<!DOCTYPE ETS PUBLIC "-//UMDLPS//DTD EEBOPROOF 2.0//EN">
<ETS>
<TEMPHEAD>
<REVDESCR>
<CHANGE>
<DATE>2010-09-05</DATE>
<RESPSTMT>
<NAME>Mona Logarbo</NAME>
<RESP>MURP</RESP>
</RESPSTMT>
<ITEM>Proofed and reviewed as part of batch B100811.pdcc.</ITEM>
</CHANGE>
</REVDESCR>
</TEMPHEAD>
<EEBO>
<IDG S="marc" R="UM" ID="A90134">
<STC T="W">O257</STC>
<STC T="T">E551_6</STC>
<BIBNO T="umi">99864986</BIBNO>
<VID>117219</VID>
</IDG>
<TEXT LANG="eng">
<FRONT>
<DIV1 TYPE="title page">
<PB REF="1">
<PB REF="1" MS="y">
<P>THE SPEECH, OF Phillip Herbert, <HI>Late Earl of</HI> PEMBROKE.</P>
<P>At his Admittance (as a <HI>Member</HI>) into the Honorable Hou&s;e OF COMMONS, <HI>In</HI> Parliament <HI>A&s;&s;embled.</HI> Aprill 16. 1649.</P>
<P><HI>After he had been duely</HI> Elected <HI>a Burge&s;s</HI> for <HI>Berk&s;hire</HI> in &s;tead of Sir <HI>Francis Pils,</HI> lately di&s;cea&s;ed.</P>
<P><HI>Taken</HI> Verbatim <HI>by</HI> Michael Oldi&s;worth.</P>
<P>Printed in the Yeer. 1649.</P>
</DIV1>
</FRONT>
<BODY>
<DIV1 TYPE="speech">
<PB REF="2">
<PB N="3" REF="2">
<HEAD>THE SPEECH, OF Phillip Herbert, <HI>Late Earl of</HI> PEMBROKE.</HEAD>
<HEAD TYPE="sub">Many worthy Members, comming out of the Hou&s;e, received his Honer in with all respect, as a Member elected by the County of <HI>Berk&s;hire,</HI> in &s;tead of Sir <HI>Francis Pile</HI> di&s;cea&s;ed, where being no &s;ooner outred but he spake as followeth.</HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>Gentlemen,</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>FOr &s;o I can but now rightly call you all, though I know there be among&s;t you many worthy Lords, Knights and Burge&s;&s;es; yet &s;ince all Domination and Lord&s;hip is cryed down by the People, I think it my Duty to lay down the vanity of my <HI>Titles</HI> at the feet of this Supreame <HI>Authority,</HI> and <HI>Sinke me.</HI> I hold it the be&s;t Pollicy &s;o to doe; and the be&s;t hone&s;ty too; LORDS, EARLS, KINGS, DUKES are all but <HI>Markes</HI> of the
<PB N="4" REF="3"><HI>Gentiles,</HI> and cannot be proper to us Chri&s;tians, that &s;hould have wit enough to <HI>Rule</HI> our &s;elves, and not <HI>exerci&s;e Lord&s;hip</HI> over our brethren, he that would be <HI>chief among you,</HI> let him be your <HI>&s;er|vant, Damme,</HI> I have been your Servant, and will be your &s;ervant till death, I am an <HI>elect Member of this Hou&s;e,</HI> and no <HI>Ruler;</HI> nei|ther have I any de&s;ire to Rule: for a Ruler &s;hould have his <HI>rule,</HI> 'Zblood, doe ye make a Carpenter, or a Coxcombe on me, that ye think Ile be a <HI>ruler; Sinck me,</HI> I grow Old, it is enough for me to Rule my Hor&s;e, and not to a&s;&s;ume a <HI>Power</HI> to Rule others, for Ruling LORDS in an <HI>over-ruling &s;cence,</HI> is a <HI>thing</HI> that &s;tands nei|ther with <HI>rea&s;on, law, ju&s;tice</HI> nor Chri&s;tianity; <HI>D<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 chunk">,</HI> I thinke <GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="2 words"> lawfully <HI>Elected,</HI> and have as <HI>good quallities as another,</HI> and therefore may claime, have, and make u&s;e of any <HI>Priviledge</HI> of Parliament, either in relation to my Per&s;on. Quallitie or E&s;tate; <HI>Sink me</HI> and <HI>Damme,</HI> if I <HI>exerci&s;e Lord&s;hip</HI> over a worme: Judge me, I am as proud of <HI>Phillip Herbert,</HI> or <HI>Burge&s;se</HI> of Berk&s;hire, as I am of Earle of <HI>Pembroke,</HI> and my Rea&s;on, <HI>(Mr. Speaker) is this,</HI> I was PHILLIP HERBERT before I was Earle of <HI>Pembroke,</HI> and now I am Burge&s;&s;e for Berk&s;hire, and I Barke not, and bawle not, (if I &s;ee occa&s;ion) as well as the be&s;t &mdash; of you all, then let the County that choo&s;e me their <HI>mini&s;ter,</HI> and <HI>&s;ervant,</HI> complain of me, or turn me <HI>out,</HI> and <HI>choo&s;e</HI> another; No, Sink me, the Country ought not to be at the charge of keeping <HI>Doggs,</HI> and bark them&s;elves, or feed their <HI>Dogges</HI> &s;o <HI>high</HI> and lu&s;ty, that like <HI>Acteons,</HI> they devour their Ma&s;ters: Pardon me, (Mr. <HI>Speak|er</HI>) I hope you doe not conceive that I call the Parliament Dogs, I &s;peak concerning their vigillancy, to pre&s;erve their Ma&s;ters E|&s;tates, and in that point, I may (in my blunt language) liken them to Doggs; but every <HI>like is not the &s;ame;</HI> Mr. Speaker, conceive me aright, I would have you not to be Doggs, but as dogges, that is as I conceive, not to be Dumb <HI>doggs;</HI> I &s;hall ever hate a dumb Dogg, but SIR, I know you are no dumbe Dogge, becau&s;e you are <HI>Speaker.</HI></P>
<P><HI>Gentlemen,</HI>&mdash;<LB>
I am now received in, and made a <HI>Member</HI> of this honorable Hou&s;e of <HI>Commons,</HI> though it be a thing <HI>&s;trange,</HI> and not <HI>common</HI> in <HI>England</HI> for an Earl (as not long &s;ince I held my &s;elf to be) and a Member of the LORDS Hou&s;e to be made a Commoner,
<PB N="5" REF="3">or removed from the upper end to the Lower end of the Table, I am not &s;o void of Under&s;tanding, or <HI>common</HI> Scen&s;e, as not to think my &s;elf highly honored therwith, I am no re&s;pecter of Per|&s;ons or Places Sir, I know how to humble my &s;elf, and doe ac|knowledge it my Duty, not onely to lay downe my <HI>Titles and Dignities,</HI> but my life and <HI>Honors</HI> for the Good of the Common-Wealth,&mdash;<HI>Damme,</HI> 'tis not my Wealth that I prize above the Common-Wealth, though I love both, and would doe my utter|mo&s;t to pre&s;erve both, which I take to be the chief Cau&s;e of the Peoples chu&s;ing me to be their <HI>Repre&s;entative;</HI> 'Tis true, I was formerly cho&s;en Chancellor of <HI>Oxford,</HI> not onely by this honor|able Hou&s;e, but the Hou&s;e of LORDS then being, but con&s;idering my weak <HI>abillities</HI> in Divinity, being (I thank God) little troubl'd with the &s;ame, nor guilty of any more confu&s;ed or confounding <HI>langvages,</HI> then my owne <HI>Mother-tongue,</HI> and for <HI>Arts</HI> and Scien|ces, they never &s;hall trouble my head, I hold it my be&s;t Art and Science to pre&s;erve my&s;elf and my E&s;tate, and get more if I can; <HI>Damme,</HI> he that cares not for his Wealth, can never care for the Common-Wealth, for how can he that will not doe good for him&s;elf, doe good for Others; Charity ought to begin at home Mr. <HI>Speaker.</HI></P>
<P>Truly Gentlemen, I know not what <HI>errors</HI> are lately crept in|to that Univer&s;ity, but at my la&s;t Vi&s;itation I think I plagu'd them to purpo&s;e; <HI>Confound me,</HI> they had as good to have been Vi&s;ited with the <HI>plague</HI> as with me, for I &s;par'd none, right or rong, <HI>Dam|me,</HI> I think the Univer&s;ity was never better weeded &s;ince it was a Univer&s;ity, I pull'd up all the Popi&s;h <HI>Poppies,</HI> the Malignant <HI>may|weed,</HI> the <HI>thi&s;tles</HI> and <HI>hemlock</HI> that choaked the wheate, <HI>Damme,</HI> they had nigh choak'd me with fuming and &s;wearing at them, a Pox of their Rea&s;ons, they were <HI>logick</HI> to me, for I could under|&s;tand not one of them, and if I could, I would not, I had no &s;uch Order in my <HI>In&s;tructions,</HI> I acted as vigorou&s;ly as God would give me leave; I &s;par'd nere a &s;onne of <HI>Rome</HI> among&s;t them all, <HI>Damme,</HI> not my own God&s;on; 'Zblood, if my Father had been there a <HI>Schollar,</HI> and Popi&s;hly affected, (as I was told they were) he &s;hould have turn'd out with the re&s;t, M. <HI>Speaker,</HI> I hate a turn-coat and a Black-coat too. I love a Buffe-coat, or Mi&s;tris <HI>Mays</HI> Petty-coat, better then Popi&s;h Canonicall <HI>coats,</HI> Damme, if ye
