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<P>A LETTER From the RIGHT HONOURABLE Ed. Lord Montagu, one of the Commi&s;&s;ioners attending His MAJESTY.</P>
<P>With a perfect Narration of all the pa&s;&s;ages betwixt his MAJESTY and tho&s;e Forces that brought him from Holdenby, being Re&s;ident now at New-market.</P>
<P>Both read in the Hou&s;e of Peeres on the tenth of June. 1647.</P>
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<OPENER><DATE>Die Jovis 10 Junii 1647.</DATE></OPENER>
<P>ORdered by the Lords a&s;&s;embled in Parliament, That this Letter, with the Narration be forthwith printed and pub|li&s;hed.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>Joh. Brown Cler. Parliamentorum.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<P>London printed for <HI>John Wright</HI> at the Kings Head in the old Bayley.. 1647.</P>
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<HEAD>To the Right Honourable the Earl of Manche&s;ter, Speaker of the Hou&s;e of Peeres <HI>pro tempore,</HI> the&s;e.</HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>My Lord:</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>_VPon Saterday as we were upon the way be|tweene Huntingdon and Cambridge, in our journey, as we &s;uppo&s;ed towards Newmar|ket, we were met by Colonell <HI>Whaley,</HI> who acquainted us with the fir&s;t Orders he had received from the Generall to attend the King with his Regiment at Holdenby, in the roome of Col. <HI>Graves,</HI> and al&s;o with &s;uch other Orders as he received from his Excellency after it was knowne unto him that his Ma|je&s;ty was upon his march towards Newmarket, whereby he was directed at his meeting of the King upon the way, to entreat his Maje&s;ty to take up his Quarters at the next convenient hou&s;e, which he had a&s;signed to be at Childer&s;ly, the late dwelling hou&s;e of Sir <HI>Iohn Cates,</HI> wherewith his Maje&s;ty was contented. At the &s;ame time we al&s;o received two Letters from the Generall, wherein he acquainted us that the changing of the Guards at Holdenby, and the removall of the King had been without his privity; and that he had &s;ent Colonell <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 word"> with his Regiment to attend his Maje&s;ty backe to Holdenby: But tho&s;e Orders which Colonell <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 word"> la&s;t received for waiting upon the King to &s;uch conve|nient Quarters as &s;hould be ne<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">t to the place where he
<PB N="2" REF="3">met him in the way (were given as it &s;eemes after the date of tho&s;e Letters he directed to us) and upon his knowledge of the Kings being advanced as farre as Hun|tingdon: Upon Satterday in the after-noone the King came accordingly to this place, and we returned an&s;wer to his Excellencies two Letters, wherein we acquainted him with our condition, and that we had &s;ent to the Parliament for directions, which we &s;peedily expected. Upon Satterday late in the night, Sir <HI>Hardres Waller,</HI> and Colonell <HI>L<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">m<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="2 letters">t</HI> came unto us from the Generall, and de&s;ired our advice what was fitte&s;t to be done upon this accident, which had befallen by the di&s;order of the Souldiers without his Excellencies knowledge, and with|all propounded unto us the Kings returne to Holdenby: wherein his Maje&s;ty had declared his utter aver&s;ne&s;&s;e to Colonell <HI>Whaley,</HI> in&s;i&s;ting that he would not be po&s;ted from place to place, but &s;ince they had removed him again&s;t his will from Holdenby, he would now goe to Newmarket. To this we dur&s;t not, in the condition we were, pre&s;ume to give any advice at all before we recei|ved new directions from you, and that was all the an|&s;wer we returned. Upon Munday the Generall him|&s;elfe, the Lievtenant Generall, and other chiefe Officers of the Army came hither, and were much pre&s;&s;ed by the King, that for his conveniency he might remove to his owne Hou&s;e at Newmarket, profe&s;sing that he would not returne to Holdenby. Herein though much de&s;ired, we could not take upon us to advi&s;e, or act any thing conceiving that no new Guards could be but into the capacity of the former, who by Ordinance of Par|liament were immediatly to receive and ob&s;erve our Orders, and could not be countermanded by any other authority then of both Hou&s;es. His Excellency after much di&s;cour&s;e returned back to his Quarters at Cam|bridge, having promi&s;ed the King that he &s;hould have their re&s;olution before morning, and accordingly Col|lonell <HI>Whaley</HI> hath now received Orders to attend the King to Newmarket, whether we al&s;o wait upon him,
