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<P>HIS MAIESTIES MESSAGE To the <HI>HO&V;SE</HI> of COMMONS, Concerning an <HI>ORDER</HI> made by Them, for the borrowing of one Hundred Thou&s;and Pounds of the Adventurers money for <HI>IRELAND.</HI></P>
<P>Together with the ANSVVER OF THE <HI>COMMONS</HI> A&s;&s;embled in <HI>Parliament</HI> thereunto.</P>
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<P>Ordered by the Commons in <HI>Parliament,</HI> that this Me&s;&s;age and An&s;wer, be forthwith Printed and publi&s;hed.</P>
<CLOSER><SIGNED><HI>Hen. El<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 letter">ynge,</HI> Cler. Parl. Dom. Com.</SIGNED></CLOSER>
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<P><HI>London,</HI> Printed for <HI>Edw. Husbands</HI> and <HI>Iohn Franck,</HI> and are to be &s;old at their Shop in the <HI>Middle-Temple,</HI> and the next doore to the Kings-Head Taverne in <HI>Fleete-&s;treete,</HI> M.DC.XLII.</P>
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<HEAD>His Maje&s;ties MESSAGE TO THE HOVSE OF COMMONS.</HEAD>
<P>_HIs Maje&s;ty taking notice of an Order lately made by the Hou&s;e of Commons, whereby that Hou&s;e hath unduly a&s;&s;u|med to them&s;elves, Authority to Or|der, direct and di&s;po&s;e of one hundred thou&s;and pounds, part of tho&s;e monies, which the Adventurers, for the re|ducing of the Rebels of <HI>Ireland,</HI> have paid to that end onely to that purpo&s;e, to other u&s;es and intents, contrary to the ex|pre&s;se words of the Act of Parliament concerning the &s;ame, wherein it is enacted, <HI>That no part of the Money which &s;hould be paid in according to that Act, &s;hall be im|ployed
<PB N="2" REF="4">to any other purpo&s;e, then the reducing of tho&s;e Rebels, untill they &s;hall be declared to be &s;ubdued,</HI> Out of His Piety and Princely care for the conferring and re-e&s;tabli&s;hment of Gods true Religion in that His Kingdome of <HI>Ireland,</HI> for the reliefe of His di&s;tre&s;sed Subjects there, for the &s;uppre&s;&s;ing of that horrid and bloo|dy Rebellion, for the &s;upply and payment of His Armies there now in great want and nece&s;&s;ity, doth &s;trictly re|quire the Hou&s;e of Commons, as they will an&s;wer the contrary to Almighty God, His Maje&s;tie, and tho&s;e that have trusted them, That they immediately retract, that mi&s;chievous, illegall and unju&s;t Order; wherin His Maje&s;ty expecteth their &s;peedy An&s;wer and Obedience; and the rather, that He may thereby be &s;ecured, that &s;uch part of the foure hundred thou&s;and pounds, as is or &s;hall be collected from His good Subjects of <HI>England,</HI> by ver|tue of the late Act of Parliament, whereby the &s;ame is granted, may not likewi&s;e (under fal&s;e pretences) be di|verted from it's proper u&s;e, for which it was intended and mi&s;imployed to the di&s;turbance of the Peace of this Kingdome in a warre again&s;t His &s;acred Maje&s;ty.</P>
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<HEAD>THE ANSVVER Of the Hou&s;e of COMMONS To His MAIESTIES MESSAGE of the 13. of <HI>Aug.</HI> 1642.</HEAD>
<P>_THe Hou&s;e of <HI>Commons</HI> having re|ceived a Me&s;&s;age from His Maje|&s;tie of the 13. of <HI>Augu&s;t</HI> la&s;t, whereby they are required to re|tract an Order made by them for the borrowing of one hundred thou&s;and pounds of the Adven|turers money for <HI>Ireland,</HI> &s;uppo|&s;ing that Order very prejudiciall to the affaires of <HI>Ireland,</HI> and contrary to an Act of Parliament, made this pre&s;ent Se&s;&s;ions, doe in the fir&s;t place de|clare that the directions given by His Maje&s;ty for the retracting of this Order, is an high breach of Pri|viledge of PARLIAMENT. And that they can|not