<PB N="6" REF="4">were all of my minde <HI>(Gentlemen)</HI> you would pull down the Uni|ver&s;ities, they are but the Nur&s;es of Learning and Super&s;tition; <HI>Damme,</HI> Learning and Super&s;tition hath occa&s;ioned all the&s;e Warres, and Blood; <HI>Refu&s;e me,</HI> I had rather be a <HI>Sculler</HI> then a <HI>Schollar,</HI> the&s;e <HI>Arts</HI> and <HI>Sciences</HI> (as they call them) are dangerous Enemies to the <HI>State,</HI> and &s;teale and draw away the hearts and af|fections of the <HI>People</HI> from <HI>Martiall Affaires;</HI> and therefore (in my &s;imple judgement) it would redound much to the &s;trengthen|ing of the <HI>State,</HI> to change the property of them, and in &s;tead of making them Nurceries of <HI>learning,</HI> to make them <HI>fencing</HI> Schools, or Nurceries of <HI>Warre; Damme,</HI> this Kingdom has more need of <HI>Warring</HI> then <HI>learning,</HI> for all Chri&s;tendom threatens Us; therefore (Mr. <HI>Speaker</HI>) let us not alwayes be fooles, 'Zblood, I have &s;o much witt in my Block-head, That if I &s;ee a <HI>storme</HI> a comming, I can provide for &s;helter, the very <HI>hooggs</HI> teach me that, <HI>Gentle|men,</HI> I hate <HI>human learning, Damme</HI> I can learne as good a le&s;&s;on from a <HI>hogge,</HI> a <HI>hor&s;e,</HI> a <HI>Dogge</HI> or a <HI>Catt,</HI> as from the be&s;t Divine in <HI>England;</HI> Pox, am I not a <HI>lay</HI>-man? and can I <HI>lay</HI> out my time in in any thing better then <HI>lay learning;</HI> Be&s;ides I am a <HI>State&s;man,</HI> (I know nothing to the contrary) but that I may <HI>&s;tate</HI> my Que&s;tion then, That as I am no <HI>divine,</HI> &s;o that J may not meddle any more with <HI>divinity,</HI> J am no <HI>ruler,</HI> and therefore, if they cannot learne the Witt to rule them&s;elves, let them be unrul'd; for J have done my part with them; <HI>Gentlemen,</HI> J hold the Chancellor&s;hip a fitter place for my Man <HI>Oldi&s;worth,</HI> or Mr. <HI>Peters</HI> then my &s;elf, and there|fore if your <HI>wi&s;doms</HI> think fit, J de&s;ire to be di&s;charged therefrom, becau&s;e the <HI>&s;elf-denying Ordinance</HI> forbids (as J take it) to hold two Places in the <HI>Common-wealth,</HI> therefore J de&s;ire to leave the one to the intent, that J may minde, and apply my &s;elf the better to the other; <HI>Damme,</HI> J cannot &s;erve two ma&s;ters, the Church and the <HI>State</HI> too, God and the &mdash; Parliaments; if it plea&s;e this honorable Hou&s;e, (J conceive) one <HI>Office</HI> is enough for one man, therefore J &s;hall betake my &s;elf only to <HI>doe my Bu&s;ine&s;&s;e</HI> in this Hou&s;e, that the County that <HI>chu&s;e</HI> me may be the better for it; <HI>Gentlemen,</HI> J need not be a&s;ham'd to <HI>doe my bu&s;ine&s;&s;e</HI> in this Hou&s;e, and was never <HI>backward</HI> ye know in any <HI>good office,</HI> and would <HI>&s;traine</HI> my &s;elf as much for the good of the <HI>State,</HI> as Alder|man <HI>Adkins,</HI> or any <HI>Member</HI> of you all; &amp; &s;hall <HI>untru&s;&s;e</HI> my pur&s;e|&s;trings
<PB N="7" REF="4">too, upon any ju&s;t and hone&s;t <HI>occa&s;ion;</HI> Gentlemen, as J have alwayes lov'd you dearly, &s;o J hope you will <HI>love</HI> me a|gaine, for my great Affection to you, &s;hould draw your great Af|fection to me, and indeed, we are <HI>brethren,</HI> and <HI>brethren</HI> ought to love, and <HI>agree</HI> with one another; <HI>Damme,</HI> the very Devills can <HI>agree</HI> with one another, and cannot wee? 'Zblood, are we wor&s;e then <HI>Devills?