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<HEAD>The Innocency of the righteous &s;eed of God cleared from all &s;lander|ous tongues and fal&s;e accu&s;ers.</HEAD>
<P>_IN an&s;wer to a printed paper &s;et forth by <HI>Frederick Woodall,</HI> wherein he goes about to render the truth of God odious, and by a clack of maliciou&s;ne&s;s to cover tho&s;e lies which he hath formerly publi&s;hed: but in the light of God, I do him &s;ee and comprehend, and in it he is made manife&s;t to all the children of light to be no mini&s;ter of Chri&s;t, and to the light of Chri&s;t in all con&s;ciences I &s;peak that in it they may read the&s;e things which from the light is declared that &s;o occa&s;ion may be cut off from all who, &s;eek occa&s;ion again&s;t the truth; that &s;o peoples minds may not be In&s;enced again&s;t the truth of God by his refuge of lyes &s;et forth in his paper, called naturall and &s;pirituall light di&s;tingui&s;hed.</P>
<P>But in the light of Chri&s;t, which is but one, which is not naturall but &s;pirituall, is he &s;een to be naturall, and his di&s;tinction to be naturall and &s;o in the light, the naturall man with his naturall doctrine, and naturall di&s;tinction is denied, and Chri&s;t Je&s;us we do witne&s;&s;e, who is the true light which lighteth every one that cometh into the world <HI>John</HI> 1. 9.</P>
<P>I am come a light into the world that who&s;oever belie|veth
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in me &s;hould not abide in darkne&s;s, <HI>John.</HI> 12. 46. and this is the condemnation of the world that light is come into the world and men loved darkne&s;s rather then light, becau&s;e their deeds were evill <HI>Joh.</HI> 3. 19. 20. 21.</P>
<P>Now all you who are enlightned by Chri&s;t Je&s;us and can read in the light, and with under&s;tanding, to you there is no occa&s;ion of &s;tumbling, but all &s;tumbling and the occa&s;ion of it is in them who hates the light and calls it naturall, which light is Chri&s;t for him a witne&s;&s;e, I am again&s;t all &s;uch who deny Chri&s;t to be the true light, which lighteth every on that cometh into the world.</P>
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<HEAD>Who is of the world called <HI>Richard Hubberthorne,</HI></HEAD>
<P>NOw as in an&s;wer to thee <HI>Frederick Woodall,</HI> who hath put a &s;tumbling block before the eyes of many, by thy lies and deceipt to keep them from receiving the pure truth of God, which the Lord is now &s;preading abroad and making manife&s;t to gather to him&s;elf his own from the mouths of all fal&s;e &s;heppards, that Je&s;us Chri&s;t the true &s;heppard they may come to witne&s;&s;e, who is the true light and is not naturall as thou would make him to be; nor that light in the con&s;cience is not naturall, which Je&s;us Chri&s;t hath enlightned every one with all, but all who in it dwell &s;hall witne&s;&s;e again&s;t thee, and thy ma|licious &s;pirit, who hath uttered forth thy bitterne&s;&s;e and venome again&s;t tho&s;e who walk in the light, and who witne&s;&s;e the truth of God in the life and power of it, and again&s;t all fal&s;e accu&s;ers. In the beginning of thy Epi&s;tle to the Reader thy enmity thou utters forth again&s;t tho&s;e, who for the name of Chri&s;t do bare his reproach in the world, in whom the Scripture is fullfilled, which &s;aith they &s;hall &s;peak all manner of evill of you fal&s;ely for my name &s;ake, and thou art one of them who art &s;peaking evill and encouraging others to &s;peak evil again&s;t tho&s;e, whom thou and the re&s;t of the &s;corners call Quakers, and
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calls them a ne&s;t of &s;tinging wa&s;ps, and &s;aith that they have leavened a dear Brother and Si&s;ter of thine and made them pro&s;ylites unto them.</P>
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<P>This accu&s;ation is returned back again upon thy own<NOTE PLACE="marg">I an&s;w.</NOTE> head for the poi&s;on of a&s;ps is found under thy tongue and forth of the venome doth proceed, as all who hath under|&s;tanding may &s;ee and di&s;cern, and tho&s;e whom thou calls thy dear Brother and Si&s;ter are made able in the light of Chri&s;t to te&s;tifie again&s;t thee and thy ly, and to witne&s;&s;e that they are brought out of the pro&s;ilites condition, and out of the leaven of the fal&s;e profits and fal&s;e teachers, which they were in &s;o long as they followed thy doctrine, but now that doctrine they do &s;ee whichdoth leaven and draw peoples minds from the light of Chri&s;t within them, and &s;o makes pro&s;ilites and children of the devill, but in the light of Chri&s;t art thou and all that uphold that do|ctrine &s;een and denied.</P>
