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<P>CERTAINE REASONS, Proouing the Separation, commonly called <HI>Brownists,</HI> to be Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>By <HI>WILLIAM GILGATE,</HI> Mini&s;ter <HI>of the Word of God.</HI></P>
<Q><BIBL>GALAT. 5.19, 20, 21.</BIBL>
<P>The works of the fle&s;h are manife&s;t,&mdash;Seditions,&mdash;whereof I tell you before, as I haue told you before, that they that doe &s;uch things, &s;hall not inherit the Kingdome of God.</P></Q>
<P>LONDON Printed by <HI>W. Stansby</HI> for <HI>Nathaniel Butter,</HI> and are to be &s;old at his &s;hop neare S^t. <HI>Augu&s;tines</HI> gate, at the &s;igne of the Pyde Bull. 1621.</P>
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<HEAD>The Preface to the Reader.</HEAD>
<P>_HAuing &s;ome yeares &s;ince &s;uffered &s;hipwracke in the gulfe of Separati|on, and by Gods gracious hand ha|uing beene lifted out, and &s;aued from drowning in the&s;e waues, I thinke it my du|ty to di&s;cry to others the danger and e&s;cape of tho&s;e pa&s;&s;ages to and from Am&s;terdam. I left the&s;e Arguments of mine with Master <HI>Henry Ain&s;worth,</HI> Preacher to the &s;ame Engli&s;h at Am&s;terdam, calling them&s;elues the Separation, commonly called <HI>Browni&s;ts;</HI> that hee and his might &s;ee, how I not ra&s;hly, but for iu&s;t cau&s;e left them. Sithence that, I haue beene inwardly moued to publi&s;h them in print, that they al&s;o who &s;till &s;ticke in that pit, may at length perceiue on what a &s;andy foundation the Separation is built; and for&s;aking the &s;ame with mee and o|thers, may labour to build them&s;elues vpon the Rocke Chri&s;t, &s;o as the gates of Hell may not pre|uaile again&s;t them, to plucke them from the one
<PB REF="3"> Body, whereof hee is the one onely Head. Be|cau&s;e they per&s;wade them&s;elues, that their man|ner of &s;eparation is the &s;ame that the holy Scrip|tures doe warrant, I haue &s;et downe their Rea|&s;ons grounded on two chiefe places of the &s;ame, very firmely, as they imagine: but I haue &s;hewed that they wre&s;t them, as many other alleaged to that end, for the proofe of that which they re|proue. My rea&s;ons &s;hewing their Separation to be a Schi&s;me, I haue &s;et downe briefly. This I haue done, not of hatred to any of their per&s;ons, or any truth of Chri&s;t, which they hold with the true Churches of God; but of &s;incere loue toward them; that they might acknowledge and for&s;ake this worke of the fle&s;h, Schi&s;me I meane, which among other excludeth men from the Kingdome of God; which I pray God to be&s;tow vpon all his there and euery where. Amen.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>William Gilgate.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<HEAD>The rea&s;ons of the Separation, cal|led <HI>Browni&s;ts,</HI> taken out of two chiefe <HI>places of Scripture, an&s;wered.</HI></HEAD>
<P>GOD admoni&s;heth his people dwelling in Babylon, <HI>id e&s;t,</HI> Rome,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Reuel.</HI> 18 4.</NOTE> That at length ac|knowledging the filthine&s;&s;e of that Citie, they for&s;ake her:</P>
<P>Therefore hee willeth al&s;o all his people with &s;peed to come forth from the Pari&s;h A&s;&s;emblies in England.</P>
<P>I deny the con&s;equence. It followeth not; there is not the &s;ame rea&s;on. In the Church of Rome men continuing members, are partakers of their dam|nable errours and &s;innes; but it is not &s;o in the Pa|ri&s;h A&s;&s;emblies of the Church of England. Which is &s;o farre from beeing Babylon, that it is the &s;tron|ge&s;t and mo&s;t flouri&s;hing enemie of Babylon: In which regard it is mo&s;t deadly hated by the Anti|chri&s;t of Rome. Let the Separati&s;ts take heed le&s;t them&s;elues, vnder the pretence of hatred to Baby|lon, build vp a wor&s;e Babylon, or Babell of Confu|&s;ion in the Chri&s;tian Church.</P>
