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<P>SEVERALL INFORMATIONS AND EXAMINATIONS Taken concerning Lieutenant Colonell Iohn Lilburn, CONCERNING HIS APOSTACY to the Party of Charles Stuart. And his Intentions in coming over into ENGLAND out of FLANDERS.</P>
<P>LONDON, Printed by <HI>H. Hills,</HI> and for <HI>G. Calvert</HI> and <HI>T. Brew&s;ter,</HI> and are to be &s;old at the Black-&s;pread <HI>Eagle</HI> and the three <HI>Bibles</HI> at and near the We&s;t-end of <HI>Pauls</HI> 1653.</P>
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<HEAD>A Perfect Narrative of what pa&s;&s;ages I ob&s;erved from Lieut. Col. <HI>Joh. Lilburn,</HI> and others, touching him in <HI>Flanders.</HI></HEAD>
<P>_About the beginning of <HI>Iuly</HI> 1652. I was imploy|ed on the behalf of this Common-wealth into <HI>Holland,</HI> and <HI>Flanders,</HI> and landing at <HI>Ost|end,</HI> I found a number of very de&s;perate enemies of all &s;orts to this Commonwealth, with whom I ob&s;erved Lieut. C. <HI>Lilburn</HI> much to a&s;&s;ociate; and having ob&s;erved before his re&s;tle&s;ne&s;s of &s;pirit, and that his late actions had rend<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">ed him &s;o obnoxious to this Common-wealth, that incurred an Act of Bani&s;hment upon him&s;elf; I therefore ap|plyed my &s;elf to find out what his endeavours at pre&s;ent drove at: And to this purpo&s;e it was not long before I found that Lieut. Col. <HI>Lilburn</HI> had been very conver&s;ant with Cap. <HI>Ioh. Bartlet,</HI> and to whom he had imparted &s;everall &s;ecrets, as he him&s;elf called them, the &s;aid Cap. <HI>Iohn Bartlet</HI> who told me, that there were many de|linquents and Cavaliers of dangerous con&s;equence that e&s;caped out of <HI>England</HI> to that Town of <HI>O&s;tend,</HI> whom L. C. <HI>Lilburn</HI> no &s;ooner heard of, but came to them, and in as gro&s;s a manner as he could, did endeavour to le&s;&s;en the Ju&s;tice, Honor, and power of this Commonwealth, and this in &s;o vile and &s;curilous language, as produc'd rather a wonder than an affection in its chiefe&s;t adver&s;a|ries, as was &s;everal times confe&s;&s;ed to me by &s;everal of them with whom he convers'd. Cap. <HI>Bartlet</HI> as well as &s;everal others further told me that L. C. <HI>Iohn Lilburn</HI> kept great corre&s;pondencies with &s;everal people in <HI>England,</HI> and that one <HI>Sanctly</HI> Mr. <HI>Prinns</HI> man he conceived did &s;end away his letters, for which purpo&s;e the Lie. Col. every Saturday came from <HI>Bruges</HI> to <HI>O&s;tend,</HI> and having wrote them, on the Monday following he returned, as I my &s;elf often ob|&s;erved
<PB N="2" REF="3">him to do. Not long after I heard Col. <HI>Charls Lloid,</HI> &s;ome|times called Sir <HI>Charls Lloid,</HI> Engineer General, and Quarter|ma&s;ter General to the late King, Cap. <HI>Luke Whitington,</HI> Agent to <HI>Charls Stuart,</HI> Cap. <HI>Iohn Tytus,</HI> Cap. <HI>Ioh. Bartlet</HI> &s;ay that L. C. <HI>Iohn Lilburn</HI> had propo&s;ed &s;everal times, &s;ometimes to the <HI>Duke</HI> of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> &s;ometimes to Sir <HI>Ralph Hopton,</HI> &s;ometimes call'd the Lord <HI>Hopton,</HI> and &s;ometimes to Col. <HI>Charls Lloid</HI> afore&s;aid, and &s;everal others, That if any of the forenamed per&s;ons would procure him 10000 <ABBR>l.</ABBR> he would de&s;troy the Lord General <HI>Crom|wel,</HI> the Parliament, and the Council of State that now &s;itteth at <HI>Westminster,</HI> and &s;ettle <HI>Charls Stuart</HI> (King of <HI>England</HI> as he called him) in his Throne in <HI>England,</HI> or he would have a piece of him nayl'd upon every po&s;t in <HI>Bruges.</HI> In an&s;wer to which, Sir <HI>Charls Lloid</HI> as afore&s;aid told me, that if he thought the L. Col. could perform what he propo&s;ed to them, it would be hard but they would procure &s;o much money upon &s;o good a &s;core. I ob&s;erved further from L. C. <HI>Iohn Lilburn,</HI> and others who told me of his actions, that the L. Col. did not only move with much violence and earne&s;tne&s;s, &s;hewing which way he would bring this his propo&s;ed de&s;ign about, but went from per&s;on to per&s;on who&s;e reputation he thought could procure &s;o much as he propo&s;ed for (for the advancement of this his declared de&s;ign) and who&s;e af|fections and opinions were mo&s;t &s;uitable to further him in &s;uch im|ployments.</P>
