have it:</HI> And this I leave to the Con&s;ideration of all the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> who mu&s;t either deny <HI>that they have the Spirit of God,</HI> or be <HI>Con|demned,</HI> and [may be] <HI>killed</HI> as <HI>Hereticks</HI> for affirming it, if &s;o be the <HI>Church of ROME</HI> recover her de&s;ired Power and Purpo&s;e in <HI>England.</HI> It's worthy to be minded while it may be <HI>mended,</HI> le&s;t the time come when it cannot be <HI>prevented.</HI></P>
<P>And thus I have run thorow the main part of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> and briefly hinted at the principal matters worthy to be taken notice of, (though much more might be &s;aid) but that it is my property in all ca&s;es to be as brief as may be, for that is the be&s;t for the Under&s;tanding to contain what is &s;poken or written, only &s;hall not forget <HI>William Pryn,</HI> who is &s;tated in Pag. 18. as one of our <HI>Modern Phanaticks,</HI> I would not forget to mind him, I &s;ay, to an&s;wer his part, and to clear him&s;elf, if he can, of the A&s;per&s;ion of a <HI>Phanatick,</HI> by which tearm he &s;tands reviled, though <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> fawneth upon him, and flattereth with him, and telleth him, <HI>he is the only per&s;on in this unhappy Parrallel who hath given te&s;timony of his Reconcilement.</HI> But what better is <HI>William Pryn</HI> for this Flattery? I hope he is not yet <HI>reconciled</HI> to the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> and become one of them: if he be, I de&s;ire he would let us know it; and if he be not, then <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> accounts him a <HI>Phanatick.</HI> I &s;hall &s;ay no farther, but &s;hall leave him to an&s;wer for him&s;elf.</P>
</DIV2>
<DIV2 TYPE="conclusion">
<PB N="32" REF="17">
<HEAD>And now, la&s;t of all, for Conclu&s;ion, I have &s;ome <HI>CON|SIDERATIONS</HI> to pre&s;ent to the People of <HI>England,</HI> and particularly to the People of <HI>London,</HI> occa&s;ioned by the Publication of <HI>Semper Iidem.</HI></HEAD>
<DIV3 N="1" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>I.</HEAD>
<P>COn&s;ider how the Antient Martyrs, as <HI>Wickliff, Hawkes</HI> and <HI>Cranmer, Latimer, Ridley,</HI> with many more, who have been accounted by the Prote&s;tants them&s;elves, <HI>famous</HI> for <HI>Piety</HI> and <HI>Faithfulne&s;s,</HI> and honourably e&s;teemed <HI>Innocent Martyrs,</HI> for their Witne&s;s-bearing again&s;t the <HI>Romi&s;h Idola|tries,</HI> and this for many years in the&s;e Kingdoms; how, I &s;ay, they are now rendred <HI>Odious</HI> and <HI>Contemptible,</HI> and <HI>&s;corned</HI> and <HI>&s;landered</HI> as <HI>Hereticks, &s;editious factious Bla&s;phemers,</HI> and <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> by the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> and this pub|li&s;hed <HI>openly</HI> through the Nation, and <HI>up and down the &s;treets of London,</HI> and this without <HI>rebuke</HI> of any in Authority that we know of! I &s;ay, this de&s;erves &s;erious Con&s;ideration, that the <HI>faithful Martyrs</HI> in their day, according to their know|ledge, who were as the <HI>fir&s;t Fathers</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tant Church</HI> (&s;o called) and did lay down their Lives, and &s;eal their Te&s;ti|monie with their Blood again&s;t the Idolatry of the then pre|&s;ent times: and the Lives and Blood of the&s;e men now to be made <HI>void,</HI> and they that <HI>martyred them</HI> ju&s;tified, as doing of Ju&s;tice, and they now reputed <HI>Hereticks</HI> and <HI>Phanaticks</HI> publickly; this ought to be con&s;idered both in the Cau&s;e why it is thus, and in the Effect of it, if it be not re&s;trained.