<P>In the fir&s;t page of thy paper thou would make people believe that thou makes no defence again&s;t my reply to thy an&s;wers, and yet in the &s;econd page thou replies a|gain&s;t mine, concerning the tenth Query, and charges me in reputing thee the authour or father of aly, in returning to thee again thy own words in an&s;wer to the tenth Query which words are the&s;e, it is intollerable that Chri&s;t &s;hould be the prince of peace.</P>
<P>I an&s;wer, let every on who hath a de&s;ire to know, whe|ther this be &s;o, read thy own words in thy printed paper in thy an&s;wer to the tenth Query, in the twelft page, whe|ther the&s;e be not thy own words, the tenth is Intollerable that Chri&s;t may be the Prince of peace, and here to all who&s;e eyes are opened may &s;ee that thoudenies that Chri&s;t may be the Prince of peace, and &s;aith it is Intollerable, and the re&s;t of thy words which are in an&s;wer to that Query are full of confu&s;ion, and all who reads them may &s;ee it, &s;o I leave thee to be Judged of all &amp; condemned of all, who in the light of Chri&s;t do &s;ee thy confu&s;ion which proceeds out of thy own mouth.</P>
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<P>'Tis a previledge we have cau&s;e to ble&s;&s;e God for eve|ry<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> day, viz. that unto us are committed the Oracles of God.</P>
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<P>Here I charge the to prove when ever the oracles of<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> God was committed unto thee, or to the Prie&s;ts of En|gland: unto the Jews they were committed which was be|fore Chri&s;t came in the fle&s;h, and they who had the ora|cles of God committed unto them did &s;eek to kill and crucifie the Son of God, as you the prie&s;t of England who, go in the way of Cain and after the error of Ba|laam, do now &s;eek to de&s;troy the Son of God, where he is made manife&s;t and the Oracles of God were never com|mitted unto you, nor the mini&s;tration of the Go&s;pell, but in the &s;teps of tho&s;e you are found, who ever per&s;ecuted the righteous &s;eed of God, as you have made it manife&s;t in this generation. And again thou art bringing &s;criptures to prove the letter to be the word of God: which Scriptu|res will witne&s;&s;e again&s;t thee, for the Scripture &s;aith that God is the word, <HI>John</HI> 11. and thou art dimini&s;hing, from &s;ome and adding, to others and perverting the Scriptures to thy own ends, thou brings that &s;cripture in <HI>Titus</HI> 2. 10. 11. 12. 13. and the&s;e words thou &s;peaks from them, this is the grace of God bringing &s;alvation; when the Apo&s;tle &s;aith for the grace of God that bringeth &s;al|vation hath appeared to all men teaching us that denying ungodline&s;s and worldly lu&s;ts wee &s;hould live &s;oberly, righteou&s;ly and Godly in this pre&s;ent world, and here though thou bring this &s;cripture in thy paper, yet it thou can&s;t not own, that the grace of God which bringeth &s;al|vation to all men hath appeared, who denies Chri&s;t to have enlightned every one that comes into the world.</P>
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<P>This word for the manner of delivery unto us is called<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> &s;cripture, and we are commanded to &s;earch it, <HI>Joh.</HI> 4. 39. and laid under the promi&s;e of ble&s;&s;ing in that way, <HI>P&s;al.</HI> 1. 2.</P>
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<P>Here thou ha&s;t numbered thy &s;elf among&s;t tho&s;e whom<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> Chri&s;t commanded to &s;earch the &s;criptures, and among&s;t them &s;halt thou be numbered, and in that &s;cripture thou may read thy condition and the re&s;t of the prie&s;ts with thee, as <HI>John</HI> 37. 38. 39. 40. ye have neither heard his voice at any time nor &s;een his &s;hape, and ye have not his word abiding in you for whom he hath &s;ent ye him, be|lieve
