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<P>A New CONFERENCE Between the GHOSTS OF King CHARLES AND Oliver Cromvvell.</P>
<P>FAITHFULLY Communicated by <HI>Adam Wood.</HI></P>
<P><HI>LONDON,</HI> Prin<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 letter">ed for <HI>Robert Page,</HI> living in <HI>Barbican.</HI> 1659.</P>
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<PB N="2" REF="2">
<HEAD>A <HI>Conference</HI> between the <HI>Gho&s;ts</HI> of King <HI>Charls,</HI> and <HI>Oliver Cromwell.</HI></HEAD>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>HOw now! Who's this that di&s;turbeth my du&s;t, at Re&s;t now &s;ome years?</P>
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<SP>
<SPEAKER>Oliver.</SPEAKER>
<P>I am one that gave thee no Re&s;t when we lived together upon the Earth.</P>
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<SPEAKER>K.</SPEAKER>
<P>What? Is it <HI>Oliver Cromwel,</HI> that grand Enemy of mine?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>The &s;ame.</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>What? ha&s;t thou left thy &s;tation on Earth, and dur&s;t thou here al&s;o to own thy &s;elf my Enemy?</P>
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<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>What is it that I ever wanted Impudence to do?</P>
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<SP>
<SPEAKER>K.</SPEAKER>
<P>'Tis true; neither did&s;t thou ever want a ba&s;e Hypocriti|cal Temper to colour thy mo&s;t ab&s;urd Actions.</P>
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<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>Oh Sir! I did no other then Imitate mo&s;t of our Rank, which, according to our Creed, <HI>viz. Nicholas Machiavell</HI>'s Prince, who &s;aith, <HI>A Prince or Tyrant ought never to want good Pretences, to colour the wor&s;t of Actions with.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>K.</SPEAKER>
<P>What do&s;t thou Rank thy &s;elf among&s;t Princes? Did&s;t thou u&s;urp the Kingly Office, after thou did&s;t me that Ill Office?</P>
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<SP>
<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>I made a &s;hift to gain the Supremacy; and becau&s;e the Nation was under age, I made my &s;elf their <HI>Protector;</HI> and would have made my &s;elf <HI>King,</HI> but that I dur&s;t not ac|cept of the Title, becau&s;e I had a Hand in your death; the which the People all knew: therefore I could not find a co|lourable pretence: for be&s;ides that, I often Imprecated and prote&s;ted again&s;t the Government of a Single Per&s;on, in the hearing of the Officers of my Army, who had &s;omewhat tender Con&s;ciences, in regard I had not a Crown for every one of them to harden their Con&s;ciences with, they ob|&s;tructed it once while&s;t it was under Con&s;ulation in Par|liament, to be&s;tow upon me that Bauble which only &s;erveth to cheat People.</P>
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<PB N="3" REF="2">
<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>What? Would that Parliament that took the Crown from my head, put it upon thine, and not upon one of my Childrens heads?</P>
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<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>Alas, Sir, that Parliament, I turned them all out of Doores, after they had declared <HI>England</HI> a <HI>Commonwealth;</HI> and then I became a Seeker, took the <HI>Fifth-Monarchy</HI> people in to ayd me in the turning them out of their Reputation; in which work &s;everal of that opinion did me good &s;ervice, by defaming, railing, and abu&s;ing the Parliament, in the ears of the people, which made the work more ea&s;ie and &s;ecure: So &s;oon as that was done, I turned them to gra&s;s together, with the Eel-skin, <HI>Aqua-vitae,</HI> or Lamb-skin Par|liament, what &s;hall I call it? and then I was made <HI>Lord Protector,</HI> for&s;ooth.</P>