<P N="2">2. The beleeuers in the Church of Corinth,<NOTE PLACE="marg">2. <HI>Corin.</HI> 6.17.</NOTE> are for|bidden to haue fellow&s;hip with Infidels in Idola|trie, <HI>id e&s;t,</HI> in the holy Fea&s;ts they celebrated to the honour of Idols.</P>
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<P>Therefore they may not communicate with the Engli&s;h Pari&s;h A&s;&s;emblies in the Word of God, Sacraments, Prayer.</P>
<P>Here al&s;o is an incon&s;equence: They mu&s;t proue the people there to be Infidels, and tho&s;e meanes or helpes of Gods wor&s;hip to be Idols, and the v&s;ing of the &s;ame there, to be idolatrie.</P>
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<HEAD>Separatists are Schi&s;matiques.</HEAD>
<P>NAy, the Separation &s;eemeth the rather guil|tie of Idolatrie in adhering to, admiring, and euen adoring their owne dreames and new-fangled fancies.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">My rea&s;ons conuincing them of Schi&s;me.</NOTE>Where the Sonne of God &s;peaketh to men by his Go&s;pel, there we may heare him.</P>
<P>In the Engli&s;h Pari&s;h A&s;&s;emblies, Chri&s;t &s;peaketh to men by his Go&s;pel.</P>
<P>Therefore in tho&s;e Pari&s;h A&s;&s;emblies, wee may heare him. And by con&s;equence the Separation are Schi&s;matiques, refu&s;ing to heare him in any of the &s;aid A&s;&s;emblies.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Minor</HI> proued.</NOTE>Where men that were dead in &s;innes and tre&s;pa&s;|&s;es, by hearing doe liue &s;piritually, <HI>id e&s;t,</HI> doe reioice in God, ta&s;ting Gods fatherly fauour toward them in Chri&s;t, there the Sonne of God doth &s;peake to men by his Go&s;pel.</P>
<P>In the &s;aid A&s;&s;emblies, &s;ome men that were dead in &s;innes and tre&s;pa&s;&s;es doe liue &s;piritually, &amp;c.</P>
<P>Therefore in the &s;aid A&s;&s;emblies, at lea&s;t &s;ome of them, the Sonne of God doth &s;peake to men by his Go&s;pel.</P>
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<P>When I vrged this Argument to Mai&s;ter <HI>Ain&s;|worth,</HI> he could an&s;wer nothing but that Chri&s;t doth not at any time &s;peake to any by his Go&s;pell, in the Pari&s;h A&s;&s;emblies of the Church of Eng|land, and that none there doe liue by Faith. Which vncharitable and hatefull opinion of his, did make me the more to hate their vnchri&s;tian opinions.</P>
<P><MILESTONE N="2" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> They that con&s;enting with others in the doctrine of Saluation by Chri&s;t,<NOTE PLACE="marg">1. <HI>Cor.</HI> 1.10.11. <HI>Iud.</HI> 19.</NOTE> doe neuerthele&s;&s;e &s;eparate them&s;elues from them as touching &s;pirituall com|munion, are Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>The Separation doe con&s;ent with others in the doctrine of &s;aluation by Chri&s;t, and yet doe &s;epa|rate from them, as touching &s;pirituall communion.</P>
<P>Therefore they are Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>The Corinthians were guiltie of Schi&s;me in hea|ring &s;ome teachers, and not other&s;ome,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Maior</HI> proued.</NOTE> though teaching the &s;ame doctrine; and in not communica|ting at the Table of the Lord with them that pro|fe&s;&s;ed the &s;ame Faith of Chri&s;t with them&s;elues.<NOTE PLACE="marg">1. <HI>Cor.</HI> 11.21.</NOTE></P>
<P>Therefore the Separation are guiltie of Schi&s;me in doing the like.</P>
<P>The former had &s;ome &s;hew of rea&s;on for that they did: &s;o haue the latter.</P>