</P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="2" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>II.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, how that the <HI>generality of the People of</HI> England <HI>and</HI> London, are reputed and &s;tand under the pre&s;ent <HI>Reproach</HI> of being <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> even all the People of <HI>England,</HI> I &s;ay, except the <HI>Papi&s;ts;</HI> not only the <HI>Separati&s;ts</HI> from the Church of
<PB N="33" REF="17"><HI>England,</HI> as <HI>Quakers, Anabapti&s;ts, Independents</HI> (&s;o called) and the re&s;t, but the <HI>Presbyterians</HI> and <HI>Epi&s;copals,</HI> and all of that way; and the&s;e Profe&s;&s;ions &s;tand in Reputation, and are accounted <HI>Phanaticks</HI> and <HI>Hereticks,</HI> even <HI>William Pryn</HI> him&s;elf; and this is manife&s;t by the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> who hath <HI>reviled</HI> and <HI>reproached</HI> all the People of <HI>England publickly</HI> and <HI>openly:</HI> For, &s;eeing the <HI>Antient Martyrs,</HI> the Fathers (&s;o accounted) of the Church of <HI>England</HI> are villi|fied as <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> Then mu&s;t needs follow, that the Church of <HI>England,</HI> even in the way of <HI>Epi&s;copacy</HI> (as being in their own account <HI>the Succe&s;&s;ors</HI> of the <HI>Martyrs</HI> in &s;ome things at lea&s;t) are al&s;o <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and &s;uch as <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> &s;aith, the <HI>Old Phanaticks</HI> were: for the men being reputed <HI>Phana|ticks,</HI> who were as the <HI>Fathers,</HI> then needs mu&s;t the <HI>Children</HI> be the &s;ame; and this de&s;erves <HI>&s;erious con&s;ideration</HI> by the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> of <HI>England.</HI></P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="3" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>III.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider how the very <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> it &s;elf of <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> in this their long Conte&s;t for the&s;e many years, <HI>with,</HI> and <HI>again&s;t the Church of Rome,</HI> is now <HI>weakened,</HI> and even, as it &s;eems, in a way of <HI>lo&s;&s;e</HI> and <HI>decay;</HI> being now <HI>reproached</HI> and held under <HI>publick &s;corn</HI> in <HI>England</HI> by <HI>Semper Iidem;</HI> I &s;ay, the <HI>very <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> of the Prote&s;tants</HI> is now <HI>&s;truck at,</HI> and <HI>beat again&s;t,</HI> and &s;ought <HI>to be de&s;troyed,</HI> being already <HI>defamed</HI> and <HI>reviled,</HI> as appears by the di&s;cour&s;e of the <HI>namele&s;s Author,</HI> who hath rendred the <HI>Antient Martyrs</HI> (that promoted as much as they could the <HI>Prote&s;tants Cau&s;e</HI> again&s;t the Church of <HI>Rome,</HI> and dyed for it, many of them &s;ealing the <HI>Cau&s;e</HI> with their <HI>Blood</HI>) as <HI>Hereticks, Erroneous Rebels</HI> and <HI>Phanaticks,</HI> and hath al&s;o rendred <HI>Fox,</HI> and his <HI>Acts</HI> and <HI>Monuments,</HI> who hath hitherto in <HI>England</HI> been counted a <HI>true Reporter</HI> and <HI>Hi&s;torian</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tants Sufferings,</HI> as invalid as po&s;&s;ible, even that he is <HI>a Lyar,</HI> and his Chronology <HI>Untruths;</HI> and hath ju&s;tified Queen <HI>Mary</HI> and the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> who put the Martyrs to death. And the&s;e things con&s;idered duly and