<P>Not long after this L. C. <HI>Lilburn</HI> took up a pre&s;umtion that I was imployed by the Commonwealth of <HI>England,</HI> which he a|verred he was certified of by &s;everal of his friends (and named one <HI>Col. Layton</HI> as one of his friends, who now &s;tands exil'd from this Commonwealth, and was Secretary to the Council of Warr to <HI>Charls Stuart</HI> in <HI>Scotland.</HI>) The L. C. hereupon went to the Duke of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> Sir <HI>Ralph Hopton</HI> as afore&s;aid, <HI>Col. Charls Lloid</HI> as afore&s;aid, Major General <HI>Diol</HI> a <HI>Scotchman</HI> that came and invaded <HI>England</HI> with <HI>Charls Stuart,</HI> and had lately broke out of the Tower, Dr. <HI>Nicholas,</HI> Judge of the Admiralty court in <HI>Dunkirk</HI> for <HI>Charls Stuart, Cap. Luke Whitington</HI> Agent for <HI>Charls Stuart, Cap. Iohn Tytus,</HI> brother to <HI>Cap. Tytus</HI> the pro|fe&s;&s;ed Enemie of this Commonwealth, <HI>Cap. Iohn Bartlet,</HI> and what other Cavaliers he could meet with, and told them that I was a Spy for the Parliament of <HI>England,</HI> and warned them to be|ware
<PB N="3" REF="3">of me. For he had already &s;poiled two of the Parliament Spyes, and would in a &s;hort time ruin me al&s;o. And to this pur|po&s;e (as <HI>Cap. Tytus</HI> and &s;everal others afterwards told me) the Li. Col. went to <HI>Placingdol,</HI> and the &s;aid <HI>Col. Layton,</HI> where they way-laid me an hour and a half to have ruined me, as L.C. <HI>Lil.</HI> often &s;aid he would, though it plea&s;ed God in his Mercy not to let me come that day from <HI>O&s;tend,</HI> when I knew nothing of the de|&s;ign again&s;t me. Not long after this I conver&s;ed with &s;ome of the L.C. his A&s;&s;ociats, and told them I wondred much why <HI>L.C. Lil|burn</HI> &s;hould offer thus to abu&s;e his own Country-man in another Nation, in &s;o high a Nature as he had done me, &s;ince I never did him hurt, and repeating what I had heard from others, that <HI>L.C. Lilburn</HI> &s;hould &s;ay of me; It was &s;oon told the <HI>L.Col.</HI> again, who pre&s;ently pre&s;umed that it was <HI>Cap. Bartlet</HI> that had told me, and from that time forward he &s;ought with more violence than before to have me murdered, as too plainly appeared by his after-acti|ons, and by two witne&s;&s;es that I examined by order, who gave it under their hands, and offered to depo&s;e it, That one of the <HI>L. C.</HI> his Con&s;pirators again&s;t me, often told them, that the <HI>L. C.</HI> and this other Con&s;pirator had hired a man to have &s;tabb'd me, becau&s;e I was employed an Intelligencer for the Parliament of <HI>England;</HI> and had not I e&s;caped &s;peedily away, their bu&s;ine&s;s had been effected upon me. But I under&s;tanding the <HI>L.C.</HI> his practi|&s;es again&s;t me, re&s;olved on my voyage for <HI>England;</HI> which being under&s;tood by the Lieut. Col. &s;ome more men be&s;ides him&s;elf with weapons way-laid me and <HI>Cap. Bartlet</HI> (as we were to take boat for <HI>O&s;tend</HI>) that &s;o he might have executed what he had for|merly &s;poke again&s;t me, which was for this purpo&s;e (as &s;ome af|terwards confe&s;&s;ed to me, who had it from his own mouth) that his carriages in <HI>Flanders</HI> &s;hould not be declared to the Parliament of <HI>England,</HI> for &s;aid he, as they have bani&s;hed my per&s;on, &s;o they will &s;eque&s;ter my e&s;tate. But it plea&s;ed Almighty God this &s;econd time by his providence to protect me, in giving me a re&s;olution not to go till the morrow, which the <HI>L.C.</HI> perceiving &s;uppo&s;ed him&s;elf to be di&s;covered, and recurred into the Town, And &s;uddenly ther|upon came one <HI>Cap. Bret</HI> an <HI>Iri&s;h</HI> Rebell to inquire for <HI>Cap. Bart|let,</HI> with the &s;aid <HI>Cap. Whitington,</HI> who were both privy to the de|&s;ign, and di&s;covered it, after God in his mercy had prevented them. By this time it was noy&s;ed up and down the City, in&s;omuch that <PB N="4" REF="4">&s;ome of the Citizens offered me their a&s;&s;i&s;tance, which &s;ome of them afterwards gave me, and brought me to the boat the next day; at which time the Lieut. C. with &s;ome more of his Con&s;pi|rators lay behind a hedge, near the way that I was to pa&s;&s;e, and thus ble&s;&s;ed be God I e&s;caped his hands.</P>
<P>A little before the Lieut. C. had di&s;covered that Captain <HI>Bart|let</HI> informed me of what&s;oever the Lieut. C. told him, Capt. <HI>Bartlet</HI> &s;aid that he had told him that he the Lieut. C. had much intercour&s;e and corre&s;pondency with <HI>Holland,</HI> by which means, he would ruin me, in cau&s;ing me to be apprehended, becau&s;e (as he &s;aid) I was a Spy for the Commonwealth of <HI>England,</HI> which Capt. <HI>Bartlet</HI> giving me timely notice of, hindred my journey, and &s;o a third time I e&s;caped his malice, which was not again&s;t me any further, than as he &s;aid I was a Spy for the Common-wealth of <HI>England.</HI></P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>ISAAC BERKENHEAD.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<HEAD>The Examination of Capt. <HI>John Tytus,</HI> concerning Lieut. Col. <HI>John Lilburn,</HI>
<DATE>Sept. <HI>22. 1652.</HI></DATE></HEAD>