<PB N="3" REF="3">expecting hourely to receive your directions, which are hereby earne&s;tly intreated, and will be extreamely wel|come unto</P>
<CLOSER><DATELINE><HI>Childer&s;ly</HI> <DATE><HI>the</HI> 8. <HI>of June.</HI> 1647.</DATE></DATELINE>
<SIGNED>Your Lord&s;hips hum|ble Servant: <HI>Edw. Mountague.</HI></SIGNED>
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<P><HI>IN regard I was &s;traightned in time when my la&s;t Letter was written, I have here inclo&s;ed &s;ent you a perfect relation of what pa&s;&s;ed upon the fourth of this in&s;tant June, when the King &s;pake publiquely with the Souldiers at Holdenby.</HI></P>
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<HEAD>The Narration betwixt his Maje&s;ty and Cornet <HI>George Joyce,</HI> &amp;c.</HEAD>
<P>THe Party being drawne up in the fir&s;t Court before the Hou&s;e, His Maje&s;ty came downe, and &s;tanding upon the top of the &s;teps, directed his Speech to Cornet <HI>Joyce,</HI> who repre&s;enting the Commander of the Party, &s;tood before the Hor&s;e at the foot of the Staires.</P>
<P>The King &s;aid that Cornet <HI>Joyce</HI> having, though at an un&s;ea&s;onable houre in the night, acquainted him that he was come to convey his Maje&s;ty to the Army; His Maje&s;ty, according to his promi&s;e, was there to give his an&s;wer in pre&s;ence of them all: But fir&s;t he de|&s;ired to know by whom he was authorized to propound this to His Maje&s;ty. Ma&s;ter <HI>Joyce</HI> an&s;wered that he was &s;ent by authority from the Army. The King replyed, That he knew no lawfull authority of <HI>England</HI> but his owne, and next under him the Parliment. But with|all asked, whether he had any authority from Sir <HI>Tho|mas Fairfax,</HI> and whether in writing: It being replyed,
<PB N="4" REF="4" MS="y">That Sir <HI>Thomas Fairfax</HI> was a Member of the Army. The King in&s;i&s;ted that he was not an&s;wered; Sir <HI>Tho|mas Fairfax</HI> being their Generall, was not properly a Member, but head of the Army. <HI>Joyce</HI> &s;aid, That at lea&s;t he was included in the Army; and that the Souldi|ers pre&s;ent were his Commi&s;sion, being a commanded Party out of every Regiment. The King replyed, That they might be good witne&s;&s;es; but he had not &s;eene &s;uch a Commi&s;sion before: And if they were his Commi&s;|&s;ion, It was an Authority very well written, all hand|&s;ome young men. The King proceeded to &s;ay, That he came to <HI>H<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="2 letters">d<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">nby</HI> not by con&s;traint (though not &s;o wil|lingly as he might have done) to the intent he might &s;end Me&s;&s;ages to his two Hou&s;es of Parliament, and receive an&s;wers from them: That accordingly he had &s;ent &s;everall Me&s;&s;ages to them, and thought him&s;elfe in a &s;ort obliged to &s;tay for their an&s;wers which were not come; yet if they gave him &s;uch rea&s;ons as might convince his judgement he would goe with them: nay, the Commi&s;sioners &s;hould not &s;top him. He de&s;ired therefore to know the rea&s;ons they could give him for this journey. <HI>Joy<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="2 letters"></HI> replyed, That a plot for this fou<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">e yeares la&s;t contrived by &s;ome Members of both Hou&s;es, to overthrow the Lawes of the Kingdome: That a de|&s;igne to convey his Per&s;on to an Army newly to be rai|&s;ed for that purpo&s;e, were the cau&s;es of their underta|king this imployment, and hoped would prevaile with his Maje&s;ty to go willingly with them, thereby to de|feat the purpo&s;es of tho&s;e that would otherwi&s;e by the countenance of his Per&s;on, perturbe the peace of the Kingdome: And that his being with the Army was the readie&s;t expedient he could thinke upon to procure him a &s;peedy and &s;ati<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">f<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">ctory An&s;wer to his former Me&s;&s;ages. The King returned that he knew no fillable of any &s;uch de&s;igne or intended Army: And that to &s;eeke an An&s;wer with &s;o many gallant men at his back, w<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">re to e<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">tort it which were very unhand&s;ome &amp; be|&s;ides that, their propo&s;all looked like an <GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">ppo&s;ition to