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<SPEAKER>K.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>Then you were made Protector! who made you Protector, I pray?</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>Who? It was my Scullion, and Grooms, and Butler, and &s;ome other Nobles and great men, be&s;ides Sir <HI>Thomas Viner</HI> then Lord Mayor of <HI>London.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>Sir <HI>Thomas Viner!</HI> Why, who made him a Knight?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Oliver.</SPEAKER>
<P>Who? I did, with many more doughty ones.</P>
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<SPEAKER>K.</SPEAKER>
<P>Thou ha&s;t played a mad Game; it is &s;trange that a Halter never catcht thee: Did&s;t thou not come out of the World by the Rope, or the Ax, or by the hand of &s;ome <HI>Felton</HI> or other?</P>
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<SPEAKER>O.</SPEAKER>
<P>No; but I came by the Immediate hand of God, who never &s;uffered that worm of Con&s;cience to die within me, but it &s;till lay Gnawing and Tormenting of me, brought an unu&s;ual Feaver upon me, that dryed up all my blood, that at my departure not one drop almo&s;t was left within me.</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>What did&s;t thou do with the Sectaries, when thou came&s;t to that Power?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>I &s;erved them all alike; I made u&s;e of &s;uch of them as were as &s;ound Trowts as my &s;elf; and turn'd off all that I thought had any principles; and made choyce of &s;uch onely as would &s;erve me in any undertaking?</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P><HI>How could&s;t thou &s;ecure thy &s;elf again&s;t &s;o many &s;turdy</HI>
<PB N="4" REF="3"> and lofty &s;pirits, as was rai&s;ed in the Warr between Me and the Par|liament? or, how could&s;t thou charm them to quietne&s;s?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>Thus: If any &s;tirred again&s;t me, I at once &s;truck off their heads; I did not Nibble about their Ears, as you did about <HI>Burton's, Prynne's,</HI> and <HI>Ba&s;twick's.</HI></P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>Alas! At that time I could do no more, and it had been better I had never done that; for it di&s;contented the Puritans &s;o much, that they &s;ought all means to work me Ill and Mi&s;chief, for my &s;uffering that, and the Innovations in the Church in point of Wor&s;hip, together with the Patentees and Monopolies; all which di&s;contented my People &s;o much, that it made way for that Cur&s;ed Warr, in which I lo&s;t my &s;elf and Friends; by which you did arrive to what greatne&s;s you were at: The&s;e and &s;uch like follies I was guilty of, by being advi&s;ed by none but a vitious Nobility, that &s;pent their E&s;tates in a Riotous and voluptuous manner, never minding Ju&s;tice or Policy, Exhau&s;ting my Exchequer to &s;upport them, which brought me into want, which nece&s;sitated me to lay Burdens upon my People; the which di&s;contented them. They would not &s;ubmit to be ruled, but I mu&s;t have a Parliament to prevent popular In&s;urrections: the which I was forced to do, in regard the <HI>Scots</HI> had their Arms in their hands; and the Forces that I rai|&s;ed, would not &s;ight: and when the Parliament a&s;sembled, I lost my &s;elf, by not conde&s;cending to what ever they de&s;ired, according to the advice of my Grave&s;t Councel; and by my hearkening to &s;uch Coun&s;ell that advi&s;ed me to In&s;i&s;t upon my Prerogative; which at length occa&s;ioned that Warr. And after the War was ended, that I &s;hould at all Refu&s;e to &s;ubmit to any Tearms, when they offered me my Crown again; I having lo&s;t it in the Field, being a pri&s;o|ner, and having no Forces to &s;tand by me; that I &s;hould &s;tand up|on Tearms. Alas, alas, I acknowledge I played a fooli&s;h Game; if I had not Refu&s;ed to conde&s;cend to tho&s;e Propo&s;itions at the Trea|ty in the <HI>I&s;le of Wight,</HI> I had kept my head on my &s;houlders, in de&s;pight of thee and all the re&s;t of my Enemies. But, I prethee <HI>Oliver,</HI> now I have told thee how I play'd the Fool, tell me how thou did&s;t play the Knave after my decea&s;e; part of which thou ha&s;t already di&s;cour&s;ed to me.</P>
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<PB N="5" REF="3">
<SPEAKER>Oliver.</SPEAKER>