<P>THis Examinant &s;aith, that the &s;aid Lieut. C. <HI>John Lilburn</HI> propo&s;ed to the Lord <HI>Hopton,</HI> that if he would procure him ten thou&s;and pounds, he would de&s;troy the Common-wealth of <HI>England</HI> in &s;ix moneths, or he would have a piece of him-naild upon every Po&s;t in <HI>Bruges.</HI> The Lord <HI>Hopton</HI> told the &s;aid <HI>Lil|burn,</HI> that it could not be &s;o facile a thing, though he believed it would be done, but not in &s;o &s;hort time; to which the &s;aid <HI>Lil|burn</HI> replyed, My Lord, Ile &s;hew you how it &s;hall be done; give me but the monies that I propo&s;e for, and Ile have my Agents (for I have enough of them) that &s;hall give me a continual account of all the Commonwealth of <HI>Englands</HI> Proceedings: And by tho&s;e A|gents I will &s;pread My Papers abroad, that &s;hall in&s;tigate the people again&s;t the Parliament, and &s;o by that Power I have al|ready, and that Power that My Agents &s;hall make by working upon the people, I will de&s;troy this Parliament, the Councill of State, and the Lord General <HI>Cromwell,</HI> in half an hour.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that <HI>George Villers,</HI> Duke of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> &s;ent for the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> to inquire which way he might make his addre&s;&s;es to the Parliament for his Peace; But
<PB N="5" REF="4">the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> advi&s;ed the <HI>Duke</HI> from it, for that the Lord Ge|neral <HI>Cromwell</HI> and the Parliament were &s;o fal&s;e a Company of Rogues, that it was not &s;afe for the &s;aid <HI>Duke</HI> to put his life into their hands: And further &s;aid, that if the King (to wit <HI>Charles Stuart</HI>) would but ob&s;erve what he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had &s;et down in &s;ome Papers, which &s;hew the rea&s;on why the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> would not be a Cavalier, and reform but them, he might ea&s;ily do his bu&s;ine&s;&s;e and &s;it in his chair. But the &s;aid <HI>Duke</HI> &s;purr'd him the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> on to his fir&s;t reque&s;t of advi&s;ing him which way he might make his peace with the Parliament. But the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> would not hear of that, but advi&s;ed the &s;aid <HI>Duke</HI> to the contrary, and further telling him the &s;aid Duke, that they had hitherto (naming his Excellency the Lord General <HI>Cromwell</HI> and the Parliament) broken all their In|gagements, and particularly the Lord General, to me, who pro|mi&s;ed with all the Prote&s;tations in the world, and by what ever el&s;e was &s;acred, that &s;o &s;oon as the General had done his bu&s;ine&s;s in <HI>Scotland,</HI> he would then an&s;wer all their expectations and de|&s;ires (meaning the de&s;ires of that party which are called <HI>Levellers</HI>) and further promi&s;ed that <HI>Magna Charta</HI> &s;hould be &s;et on foot, and all the privileges of the people fully an&s;wered, according as they the &s;aid <HI>Levellers</HI> had in &s;everal papers of theirs propo&s;ed.</P>
<P>But the &s;aid Duke &s;till drove the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> off, de&s;iring him the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> that if he had any intere&s;t or party in <HI>England</HI> (as he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> boa&s;ted much of) that he would u&s;e it on the Dukes behalf; for, &s;aid the &s;aid Duke, could I procure a pa&s;s to day to come into my native Country, I would fling my &s;elf into the Lord General and Parliaments hands to morrow; For &s;aid he the &s;aid Duke, &s;o far as I have a&s;&s;i&s;ted the King hitherto, hath been but to quit my &s;elf of ingratitude, &s;ince my Family hath been rai&s;ed by the King and his Ance&s;tors. To which the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> replyed, My Lord, &s;ince you are &s;o re&s;olved, I would advice you not to &s;tir in &s;uch things as yet, for that there is expected a New Repre|&s;entative, at which time he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> doubted not but he &s;hould be able to do him the &s;aid Duke &s;ervice, for he the &s;aid <HI>Lil.</HI> &s;hould then be as powerful as any in the Repre&s;entative. But the &s;aid Duke de&s;ired that if he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had any Intere&s;t that he would u&s;e it forthwith, for that he had a de&s;ire to be reconciled to his Country. To which the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> replyed, My Lord, the