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not, &s;earch the &s;criptures for in them ye think to have eternall life, and they are they which te&s;tifie of me, and ye will not come to me that ye might have life, now al you who are in the &s;ame condition, the &s;ame command is unto you. But there is no promi&s;e of ble&s;&s;ing promi&s;ed unto you in that way, no more then was to them, which was &s;o commanded, but never prove your &s;elves mini&s;ters of Chri&s;t, for they were no mini&s;ters of Chri&s;t that this was &s;poken, unto nor no Saints, but &s;uch as received honour one of another as you do, who are in that generation. And they were &s;uch as did not believe that which they did pro|fe&s;&s;e, <HI>Mo&s;es</HI> &amp; the Prophets, but Chri&s;t tells them plainly they did not believe <HI>Mo&s;es</HI> nor his writings, and all you now that profe&s;&s;e Chri&s;t you cannot believe Chri&s;ts words, who &s;aith he is the true light which doth en|lighten every one that cometh into the world. Therefore out of the doctrine of Chri&s;t you are &s;hut, and out of the &s;criptures which you do profe&s;&s;e, for the Sons life which witne&s;&s;eth the &s;criptures you deny, and are &s;trangers unto, he that hath an care to heare let him heare.</P>
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<P>Satan hath from the beginning envied a people this<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> priviledge, and &s;aith, at Chri&s;ts fir&s;t coming the com|mandements of God was made of none effect through tradition, <HI>Mat.</HI> 15. 6. and &s;aith, at Chri&s;ts &s;econd coming the commandements of God will be of none effect through revelation.</P>
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<P>Here thou ha&s;t uttered forth words without know|ledge,<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> but it is that thy Ignorance and folly may be layed open unto all, for it was they that made the commande|ments of God of none effect through tradition, which precryed &s;tanding in the Sinagogues had the chiefe&s;t places in the a&s;&s;emblies, and was called of men ma&s;ter, and in the&s;e &s;teps art thou and the re&s;t of the prie&s;ts in England who art the &s;ame things, for at Chri&s;ts fir&s;t coming he cried wo again&s;t &s;uch, and the &s;ame Chri&s;t crys wo again&s;t the &s;ame things now, and whereas thou &s;aie&s;t that at Chri&s;ts &s;econd coming the commandements of God will be of none effect through revelation, here I charge thee to be a bla&s;phemer and do&s;t &s;peake that thou ha&s;t no &s;cripture for
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and contrary to the &s;criptures and contrary to the Apo|&s;tles doctrine, for <HI>Paul</HI> did witne&s;&s;e Chri&s;t &s;econd coming which was in the &s;pirit as in <HI>Gallatians</HI> 2. and 2. and &s;aith I went up by revelation and communicated unto them that Go&s;pell which I preached among&s;t the gentiles and he did witne&s;&s;e the Son of God revealed in him and all the Apo&s;tles who did witne&s;&s;e him to be come again to them, the &s;econd time to reveal the will of the Father un|to them, this did not make the commandements of God of none effect, &amp; the &s;ame Chri&s;t we do witne&s;&s;e to be come and hath revealed the Fathers will unto us, for no man knows the Father but the Son and he to whom the Son reveales him, this we do witne&s;&s;e, eternall living pray&s;es to him for ever more and by his revealing his Son in us his commandements are fulfilled, and &s;o all &s;uch we do deny that &s;ay by the revelation at the &s;econd coming of Chri&s;t they &s;hall be made of none effect.</P>
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<P>Certainly many old Te&s;tament Saints &s;aw into the<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> glory and liberty of New Te&s;tament times, yet dur&s;t not cea&s;e from that wor&s;hip which was burden&s;ome world|ly and carnall, till the Lord did come in per&s;on and call them out.</P>
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<P>Here I do charge thee to prove where ever any of the<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> Saints before Chri&s;t was made manife&s;t in the fle&s;h did continue in that wor&s;hip which they &s;aw to be burden|&s;ome worldly and carnall, but did declare again&s;t all fal&s;e wor&s;hip &s;acrifices and &s;ervices which was worldly and carnal, and again&s;t all who drew near to God with their mouths, who&s;e harts was from God and again&s;t all Idolitrous wor&s;hips which were carnall &amp; did ca&s;t of e|very burden, as is witne&s;&s;ed in the prophets, which were before Chri&s;t came in the fle&s;h, and here all the prophets and holy men of God &s;hall witne&s;&s;e again&s;t thee, as <HI>I&s;aiah, Jerem. David, Ezek, Mica,</HI> and the re&s;t who wor&s;hipped God and their wor&s;hip was not carnall nor worldly, neither did Chri&s;t come in per&s;on to call them out of their wor&s;hip for they had fini&s;hed their te&s;timo|ny before Chri&s;t came in the fle&s;h, who did fulfill their te&s;timony and did bear witne&s;&s;e unto it, that it was of