<PB N="4" REF="5">without a deepe &s;ence of &s;orrow call to minde, how Popi&s;h and Prelaticall Councells, did &s;o farre prevaile with his Maje&s;ty, that two Armies were brought within the bowells of this Kingdome, and two Prote&s;tant Nations ready to w<GAP DESC="illegible" EXTENT="1 letter">lter in each others blood, that when both tho&s;e Armies had bin a long time defrayed at the charge of the poore Commons of <HI>England,</HI> and at length by Gods ble&s;&s;ing upon the endeavours of the PARLIAMENT, quietly disbanded; the &s;ame wicked Councells (prevented of that de&s;igne) did &s;oone after rai&s;e this bloody and barbarous Rebellion in <HI>Ireland,</HI> the &s;uppre&s;&s;ing whereof, (for the better colour) was recommen|ded to the care of the Parliament, who out of a fel|low-feeling of the un&s;peakeable mi&s;eries of their Pro|te&s;tant Bretheren there, (not &s;u&s;pecting this horrid plot now too apparent) did cheerefully undertake that great Worke, and doe really intend and endea|vour, to &s;ettle the Prote&s;tant Religion, and a perma|nent peace in that Realme, to the glory of God, and the great honour and profit of his Maje&s;tie, and &s;e|curity of his three Kingdomes. But how they have beene di&s;couraged, retarded and diverted, in and from this pious and glorious worke, by tho&s;e Traiterous Councells about his Maje&s;ty, will appeare by ma|ny particulars; &s;ome whereof, they &s;hall upon this ju&s;t occa&s;ion call to remembrance. That when the Lords and Commons, had upon the fir&s;t breaking out of the Rebellion, immediately provided and &s;ent over Twenty thou&s;and pounds, and engaged them|&s;elves and the whole Kingdome for the reducing of the Rebells, Yet his Maje&s;ty after his returne from <HI>Scot|land</HI>
<PB N="5" REF="5">to <HI>London,</HI> was not plea&s;ed either by Word or Me&s;&s;age to take notice of that, untill after &s;ome in the Hou&s;e of Commons, had truly ob&s;erved how forward tho&s;e mi&s;chievous Councellors were to incite his Ma|je&s;ty again&s;t his Prote&s;tant Subjects of <HI>Scotland,</HI> and how &s;low to recent the proceedings of his Papi&s;t Tray|tors in <HI>Ireland.</HI> That although the Rebells had mo&s;t im|pudently &s;tiled them&s;elves the Queenes Army, and profe&s;t that the cau&s;e of their ri&s;ing, was to maintaine the Kings Prerogative, and the Queenes Religion, a|gain&s;t the Puritan Parliament of <HI>England,</HI> And that thereupon both Hou&s;es of Parliament did humbly and earne&s;tly advi&s;e his Maje&s;ty, to wipe away this dan|gerous Scandall, by Proclayming them Rebells and Traytors to his Maje&s;ty and the Crowne of <HI>England,</HI> which then would have mated and weakned the Con|&s;pirators in the beginning, and have encouraged both the Parliament here, and good people there, the more vigorou&s;ly to have oppo&s;ed their proceedings, Yet &s;uch was the power of tho&s;e Councellors, that no Procla|mation was &s;et forth to that purpo&s;e, till almo&s;t three Moneths after the breaking out of this Rebellion, and then Command given, that but forty &s;hould be Printed, nor they to be publi&s;hed till further directions &s;hould be given by his Maje&s;ty. That after both Hou&s;es of Parliament had found out a probable way to reduce the Kingdome of <HI>Ireland,</HI> by the Adventure of private men, without any charge to the Subject in generall, and which they are very confident would have brought in a Million of Money, had his Maje&s;ty continued in or neare <HI>London;</HI> tho&s;e malicious Whi&s;perers that dur&s;t not hinder the pa&s;&s;ing of the Bill, which was &s;o &s;pe|cious