<PB N="6" REF="5">General and the Parliament are &s;o fal&s;e a company of Rogues, that it cannot be &s;afe for you to put your &s;elf in their hands.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that at this &s;ame time the &s;aid <HI>Lil.</HI> propo&s;ed to the &s;aid Duke, that if he the &s;aid Duke could but procure him 10000 <ABBR>l.</ABBR> he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> would have a piece of him nailed upon every po&s;t in <HI>Bruges,</HI> if he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> did not overthrow and de&s;troy tho&s;e damnable Villains in <HI>England,</HI> I mean &s;aid he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> the Lord General <HI>Cromwell,</HI> the Parliament, and that Mon&s;trous Councill of State. To which the &s;aid Duke replyed, I pray you Sir let me hear which way you will do this. The &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> replyed, My Lord, Ile tell you how; Fir&s;t Ile &s;et my Pre&s;&s;e on work (for which purpo&s;e I have bought one with a Letter at <HI>Am&s;terdam,</HI> which co&s;t me thirty pounds) and then Ile &s;end my papers over into <HI>England,</HI> which by my A|gents &s;hall be &s;pread all over the Nation, and by my Agents (for I have enough) my papers &s;hall be brought into the Army there, (where I have double Intere&s;t) and now every Trooper begins to under&s;tand his own privilege, and &s;o &s;oon as the&s;e papers are &s;pread theyl fly in the faces of their Officers, &s;o that with the help of my particular intere&s;t, the Souldiery &s;hall do all them&s;elves, and Ile do nothing but &s;it in my chair and u&s;e my pen. To which the Duke replyed, Sir, you may ob&s;erve that in all your attempts the General out-witted you, and broke your bu&s;ine&s;s in the bud; be&s;ides, you may &s;ee that on all occa&s;ions the Souldiery hath been obedient un|to his Officer, &s;o di&s;creetly hath the Generall ordered his Army. Why then, &s;aith the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> I perceive you take the General for a wi&s;e man. Yes &s;aid the Duke, let the world read his Stories and theyl find him &s;o. No, &s;aid the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> I know him to be otherwi&s;e, for heretofore all his Bu&s;ine&s;s was mannaged by <HI>Ire|ton,</HI> and is &s;ince by others. And for the Generall him&s;elf, he is as fal&s;e a perfidious fal&s;e-hearted Rogue as ever lived in the world. And I know no rea&s;on why I &s;hould not vy with <HI>Cromwell,</HI> &s;ince I had once as great a power as he had, and greater too, and am as good a Gentleman, and of as good a family. To this the &s;aid Duke replyed, Sir, if you have any Intere&s;t in <HI>England</HI> (as you &s;ay you have) I pray you to u&s;e it for me, for I have a great de&s;ire to be reconciled to my native Country. Then the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> per|ceiving he could not moove the &s;aid Duke to any thing in relation to his the &s;aid <HI>Lilburns</HI> propo&s;alls and per&s;wa&s;ions, he the &s;aid <PB N="7" REF="5"><HI>Lilburn</HI> promi&s;ed to u&s;e his intere&s;t in <HI>England</HI> on the &s;aid Dukes behalf, to which purpo&s;e the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> wrote to &s;ome in <HI>Eng|land,</HI> but to whom this Examinant knoweth not. But with all the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> advi&s;ed the &s;aid Duke not to &s;tir in it yet.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> &s;aid that there was one <HI>Rogers</HI> that was a Rogue, for that he was a Spy for the Common-wealth of <HI>England,</HI> and therefore he the &s;aid <HI>Lil|burn</HI> would ruin and de&s;troy him; And that he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had di&s;covered &s;everal that were imployd in that way before. And after this apprehending the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> was to come towards <HI>Bru|ges,</HI> the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> lay an hour and a half waiting for the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> his coming, at <HI>Placingdoll,</HI> three Engli&s;h miles from <HI>O|&s;tend,</HI> which was his way to <HI>Bruges.</HI></P>
<P>The Examinant further &s;aith, that there was one Mr. <HI>Lambert</HI> (a man that keeps much company with the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> who took the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> his hou&s;e for him in <HI>Bruges,</HI>) that &s;aid that Lieut. C. <HI>Lilburn</HI> told him the &s;aid <HI>Lambert,</HI> that he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had found a Rogue out, one <HI>Rogers,</HI> that was a Spy for the Common-wealth of <HI>England.</HI> The &s;aid <HI>Lambert</HI> further &s;aid with another Papi&s;t (commonly called by the name of <HI>Paracel|&s;us</HI>) as he the &s;aid <HI>Lambert</HI> was, that if the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> had &s;taid two daies longer in the Town, he the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> &s;hould never have gone thence alive, for that they would have him the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> knocked on the head.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> &s;aid, that the Lord General had abu&s;ed Major General <HI>Lambert,</HI> who when time &s;erv'd, would be revenged on the General.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>JOHN TYTUS.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<HEAD>The Examination of Capt. <HI>John Bartlet,</HI> concerning Lieut. Col. <HI>John Lilburn.</HI></HEAD>