<P>Let me tell you, now I do intend to be reall to you, and ca&s;t off tho&s;e pretences I have hitherto cleathed my Actions with. The order of my under-hand dealing is in manner thus; Fir&s;t, when the Presbyterians were &s;o hot for you, and intended fooli&s;hly to re-e&s;tabli&s;h you, I began to be a zealous <HI>Independent,</HI> and promoted that Faction or Opinion above all other in the Army, and &s;ent Cornet <HI>Joyce</HI> privately, ordering him to &s;ecure your Per&s;on, (though af|terwards I denyed it with all the Imprecations I could de|vi&s;e) to bring you into the Cu&s;tody of the Army. That I might make the better tearms for my &s;elf, I &s;et afoot a Treaty with you at <HI>Oatlands;</HI> afterwards I propounded to my &s;elf, That I could not po&s;&s;ibly thereby attain to the End that I aymed at by that Action; then I contrived to foment a Jealou&s;ie in you of a &s;urprize intended by the <HI>Levellers,</HI> to &s;eize you, and bring you to Tryal. Upon this, you went in|to my Trap in the <HI>I&s;le of Wight.</HI> After I had taken off your Head, before I went to <HI>Ireland,</HI> I had to do with de&s;igning the de&s;truction of the <HI>Levellers;</HI> the which I effected in this manner. They being in a Body, &amp; likely to have &s;ent me after you (before I had ta&s;ted of the fruits of Soveraignty); I employed &s;ome among&s;t them to be Confederates, who be|trayed all their Re&s;olutions to me, and promi&s;ed to ob&s;truct their de&s;igns; for which I gave them Additional Honours: and I employed others to treat with them, and engage, that the Army &s;hould not advance upon them untill the Treaty was over; which ca&s;t them into a &s;ecurity at <HI>Burford:</HI> There|upon I advanced the Army, and fell in to their Quarters, &s;lew many, and hanged others. After which, I went into <HI>Ireland,</HI> with an Army. I furni&s;hed it with all the Anabap|ti&s;ts I could find fit to &s;ay Bo to a Goo&s;e, both in <HI>Ireland, Scotland,</HI> and <HI>England.</HI> Then my Lord <HI>Fairfax</HI> tamely, up|on a &s;cruple of Con&s;cience, layd down his Commi&s;&s;ion; which act of his made my work ea&s;ie to attain the Supre|macy; el&s;e I mu&s;t have pickt &s;ome holes in his Coat to
<PB N="6" REF="4"> have taken him out of the way by death or otherwi&s;e; the which was not ea&s;ie to be done, he walking &s;o circum&s;pect|ly: If he had not done it, I &s;hould have &s;uborned &s;ome that would have done my work effectually; the which Art I alwayes found to &s;erve my de&s;igns to good purpo&s;e, in ta|king away whom&s;oever I de&s;igned to de&s;troy, unle&s;s it were one Dozen or thereabouts of &s;ubtile fellows, whom I fear will be revenged on my &s;imple Son <HI>Dick,</HI> who hath not the &s;pirit of Government upon him.</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>What ha&s;t thou gulled my People, &s;o as to leave any of thy Brood behind thee in the Government?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Oliver.</SPEAKER>
<P>Yes, I left him <HI>Protector,</HI> and left my Secretary to protect him; but I doubt he will not be able to hold it long. Well, but to the bu&s;ine&s;s in hand, I am upon Con|fe&s;&s;ing my villany; I &s;ay, when I had furni&s;hed the Armies with Anabapti&s;ts, I was able to deal with the Parliament, who for the mo&s;t part were <HI>Independents:</HI> I by my &s;elf and Emi&s;&s;aries in the Hou&s;e, together with &s;ome of your Friends, did impede &s;ettlement by way of a <HI>Commonwealth,</HI> ob&s;truct|ed Ju&s;tice in the Hou&s;e, promoted and countenanced all Villanies in Committees, thereby to render them odious to the people. Now &s;ome of the Anabapti&s;ts &s;erved me to good purpo&s;e, who were all for a <HI>Fifth-Monarchy;</HI> the which Opinion I fomented all that I could: The Parliament &s;tood in their way when they became con&s;iderable, by whom they were defamed, abu&s;ed, and &s;lighted, their credit much weakned by &s;uch like means in the opinion of the People, I thereupon di&s;&s;olved them.</P>
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<P>&mdash;Oliver,&mdash;Oliver,&mdash;Oliver.</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>What! who's that that di&s;turbeth us?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Genius.</SPEAKER>