<P>Tho&s;e men that <HI>Iude</HI> &s;peaketh of were Schi&s;|matiques,<NOTE PLACE="marg">2. proofe of the <HI>Maior.</HI></NOTE> for &s;eparating them&s;elues from the god|ly, when they came together to the outward wor|&s;hip of God.</P>
<P>Therefore the Separation for doing the like, are likewi&s;e Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>Let them not fal&s;ly affirme, that they from whom they &s;eparate in the Pari&s;h-A&s;&s;emblies, are not god|ly;
<PB REF="5"> and that the outward wor&s;hip there v&s;ed is not Gods wor&s;hip, becau&s;e of I know not what preten|ded defects, and becau&s;e many wicked are mixed with them.</P>
<P><MILESTONE N="3" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> They that teach that in tho&s;e Churches, where open &s;inners are tolerated,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Reuel.</HI> 2.24. <HI>&amp;</HI> 3.4.</NOTE> no lawfull communion can be had in things of God, and thereupon refu&s;e to haue communion with the &s;ame, are Schi&s;ma|tikes.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">Rea&s;ons di&s;|cu&s;&s;ed, pag, 247. 249. The <HI>maior</HI> proued.</NOTE>The Separation doe teach this, &amp;c.</P>
<P>Therefore they are &s;chi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>Chri&s;t putteth no &s;uch burden vpon the faithfull in Thyatira and Sardis to &s;eparate them&s;elues, be|cau&s;e wicked men were tolerated in their Churches.</P>
<P>Therefore they are Schi&s;matiques that lay &s;uch a burden on the faithfull in England.</P>
<P><MILESTONE N="4" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> They that refu&s;e to haue communion in priuate prayer with tho&s;e,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Ephe&s;.</HI> 4.3.4.5.6.</NOTE> whom they may di&s;cern to haue communion with Chri&s;t, are &s;chi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>The Separation for the mo&s;t part doe this.</P>
<P>Therefore they are &s;chi&s;matiques.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">The <HI>maior</HI> proued.</NOTE>In refu&s;ing to haue communion with &s;uch, they &s;hew them&s;elues not to bee of the &s;ame body of Chri&s;t with them, nor to be led by the &s;ame Spirit, nor to haue the &s;ame Lord, and the &s;ame God and Father; and therefore are Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P><MILESTONE N="5" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> They that without iu&s;t cau&s;e, renounce all &s;piri|tuall communion in publique, with a true Church, are Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P>The Separation doe this.</P>
<P>Therefore they are Schi&s;matiques.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Minor</HI> proued.</NOTE>The Church of England is a true Church of God.</P>
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<P>The Separation renounce &s;pirituall communion with the Church of England in publique, and that without iu&s;t cau&s;e.</P>
<P>Therefore they without iu&s;t cau&s;e, renounce &s;pi|ritual communion in publique, with a true Church.</P>
<P>If the Church of England be the pillar of truth,<NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Maior</HI> proued.</NOTE> vpholding the heauenly truth,<NOTE PLACE="marg">1. <HI>Tim.</HI> 3.16. 1. proofe for the Church of England.</NOTE> again&s;t all heretiques and the Antichri&s;t of Rome, as pillars vphold a hou&s;e, then it is a true Church of God.</P>
<P>The fir&s;t is true. Therefore the &s;econd.</P>
<P>The Go&s;pel of our &s;aluation is the word of truth.<NOTE PLACE="marg">The antece|dent prooued. <HI>Ephe&s;.</HI> 1.13.</NOTE></P>