<PB N="5" REF="4">the Parliament, which he de&s;ired not, or would ever infringe their ju&s;t Priviledges of the Lawes of the Land: That the&s;e Re<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">&s;ons induced him not to go willingly; and therefore de&s;ired to know what they intended, it he would not go with them. It was an&s;wered, That they hoped his Maje&s;ty would not put them to u&s;e tho&s;e meanes which otherwi&s;e they &s;hould be nece&s;sitated to, if he refu&s;ed. For the Commi&s;sioners, or any el&s;e that refu&s;ed, they knew well what cour&s;e to take with them. The King prote&s;ted; That unle&s;&s;e they gave him &s;ati&s;|faction to the rea&s;onable and ju&s;t demands he &s;hould make, he would not go with them, unle&s;&s;e they carried him by ab&s;olute force; and he thought they would well thinke upon it before they would lay violent hands up|on their King: That the Commi&s;sioners had never put any con&s;traint upon him; they were more civill. Then he propounded, that he might be u&s;ed with honour and re&s;pect; That they would not force him in any thing contrary to his con&s;cience, or his Honour; though he hoped he had long ago &s;o fixed his re&s;olutions, that no force could cau&s;e him to do a ba&s;e thing: Though they were Ma&s;ters of his body, yet his minde was above their reach. But to tho&s;e Propofitions they con&s;ented with a generall Acclamation; Ma&s;ter <HI>Joyce</HI> adding, That their Principles were not to force any mans con&s;cience, much le&s;&s;e the King. Then His Maje&s;ty de&s;ired that tho&s;e which attended him, and &s;ome other of his &s;ervants, again&s;t whom they had no ju&s;t Exceptions, might be permitted to wait upon him. This being agreed, the King asked whether they would have him go: <HI>Oxford</HI> was fir&s;t nomi|nated, then <HI>Cambridge:</HI> The King named <HI>Newmarket,</HI> which accepted, he de&s;ired care might be taken to carry his &s;tuffe, wherein Ma&s;ter <HI>Joyce</HI> &s;aid &s;omething was done already.</P>
<P>The other expre&s;sions of their re&s;pect to the King, of the Armies de&s;ire to &s;ee him with them, and of their fidelity towards him, were intermixed in the di&s;cour&s;e, together with complaints of the proceeding of the Par|liament
<PB N="6" REF="5">towards them; which the King &s;aid, He would not ad udge, unle&s;&s;e he heard both &s;ides.</P>
<P>The King having ended, at the de&s;ire of the Commi&s;|&s;ioners, he gave them leave to &s;peak to the Troops; who having repeated the &s;umme of their In&s;tructions from both Hou&s;es, whereby they were appointed to attend his Ma<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">e&s;ty at <HI>Holdenby</HI> till further Orders; did pub|likely prote&s;t again&s;t his removall, and again&s;t this act of the Souldiers, as unlawfull in it &s;elfe, and dangerous to them; requiriug &s;o many of them as would &s;tand by the Commi&s;sioners in oppo&s;ition thereof, to declare them&s;elves accordingly. But it being with a generall voyce an&s;wered, That not a man of them would do &s;o. The Commi&s;sioners added, That as hone&s;t men they theld them&s;elves obliged to di&s;charge the tru&s;t repo&s;ed in them, to the utmo&s;t of their power: And agreeable thereunto, if they had force for the Service, they would with&s;tand them to the lo&s;&s;e of their lives. But &s;ince they were not in a capacity at pre&s;ent, they mu&s;t acquie&s;&s;e.</P>
<P>As the King turned back to go into the Hou&s;e Major <HI>Tomlins</HI> declared to his Maje&s;ty, in the pre&s;ence of the Commi&s;sioners, That according to the Orders they gave him, he had indeavoured what he could to induce the Troops a&s;signed for the ordinary Guards, which he commanded in the ab&s;ence of Colonell <HI>Greaves,</HI> to dr w up and make re&s;i&s;tance, but without effect, they all refu&s;ing to obey him therein.</P>
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