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God, and did declare all that were out of that wor&s;hip which the Saints were in who wor&s;hipped God before Chri&s;t came in the fle&s;h, who was the end of the Law and the end of the Prophets, let him that hath under&s;tanding read the&s;e things: now here doth Chri&s;t, the Saints &amp; the Scriptures all bear witne&s;s again&s;t thee and thy doctrine, which would make people believe that the Prophets and holy men of God who were before Chri&s;t came in the fle&s;h, did live and continue in that wor&s;hip which was burden&s;ome worldly and carnall, which here is proved a|gain&s;t thee by Chri&s;t the Saints &amp; the Scriptures that &s;hame may cover thy face and that thy mouth may be &s;topped and that the &s;imple may know the truth, for who&s;e &s;akes this is given forth.</P>
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<P>So New Te&s;tament Saints may &s;e into that liberty and<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> glory, which is to be revealed but let them not go forth before the time but abide in New Te&s;tament wor&s;hip till the Lord come in per&s;on and call them out, and then they &s;hall go out all together, <HI>Matt.</HI> 24. 27. it is indeed a worthy life which we live in the &s;pirit, but it is an un|worthy deceipt that except we live out of the Go&s;pell we cannot live in the &s;pirit.</P>
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<P>O be a&s;hamed for ever to profe&s;&s;e thy &s;elf a mini&s;ter<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> of Chri&s;t and of the Go&s;pell: why do&s;t thou preach at all, or what art thou a mini&s;ter of, if that Chri&s;t be vet to be revealed or uncome in per&s;on, which thou houlds forth to the people, and how many &s;ouls ha&s;t thou led into that pit of darkne&s;s and blindne&s;s as to believe that Chri&s;t is yet to come in per&s;on, he that confe&s;&s;eth not Je&s;us Chri&s;t to be come in the fle&s;h is an antichri&s;t and he that preach|eth any other Go&s;pell or any other Chri&s;t, then that which did come in the fle&s;h and was made manife&s;t in the Saints, and is now made manife&s;t and witne&s;&s;ed to be come in the fle&s;h, let him be accur&s;ed, now the Scripture which thou brings in <HI>Matth.</HI> 24. 27. proves no &s;uch thing as another Chri&s;t coming in per&s;on for the &s;ame Scrip|ture we do witne&s;&s;e to be fulfilled in us and in his light do we &s;ee all tho&s;e who are in the de&s;ert, and who are in the &s;ecret chambers whom they go out, unto who turn
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from the light of Chri&s;t within them, to harken unto tho&s;e who cannot witne&s;&s;e the coming of the &s;on of man as the lighting from the Ea&s;t &s;hineth even unto the We&s;t, but talks of an expectation of the appearance of Chri&s;t in per&s;on, and profe&s;&s;ed to be mini&s;ters of that Chri&s;t which yet is to come in per&s;on, and here thou art ra&s;ed out from the Apo&s;tles doctrine who did not preach any other Chri&s;t but that which was come and made manife&s;t, and did ne|ver tell of Chri&s;t &s;econd coming in per&s;on nor of his per|&s;onall raigne, and thou that tells of &s;uch a deceipt that ex|cept ye live out of Go&s;pell, ye cannot live in the &s;pirit, here thy deceipt is indeed made manife&s;t and thy life, who would &s;eparate the Go&s;pel from the &s;pirit, but again&s;t that life and deceipt we bare witne&s;&s;e who by this &s;pirit do, &amp; according to the Go&s;pell: Again thou art teaching people how to &s;et up popery as followeth.</P>
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<P>If they will prove the pope &s;upream Monarch this way<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> it may be done; God made two lights the greater to rule the day viz. the Pope, the le&s;&s;er, to rule the night viz. the Emperour.</P>