<P>The Church of England vpholdeth as a pillar, the Go&s;pel of our &s;aluation.</P>
<P>Therefore it vpholdeth the word of truth, and by con&s;equence it is a true Church.</P>
<P>Let them not here &s;tand to &s;hew a difference be|tweene the Church of England and Ephe&s;us. There may bee a difference betweene true Churches: not|with&s;tanding they are all true, that maintayne the word of truth, the Go&s;pell.</P>
<P>If the Church of England in Queene <HI>Maries</HI> time,<NOTE PLACE="marg">2. proofe for the Church of England.</NOTE> from the errours then maintayned being the princi|pall was rightly named a fal&s;e corrupted Church: then &s;ince Queene <HI>Elizabeths</HI> time, the &s;ame Church from the truth maintayned being the principall, is to be named a true Church.</P>
<P>When I mention the truth as principall onely, I argue out of the principles &s;uppo&s;ed by the Separa|ti&s;ts, namely, that there may be &s;ome inferior errors in the Church of England: As what Church in the world is free from erring in all things? Will the Sepa|ration boa&s;t that them&s;elues haue no errors in their
<PB REF="6"> Church. This taske I leaue to them, both of clearing them&s;elues from all error, and al&s;o of accu&s;ing the Church of England of any.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">Antecedent prooued.</NOTE>The denomination or naming of a thing is from the more principall: as it is named a heape of wheate, though much chaffe bee mixed with it; and hee is called not a &s;inner, but righteous, who&s;e &s;innes are forgiuen, and in whom &s;inne reigneth not, though he hath &s;inne dwelling in him, &amp; &s;ometimes &s;inneth of infirmitie: and hee is called a &s;pirituall man, in whom the regenerate part beareth the &s;way.</P>
<P>The errours in Queene <HI>Maryes</HI> time were the chiefe and principall; the truths were ouerwhelmed with the multitude of their errours.</P>
<P>Therefore from the &s;ame multitude of vntruths and errors then maintayned, it was to bee named a fal&s;e or corrupt Church: and therefore al&s;o &s;ince Queene <HI>Elizabeths</HI> time it is to bee named a true Church, the truths haue preuailed, and are the chiefe part.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">2. proofe of the Antece|dent.</NOTE>As the Spirits, or teachers are to be tryed by that &s;hort &s;umme of the Go&s;pel <HI>(Chri&s;t is come in the fle&s;h)</HI> and thereby are to bee iudged true or fal&s;e: &s;o by the &s;ame is a Church to bee iudged true or fal&s;e. From hence I frame this argument.</P>
<P>If they bee to bee accounted fal&s;e Teachers, who holding &s;ome truths of Chri&s;t, yet al&s;o holde &s;ome great errour contrary thereunto, as <HI>Cerinthus</HI> deny|ing Chri&s;ts godhead; then a Church, as that of Eng|land in Queene <HI>Maries</HI> time, was to bee accounted a fal&s;e Church, which profe&s;&s;ing in word that &s;entence concerning Chri&s;ts per&s;on and office, yet in the
<PB REF="6"> meane time defended opinions ouerthrowing the truth both of his natures and offices.</P>
<P>The fir&s;t is true. And therefore al&s;o the &s;econd.</P>
<P>If they are to be accounted true Teachers,<NOTE PLACE="marg">3. Proofe for the now Church of England to be a true Church.</NOTE> who keepe this foundation <HI>(Chri&s;t is come in the fle&s;h)</HI> and build not vpon it any Doctrine, ouerthrowing the &s;ame; then a Church, as that now of England, is to be held for a true Church, which retayneth this foundation of the Chri&s;tian Faith, and buildeth not vpon it any Doctrines, ouerthrowing the &s;ame.</P>
<P>The fir&s;t is true. Therefore the &s;econd.</P>
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<HEAD>The Separation haue no iu&s;t cau&s;e to &s;eparate as they doe, from the Church of England.</HEAD>