<P>I am thy Son <HI>Richard</HI>'s <HI>Genius,</HI> that come to tell thee, That he is Reduced to a private Capacity, and the <HI>Long-Parliament</HI> hath again Re-a&s;&s;umed their Authority, and he is little better then a pri&s;oner; He cannot &s;tirre our of doors either to Hawk or Hunt, for fear of Common Var|lets
<PB N="7" REF="4"> and Serjeants; There's one that intendeth to have him by the back for money for thy Wax No&s;e that belongeth to thy Effigies; another for this; and others for that.</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>What &s;trange fate turneth the Wheel of the Engli&s;h affairs!</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>Ha, ha, ha! Is it come to your own door, Sir? Well, certainly they will, like <HI>David,</HI> give thy &s;ons to the <HI>Gibeonites,</HI> to be hung a Sun-drying, for all the Indignities thou ha&s;t done them?</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>It's &s;trange! I ventured Body and Soul to get three Dominions, to leave him Lord of, and he would not &s;ell his to keep them; he is not to be pitied.&mdash;To our former di&s;|cour&s;e; I then called together a parcel of Gentlemen from <HI>Goatam,</HI> and other parts of the Nation, which were the Tinder-box, Lambskin, or Small-coal Parliament I men|tioned before. I made a &s;hew of Devolving the power upon them; made u&s;e of them to rai&s;e money, and do &s;ome other Jobbs of Journeywork. Then I procured one half to di&s;|&s;olve the other: Afterwards, I de&s;igned Warr with <HI>Spain,</HI> for &s;everal Rea&s;ons; one was, to keep the Active &s;pirits in the Army imployed; and to wa&s;te them there, whom I de|&s;ired to be rid of here. Another was, That a Warr with <HI>Spain</HI> would be lea&s;t Hurtful to me, though it was the mo&s;t hurtfull to the People of <HI>England;</HI> It would Impoveri&s;h them, and reduce the more of the needy &s;ort of People to a Nece&s;&s;ity of taking up of Arms to &s;erve me, and render the other to be le&s;s Hurtful: But it &s;o fell out, that the De&s;ign came off with ill &s;ucce&s;ses; My great preparations were Expen&s;ive, and drove me to Nece&s;&s;ities: I was forced to Invent &s;ome Plots, and I imployed &s;ome of my cunning Game&s;ters, which drew in many of your party &s;everall times; them I &s;equ<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 letter">&s;tred, which &s;erved me to &s;top many Gaps. I repaired &s;o often to that kind of practice, that every one &s;u&s;pected the &s;ecrecy; the la&s;t of which I intended to be put in Execution a little in Doctor <HI>Hewytt</HI>'s Plott, to
<PB N="8" REF="5"> the lighting of &s;ome Fires in the City, by the Heat of which I thought to have Illuminated the City and Nation with a belief of the Truth and Reality thereof, it being much like unto what our Brother <HI>Nero</HI> did at <HI>Rome;</HI> but I feared it might have gone too far out of my Reach, and the Effect might have been dangerous to my Per&s;on and E&s;tate: there|fore, forasmuch as they would not believe it, without &s;ome dyed, I gently &s;princkled the City with the Blood of that Malignant Doctor, and &s;ome other &s;illy Souls; by which means I came off believed by mo&s;t, though &s;u&s;pected by the Ingenious.</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>Oh horrid Villany? But why &s;hould I much wonder? &s;ince if it be well con&s;idered, other than this, and much wor&s;e, could never be expected from thee. We<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 letter">l, go on.</P>
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<SPEAKER>Ol.</SPEAKER>
<P>Stay there, Sir! I have di&s;covered enough at once; yet if you had not Interrupted me, I &s;hould at this time have Imparted more; but we will forbear untill another time; But it doth trouble me much to think, how that That Par|liament &s;hould be again upon the Stage: I fear me now, neither your po&s;terity nor mine &s;hall ever attain the Su|premacy: they will &s;ecure the Arms of the Nation from falling into the hands of one per&s;on. I have done them &s;ome good, in teaching them that Le&s;&s;on. Next time we meet, we &s;hall di&s;cour&s;e of the&s;e things farther.</P>
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<SPEAKER>King.</SPEAKER>
<P>Let it be &s;o.</P>
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