<P>A Bout the 20. of <HI>July</HI> 1652, in an Arbor in <HI>Placingdoll,</HI> three miles from <HI>O&s;tend</HI> in <HI>Flanders,</HI> Lieut. Col. <HI>John Lilburn</HI> did propo&s;e to Col. <HI>Charles Lloyd,</HI> &s;ometimes called Sir <HI>Charles Lloyd,</HI> Quarter-ma&s;ter General, and Egineer General to the late King, in the late warres in <HI>England,</HI> and to Capt. <HI>John Bartlet</HI> this Examinant, and Capt. <HI>Luke Whittington,</HI> Agent for the King of <HI>Scots,</HI> that if he the &s;aid <HI>Charles Lloyd,</HI> or any of the afore&s;aid <PB N="8" REF="6">per&s;ons, would procure him ten thou&s;and pounds, he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> would &s;ettle the King in his Throne (to wit <HI>Charles Stuart</HI>) in <HI>England.</HI> And this Examinant further &s;aith, that at the &s;ame time the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> &s;aid, that the King (to wit <HI>Charles Stuart</HI>) &s;hould never come into his Throne, but by his the &s;aid <HI>Lil|burns</HI> means; And that he further &s;aid, the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> did op|po&s;e the late Kings death more than any man in <HI>England</HI> be&s;ides, then dur&s;t do. And this Examinant further &s;aith, that the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> did then boa&s;t much of the largene&s;s of his own party (as he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> called them) which he had in <HI>England.</HI></P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that there was a Rumor in <HI>Flan|ders,</HI> that his Excellency the Lord General <HI>Cromwell</HI> was made Lord Admiral of the Seas, and that he was to go to Sea in the Ship called the Soveraign, the which when Lieut. Col. <HI>Lilburn</HI> heard, he was very angry, &s;aying, That the General had more commands than ever <HI>Julius Cae&s;ar</HI> had, but tis no matter &s;aid he, let him go to Sea when he will, Ile warrant him he &s;hall never return; or words to this effect.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, That Lieut. Col. <HI>John Lilburn</HI> &s;aid, that Mr. <HI>Rogers</HI> was a Spy for the Common-wealth of <HI>Eng|land,</HI> as he was told by Lieut. Col. <HI>Layton.</HI> And further &s;aid, that if he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> knew it certainly, he would de&s;troy the &s;aid <HI>Rogers;</HI> And further &s;aid, that he had warn'd the Duke of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> the Lord <HI>Hopton,</HI> Doctor <HI>Nicholas,</HI> Judge of the Admiralty Court for the <HI>Scotch</HI> King in <HI>Dunkirk,</HI> and &s;everal other Cavaliers, that they &s;hould not tru&s;t him, and the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> fur|ther &s;aid, that he had &s;poild two of the Parliaments Spies alrea|dy, and would do the like to this; And further &s;aid, that he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn,</HI> and the &s;aid Col. <HI>Layton</HI> (&s;uppo&s;ing which way the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> would come) lay an hour and a half waiting for him, but though he mi&s;t him then, he would ruin him afterwards; and at this time the &s;aid <HI>Lilb.</HI> commanded this Examinant to keep it &s;ecretly, and to beware of him the &s;aid <HI>Rogers.</HI> After this it appeared that the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had intelligence, that this Exami|nant had di&s;covered to the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> what had formerly pa&s;t betwixt the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> and this Examinant as &s;ecrets, and what is related in this Paper; and under&s;tanding that the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> and this Examinant were to go from <HI>Bruges</HI> to <HI>O&s;tend,</HI> and &s;o for <HI>England,</HI> that non<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter"> of the &s;aid <HI>Lilburns</HI> actions might be declar|ed <PB N="9" REF="6">there in <HI>England</HI> to the Parliament, which the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> feard, he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> with certain others that he had pro|cured with their weapons, as Pi&s;tols and Swords, way-laid the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> and this Examinant, but by Providence the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> re&s;olved not to go that day, and prevalld with this Exami|nant to &s;tay till the next, which this Examinant did, though they never heard any thing of the Con&s;piracy again&s;t them. But their &s;tay being under&s;tood by the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> and the re&s;t of his con|&s;pirators, one that was privy to the con&s;piracy Capt. <HI>Ignatius Brett</HI> an <HI>Iri&s;h</HI> Rebel, with Capt. <HI>Luke