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<P>A MESSAGE TO Both Hou&s;es of Parliament, for a per&s;o|nall <HI>Treaty with the King, (and his Maje&s;ty to</HI> come to <HI>London,</HI>) or Treat at <HI>Hampton-Court.</HI></P>
<P>By the Lord <HI>Lowden,</HI> the Lord <HI>Lauderdale,</HI> Sir <HI>Charles Erskine,</HI> Mr. <HI>Hugh Kennedy,</HI> and Mr. <HI>Robert Barclay,</HI> Commi&s;|&s;ioners from the Kingdome of <HI>Scotland:</HI> Sub&s;cribed by the &s;aid Commi&s;&s;ioners, <HI>Novemb.</HI> 5. 1647.</P>
<P>Al&s;o a Letter from the Army, concerning the Propo&s;iti|ons to be &s;ent to His <HI>Maje&s;ty.</HI></P>
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<P>BY the appointment of the General Councell of the Army,</P>
<CLOSER><DATELINE><DATE>Novemb. 6. 1647.</DATE></DATELINE>
<SIGNED>Sub&s;cribed
<HI>Will. Clerke,</HI>Secretary.</SIGNED>
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<P>Imprimatur</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>Gilb. Mabbott.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed by <HI>Robert Ibbit&s;on,</HI> in <HI>Smithfield,</HI> 1647.</P>
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<HEAD>A LETTER FROM THE ARMY <HI>Concerning</HI> The Propo&s;itions to be &s;ent to His <HI>MAJESTIE.</HI></HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>Mr. Speaker,</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>WHereas it is generally reported that the Hou&s;e was induced to make another addre&s;&s;e to the King, by Propo&s;itions, by rea&s;on it was repre|&s;ented to the Hou&s;e as the De&s;ire of the Army. From a tenderne&s;&s;e to the priviledges of Parliamentary actings,
<PB N="2" REF="3"><!-- PDF PAGE 40 -->this Night the Generall Councell of the Army, declared, that any &s;uch Re|pre&s;entation of their De&s;ires, was altogether groundle&s;&s;e: And that they earne&s;tly de&s;ire no &s;uch con&s;ideration may be admitted in the Hou&s;es Re&s;o|lutions in that particular.</P>
<CLOSER><DATELINE>Putney <DATE>Novem. 5. 1647.</DATE></DATELINE>
<SIGNED>Signed By the appointment of the Generall Councell of the Army. <HI>William Clerke,</HI> Secretary.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
<TRAILER>For the honourable <HI>William Lenthall</HI> <ABBR>E&s;q</ABBR> Speaker of the ho|nourable Hou&s;e of <HI>Commons.</HI></TRAILER>
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<HEAD>A Me&s;&s;age to both Hou&s;es of Parliament for a per&s;onall Treaty with the King, and His Maje&s;ty to come to London, or Treat at Hampton-Court.</HEAD>
<OPENER><SALUTE>Right Honourable,</SALUTE></OPENER>
<P>AS upon the removal of his <HI>Majesty</HI> from <HI>Holdenby,</HI> again&s;t his will, by a party of
<PB N="3" REF="3"><!-- PDF PAGE 40 -->the Army under the command of Sir <HI>Thomas Fairfax,</HI> we expre&s;&s;ed our &s;ence &amp; the re&s;ent|ment of the Kingdom of <HI>Scotland</HI> of that vio|lent action, &s;o the Committee of E&s;tates of the Parlament of <HI>Scotland,</HI> finding that his <HI>Maje&s;ty</HI> is &s;till kept within the power of that Army, thought them&s;elves obliged to endeavour to know the certainty of His condition, in obe|dience to their commands, we have apply|ed our &s;elves to His <HI>Maje&s;ty,</HI> that from him|&s;elfe we might know the truth thereof, who was plea&s;ed to &s;hew us his u&s;age, ever &s;ince Hee came from <HI>New-ca&s;tle,</HI> but for His pre&s;ent condition Hee really confe&s;&s;eth He cannot, but referres us to know it, from the two Hou&s;es of Parliament, and the Ar|my.</P>
<P>Both Hou&s;es (by many Profe&s;&s;ions, and engagements) have declared to the Kingdom of <HI>Scotland</HI> that they would take care of the pre&s;ervation of His per&s;on, His ju&s;t power and greatne&s;&s;e, (which both Kingdomes have &s;worne not to dimini&s;h,) and the Par|liament of <HI>Scotland</HI> upon the <HI>Kings</HI> going to <HI>Holdenby,</HI> did declare again&s;t all harme, pre|judice,