<PB N="6" REF="6">in it &s;elfe, and &s;o generally approved; yea have by practice, by drawing his Maje&s;ty from his Parliament, by keeping him at this di&s;tance, and advi&s;ing him to make warre upon his people, &s;o intimidated and di&s;|couraged the Adventurers and others that would have adventured, that they have rendered that good Bill, in a manner ineffectuall. That the Parliament and Ad|venturers, had long &s;ince de&s;igned 5000. Foote, and 500. Hor&s;e, for the reliefe of <HI>Mun&s;ter,</HI> to be &s;ent as a Brigade, under the Command of the Lord <HI>Wharton,</HI> had made Choice of, and Li&s;ted all the Commanders, and prepared Money, Armes and other provi&s;ion for that Expedition, and all to be at the charge of the Ad|venturers, and when nothing was wanting but a Com|mi&s;&s;ion to the Lord <HI>Wharton,</HI> to enable him for that &s;ervice; &s;uch was the power of tho&s;e Councellors, that no Commi&s;&s;ion could be obteyned from his Maje&s;ty, by rea&s;on whereof <HI>Lymerick</HI> was wholly lo&s;t, and the Province of <HI>Mun&s;ter</HI> is now in very great di|&s;tre&s;&s;e.</P>
<P>That when divers pious and well affected Per&s;ons, had prepared 12. Shipps, and 6. Pinnaces, with a 1000. or more Land forces at their own Charge, by way of Adventure for the &s;ervice of <HI>Ireland,</HI> and de&s;ired no|thing but a Commi&s;&s;ion from his Maje&s;ty, to enable them thereunto. That Comm&s;&s;ion after twice &s;ending to <HI>Yorke</HI> for the &s;ame, and the Shipps lying ready to &s;et &s;ayle for three weekes together, at the Charge of neere Three hundred pounds a day, was likewi&s;e denyed, and tho&s;e Adventurers (rather then to lo&s;e their ex|pedition) were con&s;trained to goe, by vertue of an Ordinance of both Hou&s;es of Parliament.</P>
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That although the Lords Iu&s;tices of <HI>Ireland</HI> have three moneths &s;ince earne&s;tly de&s;ired to have two peeces of battery &s;ent over, as very nece&s;&s;arie for that &s;ervice, yet &s;uch Commands are given to the Officers of the Tower that none of his Maje&s;ties Ord|nance mu&s;t bee &s;ent to &s;ave his Maje&s;ties Kingdome, That although, while&s;t the Earle of <HI>Leice&s;ter</HI> &s;tayed here in the &s;ervice of the Parliament and in providing for his long expected voyage into <HI>Ireland,</HI> a Me&s;&s;age was &s;ent to the Parliament from his Maje&s;tie to ha&s;ten him away, and Letters were written to the &s;aid Earle from his Maje&s;tie, that he &s;hould make no &s;tay at <HI>Yorke</HI> for his di&s;patch, but that his in&s;tructions &s;hould be ready for him again&s;t he came. And although it is notoriou&s;ly knowne, that the affaires of <HI>Ireland</HI> doe exceedingly &s;uffer by wanting the per&s;onall a&s;&s;i&s;tance of a Commander in Chiefe, to give both life and mo|tion to the Army there; Yet the &s;aid Earle hath been &s;tayed with his Maje&s;tie in the North a moneth and more, and as yet can get no di&s;patch; That notwith|&s;tanding the bleeding condition of <HI>Ireland,</HI> yet divers Commanders and Officers in pay, and in actuall im|ployment there again&s;t the Rebels, have beene called away from that important &s;ervice by the expre&s;&s;e Command of his Maje&s;tie, as <HI>Charles Floyd</HI> Engineer, and Quarter-ma&s;ter generall of the Army in <HI>Ireland,</HI> and divers others. That Captaine <HI>Greene</HI> Comptrol|ler of the Artillery, a man in pay, and principally employed and tru&s;ted here by the &s;aid Lievtenant of <HI>Ireland,</HI> for the providing and ordering the trayne of