Whittington,</HI> came to the hou&s;e where this Examinant and the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> were, and this &s;aid <HI>Brett</HI> &s;ent for this Examinant, and asked this Examinant what was the rea&s;on why this Examinant continued not his re&s;olution for his journey. This Examinant an&s;wered that by a friends advice he &s;taid till to morrow. The &s;aid <HI>Brett</HI> replyed, you may thank God you went not down to the boat, for had you gone, ye had been harder put to it in fighting than ever you were in your dayes; wher|upon this Examinant asked the &s;aid <HI>Brett,</HI> by whom? the &s;aid <HI>Brett</HI> an&s;wered you &s;hall excu&s;e me, I will never be a Traitor to them &s;o long as I live, but you know them all as well as I. Then the &s;aid <HI>Whittington</HI> being in company &s;aid, I am glad with all my heart you went not down, for the per&s;ons were <HI>Lilburn,</HI> &amp;c. who were all well furni&s;hed for this purpo&s;e. With that the &s;aid <HI>Brett</HI> &s;aid, Gentlemen, you are my witne&s;&s;es that I di&s;covered them not. And this being noi&s;ed abroad in the Town, a Merchant of the Town offered the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> if he plea&s;ed he would cau&s;e them all to be clapped up, which the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> refu&s;ed, provi|ding them&s;elves again&s;t them.</P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that before this, the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> told him that he the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> had good intercour&s;e with <HI>Hol|land,</HI> and would cau&s;e the &s;aid <HI>Rogers</HI> to be &s;urprized there, for that he was a Spy for the Commonwealth of <HI>England.</HI></P>
<P>This Examinant further &s;aith, that the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> was reading a Declaration of the Parliament of <HI>Englands</HI> touching the War with the <HI>Hollanders,</HI> the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> profe&s;&s;ed, that were the Parliament half &s;o hone&s;t as they were wi&s;e they were the brave&s;t people in the world: But the <HI>Dutch</HI> were fools; for had he their cau&s;e in handling, he would choak the Parliament in two words; which &s;hould be in telling them of their promi&s;es made to the late
<PB N="10" REF="7">King, in pre&s;erving his Per&s;on, Honour, Crown and Dignity, and how fal&s;ly they have broken them all.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>John Bartlet.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<DIV2 TYPE="letter">
<HEAD>For my dear and loving wife Mrs. <HI>Elizabeth Lilburn,</HI> the&s;e with hast, hast, po&s;t hast deliver in <HI>London.</HI></HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>My DEAR LOVE,</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>I Have been, and yet am in a longing Condition to hear from thee, but I confe&s;&s;e by this Po&s;t I have nothing to expect from thee, more than to hear that thou art &s;afely got a|mong&s;t our Friends at <HI>London,</HI> where I hope your joint activity will be &s;uch (according to my full In&s;tructions to you and my true friend that went with you) as that you will procure my expected Pa&s;&s;e &s;o &s;peedily as to &s;end it me, or a Copy of it, with my friends, encouragement, to <HI>Dunkirk,</HI> the next Po&s;t, where by Gods a&s;&s;i&s;tance I will be on Sunday next at night; and if it come, its more than probable I may come to <HI>Dover</HI> that Packet (or certainly &s;end you word when by Gods gratious permi&s;&s;ion I &s;hall) for I long to &s;ee <HI>London,</HI> and if I come &s;o &s;uddenly, I &s;hall leave all my things behind me in the care and po&s;&s;e&s;&s;ion of Mr. <HI>Lambert,</HI> for which I can either come over my &s;elf again, or &s;end for them. One rea&s;on that moves me to make the more ha&s;t, is becau&s;e if I come over, and find things in a hand&s;ome way to my liking, I have &s;omething of very great con&s;equence to &s;ay &s;peedily to &s;uch a great faithfull man as I &s;hall tru&s;t, and if I come, I &s;hall &s;tay at Dover a Day, 2 or 3, and by the Po&s;t let you know I am there, and expect you to &s;end me a hor&s;e to <HI>Canterbury,</HI> where at the Po&s;t-hou&s;e I intend to ly the fir&s;t night, and &s;hall not &s;tir from thence till I receive a Hor&s;e from you.</P>
<P>But if our new Councill of State, or Governors, will not ca&s;t a favourable eye upon you, but either deny or delay you a Pa&s;s, &s;o that the next Po&s;t I hear not of it, I &s;hall then take it for granted that Major General <HI>Harri&s;on,</HI> being, as I hear, one of your new Councill of State, is my principalle&s;t, and grande&s;t adver&s;arie, and accordingly I &s;hall onely take ari&s;e from what I was inform|ed he &s;aid in the Hou&s;e at my Bani&s;hment, and what he &s;aid pub|lickly at <HI>Alhallowes</HI> (when from <HI>Dover</HI> I &s;ent my letter to the people that meet there) to write him &s;uch a Letter which already <PB N="11" REF="7">in my brain I have contrived) as will no way plea&s;e him, let the I&s;&s;ue be what it will. I have writ again to Major General <HI>Lam|bert</HI> (who I hear is Pre&s;ident of your new Councill) and enclo&s;ed him one of my printed Epi&s;tles, in <HI>Dutch</HI> and <HI>Engli&s;h,</HI> I have al|&s;o writ to Col. <HI>Bennet,</HI> which you may read the Copie of on the o|ther &s;ide.</P>