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<P>Here thou who had&s;t profe&s;&s;ed thy &s;elf, long to be a<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> teacher and preached again&s;t popery and ha&s;t not been a&s;hamed to accu&s;e others of it, who &s;tand clear in the truth of God, witne&s;&s;ing again&s;t all &s;uch wayes of dark|ne&s;&s;e, but now thou art here found teaching people how to make the Pope &s;upreme Monarch, by &s;aying God made two lights the greater to rule the day, viz. the Pope the le&s;&s;er to rule the night, viz. the Emperour, and &s;o makes the Pope &amp; Emperour to be tho&s;e two lights, here I charge thee to prove where ever the mini&s;tres of Chri&s;t taught any &s;uch thing to the people or did &s;o contemne, and de&s;pi&s;e the or|dinances of Heaven, and the lights which God made to rule the day and the night, which thou compares to two carnall men like thy &s;elf, and here thou ha&s;t perverted the &s;criptures and made thy folly and deceipt manife&s;t to all, that they that can but read in the naturall heavens will condemne thee, and out of thy own mouth, thou art con|demned, for in thy paper thou ha&s;t &s;aid that which is not &s;cripturall is not &s;pirituall, now for that which thou
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ha&s;t &s;aid thou ha&s;t no &s;cripture to prove it, and the Scrip|ture will te&s;tifie again&s;t thee, and the Son and the Moon which are in there cour&s;e in the Firmament of Heaven, will te&s;ti&s;ie again&s;t the and &s;o the&s;e we do deny and thy doctrine with the Pope and his &s;upreme Monarch, &amp; all who wor&s;hip the ho&s;t of Heaven, we deny being clear from there doctrine and deceipt.</P>
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<P>If they will e&s;tabli&s;h &s;implicite faith thus it may be<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> done <HI>Job</HI> 1. 14. it is the oxon we are plowing, and the a&s;&s;es feeding be&s;ides them (in Ea&s;t, the prie&s;ts were preaching and the people believing this is to Crucifie the word of God.)</P>
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<P>Here thou art proved and made manife&s;t to be a fal&s;e<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> teacher who art teaching people how to e&s;tabli&s;h impli|cite faith, and to blind the eyes of people thou brings that &s;cripture <HI>Job</HI> 1. 14. when as there is no &s;uch word as im|plicite faith &s;poken of there, nor in the &s;cripture thou finds no &s;uch word, nor did ever any of the mini&s;ters of God teach people how to e&s;tabli&s;h any &s;uch thing, and tho&s;e prie&s;ts who preach that, and that people which believes it do make the word of God of none effect, through tra|dition.</P>
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<P>Thou art charging and accu&s;ing &s;ome to hould forth<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> the mi&s;tery of iniquity in principles, and to affirm a com|munity of per&s;ons, and things.</P>
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<P>The mi&s;tery of iniquity we know, and them in whom<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> it worketh, in all deceivable&s;&s;e of unrighteou&s;ne&s;&s;e, and from it and its workings we are &s;eparated by Chri&s;t Je&s;us, and in his light do &s;ee, &amp; comprehend its workings in the children of di&s;obedience, and all vile, and unclean per|&s;ons, who are in the lu&s;ts of uncleanne&s;&s;e and in the mi&s;te|ry of iniquity, and all things which are &s;eparated from the light we have no union nor fellow&s;hip, with and all the&s;e practi&s;es we do deny, which are unclean, which is acted contrary to the light which is pure in which we are cal|led, not unto uncleanne&s;&s;e but unto holine&s;&s;e, and to this God is our witne&s;&s;e and our con&s;ciences al&s;o bears us witne&s;&s;e, again&s;t all fal&s;e accu&s;ers, &s;o I charge the who hath put forth this accu&s;ation to turn thy mind to the
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light of Chri&s;t in thy con&s;cience, and with it thou may &s;ee in thy &s;elf the ground where this mi&s;tery of iniquity worketh, and thou may &s;ee in thy &s;elf, that which hath unity, with that which is uncleane the lu&s;ts of uncleane&s;&s;e, in ordinate effections, and evill concupi&s;cence the ground which the mi&s;tery of iniquity worketh in, is yet &s;tanding in thee, and &s;o, of the &s;ame things of which thou accu&s;es others art thou found guilty, which is for condemnation with the light.</P>
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<P>'Tis pitty Chri&s;t &s;hould be the foundation, and wood<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> hay &s;tubble built there upon, yet this is po&s;&s;ible, 1 <HI>Cor.</HI> 3. 15.</P>