</HI> Our grand <HI>Enemy</HI> (the King) is now cut <HI>off,</HI> and mu&s;t wee needs be <HI>enemyes</HI> to one another, and cut <HI>off one another too;</HI> Beleeve me, <HI>Lilburne</HI> de&s;erves to be hang'd, and <HI>Overton</HI> to be <HI>turn'd over</HI> a ladder, and <HI>Prince</HI> the Chee&s;emonger to be &s;erv'd in the &s;ame kinde, as the <HI>Prince</HI> of <HI>Wales,</HI> that they dare be &s;o impu|dent bold as to tax the Parliament, or the Coun&s;ell of STATE with <HI>inju&s;tice,</HI> or <HI>Tyranny:</HI> Damme, 'Tis at lea&s;t Trea&s;on and Non&s;cen&s;e but to think &s;o, and, Sink me, 'tis a thou&s;and times wor&s;e to &s;ay &s;o, or to write &s;o, and &s;hew the People <HI>rea&s;on</HI> for it too; A <HI>Pox</HI> of all <HI>rea&s;ons,</HI> and <HI>rea&s;onings</HI> for me, J never lov'd it in all my life; Zounds, <HI>break</HI> a mans head, and give him a <HI>rea&s;on</HI> for it, as the <HI>Scot</HI> &s;erv'd me, when he &s;witch'd me over the face, broke my head with my own &s;taffe of <HI>office,</HI> and then gave me a <HI>rea&s;on</HI> for it, and that was all the &s;atisfaction J could have for that Af|front, Damme I hate a <HI>Scott,</HI> as I hate a <HI>rea&s;on,</HI> and hate a <HI>rea&s;on</HI> as I hate the Devill, Rea&s;oning is neither better nor wor&s;e then Treating, and we all Know, TREATING is a <HI>Malignant</HI> and an <HI>Enemy to the State,</HI> and if the <HI>Treaty</HI> had taken effect, 'Zblood we might all have been hang'd and Damm'd before this: No, <HI>rea&s;on</HI> is dangerous in a <HI>State;</HI> neither is the State bound to render any <HI>rea&s;on</HI> to <HI>Lilburne, Overton,</HI> or any body el&s;e for their Actions, or what ever they doe; had it not been for Rea&s;oning, wee had &s;etled the <HI>Suprcame Authority</HI> on the People long agoe, and then we had had Peace, and a &s;etled STATE; How &s;imple is it to thinke that a Parliament is unju&s;t, or can erre, thats a likely mat|ter indeed? No, Parliaments are cho&s;en by the People, becau&s;e they cannot <HI>erre? KINGS</HI> may <HI>erre, as David,</HI> and the late King did; But when did you ever read in the <HI>Bible,</HI> that a Parliament could <HI>erre,</HI> or had <HI>erred.</HI> And thus <HI>I</HI> hope <HI>I</HI> have given you Sati&s;|faction in this point.</P>
<P>For this your Act of Leavying <HI>Money, I</HI> give my free con&s;ent, Pray what can be done without money, Damme, Souldiers that
<PB N="8" REF="5">fight for <HI>Money,</HI> mu&s;t have money; and though J am no Souldier my &s;elf, yet Damme, <HI>I</HI> love a Souldier with all my heart, and he that fights for money, let him winne Money, and (Sinke me,) if he winnes it, let him weare it <HI>too; Zblood,</HI> where &s;hould we have money for <HI>Souldiers,</HI> but of the Countreys and Cities whom they fight to pre&s;erve; unle&s;&s;e they would have us <HI>pay</HI> them out of <HI>our owne E&s;tates;</HI> but &s;urely there is none in this <HI>Honorable Hou&s;e,</HI> but has more Frugallity, or at lea&s;t more Witt, then to part with any of their <HI>owne</HI> E&s;tates; Doe we not labour, and &s;pend our time for the <HI>Good of the</HI> Common-wealth, and &s;hall the Common-wealth deny to &s;pend their <HI>money</HI> for Us; Zblood, time is precious, (Mr. <HI>Speaker</HI>) and God refu&s;e me, wee have &s;pent a long time in their Service (at lea&s;t Eight yeers) and can|not &s;o much as have a good <HI>word for our paines;</HI> Ram me, Sinck me, and Damme me, it were a good deed to give <HI>over,</HI> and leave them to them&s;elves, and then we &s;hould have a Kingdome well Governed; Damme, <HI>I</HI> am out of breath, and therefore will con|clude my Speech.</P>
<CLOSER>Vera Copia, <SIGNED>Your Affectionat <HI>Servant, PEMBROKE &amp; MONTGOMERY.</HI></SIGNED></CLOSER>
<TRAILER>FINIS.</TRAILER>
</DIV1>
</BODY>
</TEXT>
</EEBO>
</ETS>