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<PB N="4" REF="5"><!-- PDF PAGE 42 -->injury, or violence to be don to his roy+all per&s;on, Therefore in pur&s;uance of the tru&s;t committed to us, we make this addre&s;&s;e to the Honourable Hou&s;es, conceiving it need|le&s;&s;e to apply our &s;elves to the Army, who we &s;uppo&s;e are &amp; ought to be under their com|mand, de&s;iring to know from them the cer|tainty of His <HI>Maje&s;ties</HI> condition: &amp; the rather that we are informed, there are intentions in the Army of the removing him from <HI>Hamp|ton-Court.</HI></P>
<P>The Kingdome of <HI>Scotland</HI> finding that their &s;tability, and happine&s;&s;e doth &s;o much depend upon the &s;afety and pre&s;ervation of His <HI>Maje&s;ties</HI> Royall per&s;on, And being re|&s;olved that no alteration of affaires &s;hall ever &s;eperate them from that duty Allegiance they owe unto him, nor from their con&s;tant re|&s;olution to live in all loyalty and obedience under His Government, have often &s;hewne their earne&s;t de&s;ires, and contributed their utmo&s;t endeavours, towards the compo|&s;ure of the&s;e unhappy differences. And the Hou&s;es of Parliament having by their Votes of the 26th. of <HI>October</HI> la&s;t intimated to us
<PB N="5" REF="5"><!-- PDF PAGE 42 -->their re&s;olutions to apply them&s;elves to His <HI>Maje&s;ty,</HI> and that they are preparing Propo|&s;itions to be tendred to Him; We doe de&s;ire that they may be expedited and communi|cated to us; that according to our many en|gagements and relations there may be &s;till a conjunction of Councells, in tho&s;e things that are for the Common peace and joynt intere&s;ts of both Kingdomes.</P>
<P>And for the better a&s;&s;erting of them, for clear|ing His <HI>Maje&s;ties</HI> doubts, and for the giving, and receiving mutuall &s;atisfaction: We doe de&s;ire (in the name of the Kingdome of <HI>Scot|land</HI>) that there may be a per&s;onall Treaty with His <HI>Maje&s;ty,</HI> as the be&s;t and readie&s;t meanes to obtaine the joynt de&s;ires of both Kingdomes; And for that effect, that the King may be invited to come for <HI>London,</HI> with that honour, freedome, and re&s;pect due to His <HI>Maje&s;ty,</HI> or (at lea&s;t) remaine at <HI>Hamp|ton-Court,</HI> and not be under the power, and con&s;traint of Souldiers, where both King|domes may make their free applications to Him without any danger of &s;uch &s;top, or af|front as hath been already committed again&s;t
<PB N="6" REF="6"><!-- PDF PAGE 43 -->a Commi&s;&s;ioner of <HI>Scotland:</HI> And for which no reparation hath beene yet made, and that His <HI>Maje&s;ty</HI> be no more carried about with the Army at their plea&s;ures.</P>
<P>The&s;e we conceive to be the mo&s;t pro|bable and effectuall meanes for attaining an happy peace, &s;ettling of Religion, re&s;toring His <HI>Maje&s;ty</HI> to <HI>His</HI> ju&s;t Rights, and continu|ing, and &s;trengthening, a good under&s;tand|ing betwixt the&s;e Kingdomes, which are mo&s;t earne&s;tly de&s;ired by the Kingdome of <HI>Scotland,</HI> And &s;hall be con&s;tantly and faith|fully endeavoured by</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED>Your Lord&s;hips humble &s;ervants. 
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<ITEM>Lowden,</ITEM>
<ITEM>Lauderdaill,</ITEM>
<ITEM>Charles Erskine,</ITEM>
<ITEM>Hugh Kennedy,</ITEM>
<ITEM>Robert Barclay,</ITEM>
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<DATELINE>Worce&s;ter Hou&s;e <DATE>the 5. of Novem. 1647.</DATE></DATELINE></CLOSER>
<TRAILER>For the Right Honorable the Speaker of the Hou&s;e of Peeres <HI>pro tempore.</HI></TRAILER>
<TRAILER>FINIS.</TRAILER>
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