<P>So with my hearty and true love and affection pre&s;ented to thee and all my friends in the bulk, longing above mea&s;ure to hear from thee, I commit thee and my poor Babes, as my own &s;oul, to the Protection of the mo&s;t high, and re&s;t </P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>thy faithfull and loving Hus|band. <HI>I.</HI> L.</SIGNED>
<POSTSCRIPT>
<P>I have herewith enclo&s;ed one of my printed Letters, which I hope are before now printed at <HI>London;</HI> I have already &s;ent two Copies of this two &s;everal waies for fear of mi&s;carriage.</P>
<P>I am in ha&s;t, and cannot read this over, the Po&s;t is going, there|fore mend the faults if there be any.</P>
</POSTSCRIPT></CLOSER>
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<HEAD>The Information of <HI>Rich. Foot,</HI> concerning Lie. Col. <HI>John Lilburn.</HI></HEAD>
<P>BEing in <HI>Flanders</HI> about three moneths &s;ince, I came acquaint|ed with L. Col. <HI>John Lilburn,</HI> where among other di&s;cour&s;e I askt him why he did not apply him&s;elf to learn &s;ome language, he being then unable to &s;peak to any of the Country without an In|terpreter; he an&s;wered me, that he thought him&s;elf too old to learn languages, and &s;aid he had work enough to &s;et his adver&s;aries by the ears. Few daies after I came into <HI>England,</HI> and about 7 weeks or 2 moneths &s;ince returning there again he told me that his wife had been there, and that he had &s;ent her into <HI>England</HI> with a Let|ter to <HI>Cromwell,</HI> a Copy of which he gave me in print, and that he expected a pa&s;s to go into <HI>England,</HI> he would not &s;tay a day af|ter it came, though he hired a boat of purpo&s;e; then one <HI>Parker</HI> a Cavalier taking his leave of him, askt if he might not write to him, he an&s;wered, no, I will receive no letters from Mr. <HI>Parker;</HI> then he askt if not by another name, to that he a&s;&s;ented. So <HI>Lilburn</HI> went to <HI>Dunkirk</HI> with great confidence that he &s;hould receive his pa&s;&s;e there; and few daies after one <HI>Jamot,</HI> which had been a Lieut. Col. for the late King, came Po&s;t from <HI>Paris,</HI> &s;taying but one night at <HI>Antwerp</HI> with
<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">is wife, and came to <HI>Bridges,</HI> and not finding <HI>Lil<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter"></HI> there, came to my lodging early in the morning &amp; asked me if I thought he was gone for <HI>England,</HI> then pre&s;ently went away <PB N="12" REF="8">to the boat, to which I ha&s;ted, &amp; went with him to <HI>Dunkirk,</HI> &amp; often by the way he askt me if I thought <HI>Lilburn</HI> was gone, &s;peaking as if he extremely feared it; as &s;oon as he had taken up his lodging in <HI>Dunkirk</HI> he went to &s;eek <HI>Lilburn,</HI> and finding him in the &s;treet de|livered him a Letter, and had &s;ome private di&s;cour&s;e with him; a while after comming to them at a Tavern, <HI>Lilburn</HI> de&s;ired me to go to <HI>Bridges</HI> for a letter directed to him from Sir <HI>Henry Denix,</HI> wherein he &s;aid was a Pa&s;s for the Duke of <HI>Buckingham</HI> to come into <HI>Flanders,</HI> and to that purpo&s;e he gave me a Letter un&s;ealed, directed to Mr. <HI>Tho. Lambert</HI> at <HI>Bridges,</HI> de&s;iring him to enquire for the &s;aid Letter, and deliver it to me, which was accordingly done, at my being at <HI>Bridges</HI> the afore&s;aid Mr. <HI>Parkers</HI> wi&s;e de|livered me a Letter directed
<GAP DESC="blank"> to or &s;ome &s;uch like name, de&s;iring me to deliver it to <HI>Lilburn,</HI> &s;aying it was for him, I asked why it was &s;o directed, &s;he &s;aid he well knew the mean|ing of it; at my return to <HI>Dunkirk</HI> I received a letter from <HI>Jamot,</HI> wherein he wrote they were gone to <HI>Callis</HI> to meet the Duke of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> and de&s;ired me to &s;end the afore&s;aid letter with the pa&s;s in it to <HI>Gravelling,</HI> and within 2 or 3 daies after returned to <HI>Dunkirk,</HI> being Sunday the 29. of <HI>May,</HI> and <HI>Lilburn</HI> and <HI>Jamot</HI> being at a Tavern called the <HI>Con&s;erge</HI> with one Cap. <HI>Whitington</HI> and <HI>Col. Layton,</HI> both of the Kings party here in <HI>England,</HI> and two Merchants, de&s;ired me to &s;end one for his letters to the Po&s;t hou&s;e, upon which one of the company askt him what he would &s;ay if this pa&s;s came not, he &s;aid that if my pa&s;s come not, and