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<P>Here thou ha&s;t perverted <HI>Pauls</HI> words, and &s;peaks thy<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> own invention contrary to the &s;cripture, for <HI>Paul</HI> did not &s;ay 'tis pitty Chri&s;t &s;hould be the foundation, but &s;aid other foundations can no man lay then that is laid, which is Je|&s;us Chri&s;t, 1 Cor. 3. 11. now if any man build upon this foundation, gold, &s;ilver, precious &s;tones, wood hay &s;tubble, every mans work &s;hall be made manife&s;t, now in the light art thou made manife&s;t, that Chri&s;t is not thy foun|dation, who takes <HI>Pauls</HI> words out of their place, who witne&s;&s;ed Chri&s;t to be the foundation, but thou art found building upon this foundation, gold, &s;ilver, hay &s;tubble and making a refuge of lies, which is for the fire, who&s;e work is to be burned in the day of the Lord.</P>
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<P>Thou &s;aye&s;t wi&s;dome is grown up to perfection, among&s;t<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> that people called Quakers.</P>
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<P>In the light of Chri&s;t we dwell which comprehends thy<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> wi&s;dome, which is earthly &s;en&s;uall and diveli&s;h, and from that wi&s;dome the&s;e things publi&s;hed forth in thy paper do proceed which is full of lies and confu&s;ion, but in the light of Chri&s;t made manife&s;t in tho&s;e thou call Quakers, art thou &s;een to be in that wi&s;dome, which is not perfect and &s;o thee, &amp; thy word we do deny, which is for condemna|tion with the light, which is contrary to thy earthly wi&s;|dome.</P>
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<P>Thou Prie&s;t <HI>Woodall</HI> art accu&s;ing me for numbering thee<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> among&s;t tho&s;e who are guilty of preaching for carnall things, who reap carnall things, and this thou makes thy
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defence, &s;aying this is my cau&s;e, more then &s;even years I have &s;erved in the Go&s;pell, where I am receiving what a people freely give for my family, reproath in outward things refu&s;ing a con&s;iderable &s;ettled maintenance el&s;e where.</P>
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<P>Such as thou &s;o we&s;t &s;uch &s;halt thou reap, and all they<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> who have given thee mony for preaching &s;uch things, as thou ha&s;t here publi&s;hed forth in print, they have given thee mony for that which is not bread, and &s;o bought the carnall with the carnall, but their &s;ouls are yet made mar|chandi&s;e of, &amp; that unju&s;t gaine which thou ha&s;t received this &s;even years from that people will ri&s;e up in judge|ment again&s;t thee, who has not only u&s;ed it for thy nece&s;|&s;ity and &s;upport in outward things, which were needfull for the u&s;e of the body, but ha&s;t &s;pent it upon thy lu&s;t and pride in thy family, &s;pending more in lu&s;t and pride and gay apparell, then tho&s;e whom thou receives the gift from, and thou who ha<GAP DESC="illegible" REASON="missing" EXTENT="1 letter">h profe&s;&s;ed thy &s;elf to be a &s;ervant to that people, and they having given the wayes &s;o long for that which did not profit them, thou after the manner of the gentiles hath exerci&s;ed authority and lord&s;hip over them, and where as thou &s;houlde&s;t be their hired &s;ervant, they call thee ma&s;ter, thou which &s;hould be the lea&s;t of all among&s;t them, art greate&s;t of all exceeding them all in pride and high mindedne&s;s in ea&s;e in plea&s;ures in idlene&s;s and fulne&s;s of bread, but as the Lord doth open the eyes of tho&s;e whom thou ha&s;t kept in blindne&s;s and ignorance, they will come to &s;ee thee and thy doctrine to be contrary unto the Go&s;pell of Chri&s;t, as they may plainly &s;ee and read thee in tho&s;e things, which thou ha&s;t publi&s;hed forth in print, which is &s;ervi&s;able unto all who hath un|der&s;tanding that thy confu&s;ion and folly, and lies again&s;t the truth again&s;t Chri&s;t again&s;t the Saints, and again&s;t the Scriptures they may &s;ee, which hath been long hid, but now is made manife&s;t in the light unto all, who are come to know the free teachings of God, who will no more give the mony for &s;peaking a divination of thy own brain, and not from the mouth of the Lord.</P>
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<P>Who knows not that tithes and gleebs were under that<NOTE PLACE="marg">Priest.</NOTE>
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di&s;pen&s;ation by divine law ordained for the maintinance of the prie&s;ts.</P>