<PB N="34" REF="18">ju&s;tly, how is the <HI>Prote&s;tants Cau&s;e</HI> it &s;elf <HI>&s;truck at</HI> and <HI>wea|kened,</HI> and, as it were, the very <HI>Victory</HI> given to the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> in this long Quarrel between them, ever &s;ince <HI>Henry</HI> the Eight's dayes, and long before?</P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="4" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>IV.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, How the <HI>Papi&s;ts Cau&s;e</HI> &s;eems to be <HI>Reviving</HI> in <HI>England,</HI> and how bold the Members of the Church of <HI>ROME</HI> are of late dayes growing, as to appear &s;o pub|lickly in Print, Ju&s;tifying <HI>their own Cau&s;e</HI> as good; as Q. <HI>Mary,</HI> and the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> in her days, in <HI>Martyring</HI> and <HI>Burning</HI> the <HI>Prote&s;tants, and <HI>Condemning</HI></HI> the <HI>Martyrs,</HI> of the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> as <HI>Hereticks</HI> and <HI>Phanaticks;</HI> This I &s;ay, is great boldne&s;s in <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> more than hath been for this <HI>hundred of years,</HI> and a &s;igne of a <HI>Reviving</HI> and <HI>Recovering</HI> of their Cau&s;e more than hath been for many years; who dur&s;t not any of them appear &s;o <HI>Publick</HI> as the Author of <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath done, with that <HI>Boldne&s;s</HI> and <HI>Courage,</HI> to Ju&s;tifie the <HI>Papi&s;ts Cau&s;e</HI> and Condemn the <HI>Prote&s;tants:</HI> For if &s;uch a Di&s;cour&s;e as <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> had been <HI>brought forth</HI> and <HI>publi&s;hed</HI> in the dayes of Queen <HI>Elizabeth,</HI> which were Darker dayes than the&s;e are, it is po&s;&s;ible it would not have been &s;uffered <HI>to be cried <HI>up</HI></HI> and <HI>down London,</HI> but <HI>Re&s;train|ed</HI> and <HI>Condemned</HI> for the <HI>Fire;</HI> But now the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> have taken Confidence to them&s;elves, and are of better hopes then formerly, even that they &s;hall have <HI>Fire</HI> and <HI>Fag|got <HI>againe,</HI></HI> and to <HI>Burn</HI> and <HI>De&s;troy</HI> &s;uch as <HI>differ</HI> and <HI>di&s;cent</HI> from them, whom they may call <HI>Hereticks</HI> and <HI>Pha|naticks.</HI> And this I ob&s;erve from the Spirit of <HI>Semper Iidem.</HI></P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="5" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>V.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, The <HI>Nature,</HI> and <HI>Con&s;titution,</HI> and <HI>Dispo&s;ition</HI> of the Spirit of the Church of <HI>ROME,</HI> How that it is <HI>not Changed,</HI> but the <HI>Self-&s;ame</HI> as <HI>ever</HI> it <HI>was, Viz. A Spirit