that I find that it is <HI>Cromwell</HI> that hinders it, as it mu&s;t be, for it lies in his power, I will either kill him my &s;elf, or &s;end one to do it; then one of the Merchants askt him how he could do &s;uch a thing with con&s;cience, he an&s;wered tell not me of con&s;cience in this ca&s;e, for if that I am bani&s;hed without law, con&s;cience or equity, &amp; deprived of my natural air to breath in, which is every mans birth-right, (with &s;uch like expre&s;&s;ions) I may ju&s;tly right my &s;elf if I can; if I would take a hare or a deer, I ought to give him fair play, becau&s;e they are bea&s;t of game; but if a fox or wolf, I may u&s;e what device I can to kill him; &s;o if <HI>Cromwell</HI> keep him&s;elf above the Law, that I cannot have my right by the Law, I may kill him how I can. Then pre&s;ently his letters came, and after he had read them, and &s;aw his pa&s;s was not come, he &s;aid, I am re&s;olved to have one fling more at <HI>Cromwell.</HI> Further he &s;aid, that <HI>Cromwell</HI> hath been an Athei&s;t this &s;even years, and that his de&s;ign is and hath <PB N="13" REF="8">been to make him&s;elf King; &s;o having been there together three or four hours, expre&s;&s;ing great confidence in one another, I and this Informant left them. The next day <HI>Lilburn</HI> and <HI>Layton</HI> went a|gain for <HI>Callis</HI> to the Duke of <HI>Buckingham&punc;</HI> and were not retur|ned when I came for <HI>England,</HI> which was eight dayes after.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>RICHARD FOOT.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
</DIV2>
<DIV2 TYPE="examination">
<HEAD><HI>The Information of</HI> John Staplehill, <HI>of</HI> Dartmouth, <HI>taken</HI> 20 <HI>June,</HI> 1653.</HEAD>
<P>THis Informant &s;aith, that coming through <HI>France</HI> in his way to <HI>England</HI> from <HI>Spain,</HI> he lodged at <HI>Callis,</HI> upon Friday was Sevenight at the Silver Lyon, where was the Duke of <HI>Buckingham,</HI> and likewi&s;e &s;ome Collonels of the late Kings Ar|my, and with them was Lieut. Col. <HI>John Lilburn</HI> and his wife, that the Informant being in the next Chamber, he heard them di&s;cour&s;e of the Lord General <HI>Cromwell,</HI> but could not under&s;tand di&s;tinctly the particulars of their di&s;cour&s;e, but did apprehand he &s;pake very &s;lightly of the General, hearing him &s;ay the&s;e words, <HI>Cromwell,</HI> what can <HI>Cromwell</HI> do? And this Informant did ob&s;erve, that the &s;aid Duke, Cavaliers and <HI>Lilburn</HI> were very familiar together, and <HI>Lilburn</HI> and his wife dined and &s;upped con&s;tantly with them; That the Informant being bound for <HI>England,</HI> hired a Boat-upon Sunday for his pa&s;&s;age, and be|ing upon the Key, a Boat man came to him, and told him that he need not hire a Boat, but might go over with three Gentlemen that were going over, meaning Lieut: Col. <HI>Lilburn</HI> and two Ca|viliers in his company, and the Boatman went to them to ask them, whether this Informant might not go with them, but the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> refu&s;ed to admit it, and &s;aid he &s;hould not go with them. And he afterwards hearing that the Informant had hired a Boat him&s;elf, procured the Duke to go to the Govern our of <HI>Callis</HI> to &s;top the Informants going over at that time, and the Informant being &s;ent for by the Governour to that purpo&s;e, the Informant met the &s;aid Duke there, and was then prohibited by the Governour, not to depart till he had leave, &s;o the &s;aid <HI>Lilburn</HI> went away that night about midnight, with his wife, and two Caviliers, wher|of one was a Collonel, and embarqued all in one Boat, the Duke accompanying them to the water &s;ide.</P>
<PB N="14" REF="9">
<P>That the next day about two a Clock, the Governour gave liberty to the Informant to come away, who arrived at <HI>Dover</HI> at &s;even a Clock the &s;ame night, where he heard <HI>Lilburn</HI> arrived in the morning before; and this Informant coming through <HI>Canterbury</HI> in his way to <HI>Londan,</HI> &s;taid at the three Kings, the Po&s;t-hou&s;e to dine, and there asked whether Lieut. Col. <HI>Lilburn</HI> pa&s;t that way, and one of the Drawers told him he did, and the In|formant thereupon &s;aying, he was a great Enemy to the General, the Drawer an&s;wered, that he did expre&s;&s;e as much here, &s;aying, He came into <HI>England</HI> without any Pa&s;s, and that he did not fear what <HI>Cromwell</HI> could do to him, being as good a man as he; and this was upon Tue&s;day la&s;t. He likewi&s;e boa&s;ted, that he had cau&s;ed three Gentlemen to be &s;topt at <HI>Callis,</HI> which was the Informant, a Spaniard, and an Engli&s;hman, who came all in company together.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>JOHN STAPLEHILL.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
</DIV2>
<TRAILER>FINIS.</TRAILER>
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