<P><MILESTONE N="6" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> IF a member of that Church may there not de|file his garments, then in hearing of the Word read and preached, in Prayer and receiuing the Sacraments, they haue no cau&s;e to renounce com|munion with that Church.</P>
<P>The fir&s;t is true; and therefore the &s;econd.</P>
<P>The &s;incere and pure profe&s;&s;ion of Chri&s;t,<NOTE PLACE="marg">Antecedent proued.</NOTE> from all filth and defilements of mon&s;trous opinions and vices, are tho&s;e garments.</P>
<P>A member of that Church may make there a pure profe&s;&s;ion of Chri&s;t, from all filth and defilements of mon&s;trous opinions and vices.</P>
<P>Therefore a member of that Church may there not defile his garments.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">2. Proofe.</NOTE> A member of that Church needeth not to bee in|fected with the company of the wicked there; hee
<PB REF="7"> may &s;eparate him&s;elfe from euery of them, but not from the Church where &s;uch are.</P>
<P>Therefore, a member of that Church may keepe his garments vndefiled.</P>
<P>And &s;o the Separation haue no iu&s;t cau&s;e to re|nounce communion with the Church of England in tho&s;e meanes of Gods wor&s;hip.</P>
<P><MILESTONE N="7" UNIT="Rea&s;on."> The French and Dutch reformed Churches are true Churches of God.</P>
<P>The Separation renounce &s;pirituall communion in publique with tho&s;e Churches.</P>
<P>Therefore, they renounce &s;pirituall communion in publique with true Churches.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">They haue no iu&s;t cau&s;e to doe it, becau&s;e they meet in Temples.</NOTE>If the difference of places bee taken away by Chri&s;t, euen as the difference of meates, that as Chri&s;tians may eate any meates; &s;o they may &s;erue God in any places: then the Temples they a&s;&s;emble in to wor&s;hip God, are no iu&s;t cau&s;e of renouncing communion with them.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg"><HI>Colo&s;&s;.</HI> 2.16.</NOTE>The fir&s;t is true: Therefore the &s;econd.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">1. <HI>Tim.</HI> 2.8.</NOTE>If they an&s;wer, the place of <HI>Paul</HI> to <HI>Timothy:</HI> Though he bids vs pray for all men, yet <HI>Iohn</HI> excep|teth one &s;ort, 1. <HI>Iohn</HI> 5. &s;o though he bids men pray euery where, yet one kind of place is excepted as euill to &s;erue God in: let them then name one of the Apo&s;tles, who hath made &s;uch an exception. I de|ny not that in the old Te&s;tament, there was in force &s;uch a difference of places, but it is taken away in the new Te&s;tament.</P>
<P><NOTE PLACE="marg">Nor becau&s;e they reade a &s;et forme of Prayer.</NOTE>If in a &s;et forme of prayer read, or &s;aid by heart, all things may be put in practice, required in accep|table prayer to God; then the v&s;ing thereof by the&s;e
<PB REF="7"> Churches, is no iu&s;t cau&s;e of their renouncing com|munion with them in publique.</P>
<P>The fir&s;t is true: Therefore the &s;econd.</P>
<P>The things asked of God may be &s;uch as are con|tayned <MILESTONE N="1"> in the Lords prayer. <MILESTONE N="2"> Wee may haue a &s;en&s;e of our wants, and a de&s;ire of the grace of God to &s;upply the &s;ame. <MILESTONE N="3"> Thirdly, Faith, whereby wee be|leeue and profe&s;&s;e, that God for his Sonne Chri&s;ts &s;ake, will in his due time grant vs our reque&s;ts.</P>
<P>Therefore, all things required in acceptable prayer to God (except they can &s;hew vs any moe) may be put in practice, in a &s;et forme of prayer, read, or &s;aid by heart.</P>
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