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<P>Here thou would make people believe that thou denies<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> tithes which was for the maintenance of the Prie&s;ts of the law, but as for the gleebs which thou &s;peaks of there was never any &s;uch things ordained in the law, here thou ha&s;t made it appear that thou art ignorant of that which was ordained for the prie&s;ts maintenance under that di&s;pen|&s;ation, for they had no inheritance nor gleeb lands to maintain them as &s;ome of the prie&s;ts of England have, and yet tho&s;e prie&s;ts in England, which do receive tithes, and &s;o upholds that which thou &s;eems to deny, yet thou owns them as thy brethren, and to be mini&s;ters of the Go&s;pell, and here your deceipt is &s;o plainly made ma|nife&s;t that you accu&s;e one another, and condemne one another all your harts being exerci&s;ed with covetous practices preaching for filthy lucre, all being greed to|gether to per&s;ecute ruile and &s;lander the pure truth of God, where it is made manife&s;t in his &s;ervants to declare again&s;t all your deceits: that out of your &s;nares the righte|ous &s;eed of God may be delivered to te&s;tifie again&s;t you &amp; your mini&s;tery under which the &s;eed of God is keept in bondage.</P>
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<P>Reader I have done our heavenly Father, taketh<NOTE PLACE="marg">Priest.</NOTE> &s;leeping di&s;ciples at the be&s;t, <HI>Matth.</HI> 26. 41.</P>
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<P>Here thou ha&s;t uttered forth aly, that all may plainly<NOTE PLACE="marg">An&s;w.</NOTE> &s;ee, which &s;aith, thou ha&s;t done, and in the next words &s;aith our heavenly Father taketh &s;leeping di&s;ciples at the be&s;t now from this Scripture in <HI>Matth.</HI> 26. 40. thy words are proved to be fal&s;e, for in that condition the di&s;ciples were then in they were not at the be&s;t, who could not watch with Chri&s;t one hour and the comfortor was not then come, which afterwards they did witne&s;&s;e and travell and labour and fa&s;ting and prayer and watching day and night, they did witne&s;&s;e and we who do witne&s;s the &s;ame condition, now do te&s;tifie again&s;t thee and all who make lies of the Apo&s;tles who did witne&s;&s;e Je&s;us Chri&s;t in truth and uprightne&s;&s;e of heart and the &s;ame Chri&s;t do we witne&s;&s;e and doth freely preach him to eve|ry
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nature being made manife&s;t to that of God in every ones con&s;cience to be witne&s;&s;ed.</P>
<P>Now as my fir&s;t Query is printed in thy paper the lat|ter<NOTE PLACE="marg">Prie&s;t.</NOTE> part of it, I deny which was not given forth nor &s;po|ken &s;o by me in thine, it is printed thus, how can that be &s;aid to be a naturall light which witne&s;&s;eth unto God, <GAP DESC="illegible" REASON="faint" EXTENT="2 letters"> again&s;t the things of the &s;pirit of God, which is fal&s;e but in mine it is written thus, how can that be &s;aid to be a naturall light which witne&s;&s;es unto God in that which is holy, and again&s;t the naturall inclinations of fallen man &s;eeing the &s;cripture &s;aith the naturall man receives not the things of the &s;pirit of God, 1 <HI>Cor.</HI> 2. 14. How as every one hath a de&s;ire to know the truth of the&s;e things, that the occa&s;ion of &s;tumbling may be taken away, they may read the Query as it was given forth from me in the &s;ixteen page of that printed paper, called <HI>Davids</HI> enemies di&s;covered which was put forth in print to be &s;een as it is there written before <HI>Woodalls</HI> paper, which is now in print was given forth, and this I have given forth that the truth may be cleared, owning that which did proceed from me and denying, that which is not mine, and as for <HI>Frederick Woodalls</HI> an&s;wer to the Queries they are re|plied unto in the paper above mentioned, and to the re&s;t of this printed paper an an&s;wer is here in returned that he may not boa&s;t in his folly, but may be a&s;hamed and re|pent.</P>
<P>Now as in an&s;wer to that in the latter end of thy book which thou directs the reader unto thou &s;eeing that thou ha&s;t holden forth the&s;e things, which thou can&s;t not prove, as the fir&s;t Adam to be the fountain of all naturall good, and &s;o to blind the eyes of people that they may not &s;ee thy ly, and &s;aith thou means not primitively, and here thou &s;peaks on thing and means another, but this covering is two narrow for thee &amp; under it, thou can&s;t not hide thy &s;elf but thy nakedne&s;s and &s;hame appears to all who&s;e eyes are opened and by them thou are &s;een.</P>