<PB N="35" REF="18">of <HI>Murder</HI></HI> and <HI>Cruelty,</HI> that hath <HI>Killed</HI> and <HI>Martyred</HI> &s;uch as have <HI>Differed from them,</HI> and been <HI>Contrary minded</HI> in Re|ligious matters, and it would work and bring to pa&s;s the &s;ame &s;till, if it had its Power without Limitation in <HI>England.</HI> The <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> I &s;ay, would <HI>Burn, Kill</HI> and <HI>Torture,</HI> &s;uch as they judge <HI>Hereticks,</HI> and all that cannot <HI>Bow,</HI> and <HI>Bend,</HI> and <HI>Conform,</HI> to their <HI>Ways,</HI> and <HI>Injunctions,</HI> and <HI>Religion;</HI> This they would be at again in <HI>England</HI> if it were in their Power, as it was heretofore: I &s;ay, this ought to be Con|&s;idered, even the <HI>Cruelty</HI> of that Spirit, and what <HI>Danger</HI> there is in it to give way to the Exaltation of that Spirit, and to Embrace it in the lea&s;t, whereby to give it occa&s;ion to get into the Power and Judgement Seat; For if it doth, <HI>then <HI>Fire,</HI></HI> and <HI>Faggot,</HI> and <HI>Killing,</HI> and <HI>Burning,</HI> about <HI>Reli|gion,</HI> will <HI>openly appear again,</HI> and this &s;eems to be manife&s;t by the Con&s;titution of the Spirit of <HI>Semper Iidem,</HI> which may give good and whol&s;ome Cautions, that the Spirit of the <HI>Pa|pi&s;ts,</HI> is &s;till a <HI>Cruel Spirit,</HI> and would <HI>De&s;troy</HI> all that <HI>Differ</HI> from their Way, if they had Power; and that, that Spirit is not to be Hugged and Embraced, nor &s;et highe&s;t le&s;t the Ef|fect of it prove <HI>Woful</HI> to <HI>England,</HI> by bringing forth again what it once did, in Renewing <HI>Fire</HI> and <HI>Faggot;</HI> for this is the Di&s;po&s;ition of the Spirit of the <HI>Romi&s;h Church,</HI> as is ap|parent by <HI>Semper Iidem.</HI></P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="6" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>VI.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, How <HI>Careful</HI> and <HI>Vigilant</HI> the People of <HI>Eng|land</HI> ought to be to <HI>wait</HI> and <HI>attend</HI> the Motions of the Spirit of the <HI>Church of ROME,</HI> le&s;t it <HI>in&s;inuate</HI> it &s;elf into <HI>Au|thority,</HI> and get its intended <HI>Advantage</HI> and <HI>Purpo&s;e,</HI> again&s;t the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> &amp; <HI>their Cau&s;e,</HI> and advance it &s;elf <HI>again&s;t them,</HI> and Promote its own Intere&s;t, and <HI>De&s;troy</HI> and <HI>Overturn theirs;</HI> For without all Controvercy that &s;ame Spirit is now at work to <HI>Agitate</HI> its De&s;ires, and according to its Old cour&s;e it's Hatching and Contriving, how to Promote its &s;elf, and De&s;troy all that's Contrary; It is <HI>Undermining</HI> and <HI>&s;ecret|ly
<PB N="36" REF="19">Surmi&s;ing</HI> its Opponents overthrow; that its &s;elf may be exalted; For that Spirit is diligent in its way, to take the le&s;t occa&s;ion for its &s;elf-advantage as is manife&s;t by <HI>Semper Iidem;</HI> And therefore the People of <HI>England</HI> ought al&s;o to be Careful and Diligent in their <HI>Cau&s;e,</HI> to Pre&s;erve them|&s;elves, and their Intere&s;t, from the Defeat of the <HI>Church</HI> of <HI>ROME,</HI> and they ought <HI>to watch</HI> again&s;t that Spirit, to keep it in <HI>Subjection,</HI> under <HI>Authority</HI> and <HI>Command,</HI> and not to Exalt it into <HI>Command over them,</HI> le&s;t they be Subjected to the <HI>Idolatries</HI> and <HI>Oppre&s;&s;ions,</HI> and <HI>Per&s;ecutions</HI> of that Spirit to their own <HI>De&s;truction,</HI> both of <HI>Per&s;ons, E&s;tates,</HI> and <HI>Religion;</HI> For that Spirit will attempt always to Rule, and if it Rule, then will follow Con&s;equently, an utter overthrow of the <HI>Prote&s;tants Per&s;ons</HI> and <HI>Cau&s;e,</HI> That will be the <HI>Effect</HI> of the Authority of it, though it may bear hand in hand in &s;eeming Love, and good Agreement with the <HI>Protestants,</HI> till it hath gained its de&s;ired end over them, which is <HI>to Promote</HI> it &s;elf, and <HI>Subdue</HI> by <HI>Burning</HI> and <HI>Cruel Tortures,</HI> all that which is Contrary to it: Let the People of <HI>England</HI> Con&s;ider this matter, now while it is time, and be Watchful over the Mo|tions of that Spirit, and not put Confidence in it to far, nor to commit too much Credit upon it, even as they love their own Safety and Peace, which are concerned in this Ca&s;e.</P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="7" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>VII.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, Into what a <HI>greater Danger</HI> the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> and People of <HI>England</HI> have run them&s;elves by flying from <HI>a Le&s;s;</HI> For by avoiding the <HI>Sectaries</HI> (&s;o called) they have run them&s;elves into the <HI>very Borders <HI>of Popery;</HI></HI> and to e&s;cape a <HI>Le&s;s Danger,</HI> they have expo&s;ed them&s;elves to a <HI>far Greater;</HI> For the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> cried out of the <HI>Sectaries,</HI> and were afraid their <HI>Church</HI> and <HI>Religion</HI> &s;hould be overthrown <HI>by them,</HI> and made ha&s;te to e&s;cape and fly from the danger, and in &s;o do|ing they have (as it appears by <HI>Semper Iidem</HI>) run them&s;elves into a danger <HI>far Greater,</HI> even to have <HI>their Religion,</HI> and <HI>Per&s;ons,</HI> and <HI>E&s;tates <HI>De&s;troyed</HI></HI> by <HI>Fire</HI> and <HI>Faggot,</HI> if the
<PB N="37" REF="19">Spirit that indited <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath its de&s;ired end, which is grown <HI>Bold</HI> and <HI>Confident,</HI> more than formerly; Thus while the <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> have fought to <HI>De&s;troy</HI> the <HI>Sectaries,</HI> an Enemy is <HI>appearing</HI> to <HI>de&s;troy them,</HI> and they have expo&s;ed them|&s;elves (if <HI>Popery</HI> prevail) to an Enemy <HI>far <HI>more Cruel</HI></HI> and <HI>De&s;tructive</HI> to both their <HI>Per&s;ons, E&s;tates</HI> and <HI>Religion,</HI> than ever the <HI>Sectaries</HI> would have been, had they <HI>Prevailed:</HI> And this is con&s;iderable to the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> that they may Lament their Ca&s;e who have run them&s;elves into a far <HI>grater danger,</HI> of their own <HI>De&s;truction</HI> to e&s;cape a <HI>Le&s;s,</HI> and are in pre&s;ent Reproach, by the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> and expo&s;ed to <HI>Destruction</HI> if they prevail.</P>
</DIV3>
<DIV3 N="8" TYPE="section">
<HEAD>VIII.</HEAD>
<P>Con&s;ider, How <HI>favourable</HI> the <HI>Church</HI> of <HI>ROME,</HI> &s;eems <HI>to grow</HI> of the&s;e <HI>late dayes</HI> in the&s;e <HI>Kingdoms,</HI> and what <HI>Digni|ty,</HI> &s;he &s;eems <HI>to have attained to,</HI> be&s;ides of times pa&s;t; and what <HI>Liberty</HI> &s;he <HI>enjoys;</HI> more than many of the good Sub|jects of <HI>England,</HI> which may as <HI>ju&s;tly</HI> have the <HI>Priviledge</HI> of <HI>Liberty,</HI> in their exerci&s;e of <HI>Faith,</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip,</HI> and <HI>Religion,</HI> as &s;he can have: As for In&s;tance, In <HI>Ireland</HI> where the <HI>Pa|pi&s;ts</HI> have the enjoyment of <HI>their Liberty <HI>to Meet</HI></HI> to <HI>hear <HI>Ma&s;s,</HI> very frequently,</HI> and are not <HI>Re&s;trained</HI> nor <HI>Prohibited;</HI> and many of the <HI>Engli&s;h Inhabitants,</HI> known <HI>Faithful Prote|&s;tants</HI> are not <HI>admitted</HI> the like <HI>Liberty,</HI> but their <HI>Meetings broken up</HI> and they <HI>&s;ent to Pri&s;on</HI> and <HI>cruelly Per&s;ecuted,</HI> for <HI>meeting together,</HI> when the <HI>Papi&s;ts</HI> are not medled withall for the <HI>&s;ame Cau&s;e;</HI> and thus <HI>their Cau&s;e</HI> &s;eems more to be <HI>fa|voured</HI> than the <HI>Prote&s;tants,</HI> and they more <HI>Liberty</HI> in their wor&s;hip than many of the <HI>Engli&s;h Prote&s;tants.</HI> And al&s;o in and about <HI>London,</HI> upon &s;earch you &s;hall find, <HI>Meetings of the Papi&s;ts, <HI>Large ones too,</HI></HI> con&s;i&s;ting of <HI>very many Forreigners</HI> of <HI>other Lands,</HI> which have their <HI>Liberty</HI> of <HI>Wor&s;hip</HI> and <HI>Pro|fe&s;&s;ion</HI> of <HI>Religion;</HI> and divers of the <HI>Inhabitants</HI> of the <HI>City,</HI> who have <HI>been,</HI> and are <HI>known, Upright, Hone&s;t</HI> and <HI>Ju&s;t Per|&s;ons</HI> and are <HI>true Prote&s;tants,</HI> and <HI>faithful Subjects</HI> of the Land,
<PB N="38" REF="20">are not <HI>admitted</HI> to have <HI>their Meetings,</HI> but are <HI>haled</HI> out of <HI>Meetings, Per&s;ecuted,</HI> and &s;ent <HI>to Pri&s;on,</HI> and <HI>cruel Sufferings</HI> inflicted upon them, for the Exerci&s;e of their <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip;</HI> when as the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> are admitted their <HI>Liberty</HI> with|out <HI>Per&s;ecution</HI> in the &s;ame Cau&s;e, for which many good <HI>Pro|te&s;tants</HI> are <HI>Per&s;ecuted,</HI> and not <HI>&s;uffered</HI> to have their <HI>Liberty,</HI> even in the Exerci&s;e of their <HI>Faith</HI> and <HI>Wor&s;hip,</HI> and this is ma|fe&s;t to all People; By which it is plain how the <HI>Papi&s;ts Cau&s;e <HI>is Advancing,</HI></HI> and the <HI>Prote&s;tants Cau&s;e <HI>Decaying</HI> in LON|DON,</HI> and <HI>through ENGLAND;</HI> when as the <HI>Papi&s;ts,</HI> and that <HI>Foreigners,</HI> have <HI>more Liberty</HI> in the Exerci&s;e of <HI>their Religion,</HI> then &s;ome <HI>Prote&s;tants</HI> have that are <HI>Natives,</HI> and known to be <HI>good Subjects:</HI> And the&s;e things de&s;erve <HI>true</HI> and <HI>&s;erious Con&s;ideration</HI> by all <HI>good Prote&s;tants.</HI> Alas that this day &s;hould be &s;een! Many more <HI>Con&s;iderations</HI> might be A&s;|&s;erted, in this ca&s;e, of the <HI>Papi&s;ts Cau&s;e</HI> being as it were <HI>Re|viving,</HI> but the&s;e for pre&s;ent are pre&s;ented to the Publick View of all People; <HI>And ble&s;&s;ed are they that have an Ear to Hear.</HI></P>
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<P>IT is to be ob&s;erved, That although the <HI>Author</HI> of the &s;aid <HI>Semper Iidem</HI> hath not been &s;o bold as to &s;et <HI>his Name</HI> thereunto: Yet <HI>Richard Lownds Book-&s;eller,</HI> appears <HI>publickly</HI> enough with his Name to it in the&s;e words following: <HI>Viz.</HI></P>
<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed for <HI>Richard Lownds,</HI> at the &s;ign of the <HI>White Lyon</HI> in <HI>St. Pauls</HI> Church-Yard, over again&s;t the <HI>Little North Door.</HI> 1661.</P>
<P>At who&s;e Shop the Books have been <HI>publickly</HI> &s;old, and (I &s;uppo&s;e) &s;till are <HI>privately,</HI> if not as <HI>formerly.</HI></P>
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