<P>And where as thou woulde&s;t cover over thy &s;hame of that thou ha&s;t formerly &s;poken in telling of two images, the image of God and the image of Chri&s;t, and that the fi<GAP DESC="illegible" REASON="missing" EXTENT="1 letter">&s;t
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was naturall and the &s;econd &s;pirituall, and here thou &s;peaks contrary to the Scriptures, which &s;aith, he is the ex|pre&s;&s;e image of the Father, and here in all who do wit|ne&s;s the Scriptures to be true mu&s;t witne&s;s again&s;t thee who &s;peaks contrary to the Scriptures, and now to blind peo|ples eyes, thou tells them thou under&s;tands it thus, <HI>Adam</HI> was made after the Image of God, God the Father, Son and the holy Spirit, come let us make man after our, not my image. To this I an&s;wer here thou ha&s;t added to the Scripture, for God did not &s;ay, not my image, as thou doth charge him to &s;ay, for the Scripture &s;aith God created man in his own image in the image of God created he him, as <HI>Gen.</HI> 1. 27. &amp; thou calls that image in which <HI>Adam</HI> was created, the e&s;&s;entiall image, and the image of Chri&s;t thou calls a per&s;onall image, and here by them who dwell in the light thou art &s;een out of the &s;ub&s;tance in the images making to thy &s;elf images, and likene&s;&s;es from thy imagi|nations, but in them thou can&s;t not know God and Chri&s;t nor the image of God in which <HI>Adam</HI> was created in innocency, and there is no &s;uch word in Scripture as e&s;|&s;entiall image, and here thou goes about to make three images, and &s;o among&s;t the image-makers thou art who art out of Gods commands, and there thou may read thy &s;elf.</P>
<P>But now the Lord God is gathering his own &s;eed by his eternall light out of all images and likene&s;&s;es to be conformed to the image of his Son, and to bear his image who is invi&s;ible, which all the imaginers cannot enter in|to, who &s;tumble at the light, but all &s;uch are &s;een by the children of the light and denied for now do they witne&s;s from the Lord, the day of redemption yea plentious redem|ption is now witne&s;&s;ed by them who dwells in the light which comprehends the world, and out of the world, and out of the worlds teachings, and out of the worlds ways, and out of the worlds wor&s;hips into the pure teachings of God &amp; into the Covenant, where they know God &amp; are taught of him, and no more can they be led by the blind guids for their eyes are opened which were blind &amp; now in the light of Chri&s;t the way is &s;een, which leads unto God
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the Father of light, &amp; in it all fal&s;e prophets &amp; fal&s;e teach|ers they do &s;ee, &amp; by them cannot be deceived, who come in &s;heeps cloathing and are beautifull outwardly deck|ed with the Saints words, but inwardly ravening Wolves, and now their covering comes to be taken off which was none of there own, and now the Wolf appears ravening again&s;t the Lambs of God, for the day hath made them manife&s;t and of them the Lambs of God are aware, and in Innocency is pre&s;erved, and in the pure wi&s;dome, which is not of this world in it they &s;ee and comprehend the &s;er|pents wi&s;dome and &s;ubtility, and craftine&s;s, and &s;nares, which for the righteous &s;eed is laid but in the eternall lightmade manife&s;t to the &s;eed, a way is &s;een out of then all, and by the eternall power of the pure living God of life deliverance out of them, all is witne&s;&s;ed, eternall pure living pray&s;es to him for evermore,</P>
<CLOSER><DATELINE>Given forth from the Love of God, to the &s;ouls of tho&s;e, who de&s;ire to know the truth to take away all &s;tum|blings, and cut of all occa&s;ions from all minds, that in the light of Chri&s;t the truth they may &s;ee to be clear from all &s;landers and fal&s;e accu&s;ations, which from the unclean &s;pirits proceed, which goeth out of the mouth of the Dragon to devoure the innocent, but from the dragon and all his floods, the innocent is pre&s;erved,</DATELINE>
<SIGNED>Given forth from him who a witne&s;s &s;tands for the truth of God again&s;t all deceipt
<HI>Richard Hubberthorne.</HI></SIGNED>
<DATELINE>Written from <HI>Mendle&s;ham in Suffolk,</HI> <DATE><HI>the 29. day of the 3. Month</HI> 1655.</DATE></DATELINE></CLOSER>
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