<PB N="8" REF="7">Artillery which was to be &s;ent to <HI>Dublin,</HI> and who had received great &s;ummes of money for that purpo&s;e was commanded from that imployment and tru&s;t to &s;erve his Maje&s;tie in this mo&s;t unnaturall Warre a|gain&s;t his loyall and be&s;t affected people. That the Parliament having made great provi&s;ion of clothes for the poore Souldiers in <HI>Ireland</HI> for their pre&s;ent &s;uccour, and &s;ending &s;ixe hundred &s;uites, part thereof towards <HI>Che&s;ter</HI> the la&s;t weeke, the man that under|tooke the carriage of them one <HI>William Whitacker</HI> by name, was a&s;&s;aulted by his Maje&s;ties Cavaliers then lying about <HI>Coventry,</HI> who tooke away tho&s;e &s;ix hun|dred &s;uites of clothes, and the Waggon and Hor&s;es of the poore man, although they were told that the &s;ixe hundred &s;uites of clothes were for the Soul|diers in <HI>Ireland,</HI> and notwith&s;tanding the poore Car|rier was five times with the Earle of <HI>Northampton</HI> to begge a relea&s;e of his Waggon. That three hundred &s;uites of clothes with a Chirurgeons Che&s;t of Medi|caments being likewi&s;e &s;ent for <HI>Ireland</HI> by one <HI>Richard Owefield,</HI> who was employed by the Parliament to car|ry them to <HI>Che&s;ter,</HI> a Troope of his Maje&s;ties Cava|liers under the command of one Captaine Middleton met with them upon the rode, and tooke away the clothes and Chirurgeons Che&s;t, together with the poore Carriers hor&s;es and Waggon for his Maje&s;ties pretended &s;ervice here. That a great number of Draught-hor&s;es prepared by the Parliament for the Artillery, and baggage of the Iri&s;h Army were &s;ent to <HI>Che&s;ter</HI> for that purpo&s;e, and being there attending a <GAP DESC="missing" EXTENT="1 span">
<PB N="9" REF="7">pa&s;&s;age, are now required by his Maje&s;ty, for his &s;aid pre&s;ent &s;ervice in <HI>England.</HI></P>
<P>That his Maje&s;ties Forces are &s;o quartered in and about the common Rodes to <HI>Ireland,</HI> that neither mo|ney, clothes, victuals, or other provi&s;ions can pa&s;&s;e thither by Land with any &s;afety. That Captaine <HI>Ket|tleby</HI> the Admirall, and Sir <HI>Henry Stradling</HI> the Vice-Admirall of tho&s;e Ships which were directed to lye upon the Coa&s;t of <HI>Ireland,</HI> to annoy the Rebels, and to prevent the bringing to them Ammunition and re|liefe from forraigne parts, are both called away from that imployment by his Maje&s;ties Command, and by rea&s;on of their departure from the Coa&s;t of <HI>Mun&s;ter,</HI> to which they were de&s;igned, the Rebels there have received Powder, Ammunition, and other reliefe from forraigne parts, by which and many other par|ticulars too long to relate, it may &s;eeme, as if tho&s;e Barbarous Iri&s;h Rebels are kept on foot, and counte|nanced there of De&s;igne to a&s;&s;i&s;t the Northerne Ca|valiers, and according to the Earle of <HI>Straffords</HI> un|heard of advice to have an Army in <HI>Ireland,</HI> with which his Maje&s;ty may reduce this Kingdome, e&s;pe|cially con&s;idering tho&s;e confident Rebels have pre|&s;umed very lately to &s;end a Petition to his Maje&s;tie, intituling them&s;elves his Maje&s;ties Catholique Sub|jects of <HI>Ireland,</HI> and complaining of the Puritan Par|liament of <HI>England,</HI> and de&s;iring that &s;ince his Ma|je&s;tie comes not thither according to their expectati|on, that they may come into <HI>England</HI> to his Maje&s;tie, which Petition we may ju&s;tly feare, is but a Prologue
<PB N="10" REF="8">to that tragedie they have de&s;igned to Act here, in ca&s;e their co~ming over be not prevented by the care &amp; vi|gilancie of the Parliament, &amp; good people of <HI>England.</HI> But lea&s;t the Hou&s;e of Commons might &s;eeme to ex|cu&s;e the making of this Order by a way of recrimina|tion, They for a &s;atisfaction to the VVorld, prote&s;t before Almighty God the Searcher of all hearts, that they have as great compa&s;&s;ion and &s;orrow for the pre&s;ent &s;ufferings of their di&s;tre&s;&s;ed Brethren in <HI>Ire|land,</HI> as if them&s;elves were in their ca&s;e (into which they are confident, tho&s;e horrid Traitors, tho&s;e Mon|&s;ters of men about his Maje&s;ty doe labour to bring this Kingdome) That they have and &s;hall ever really endeavour by all means po&s;sible (with a due regard to the pre&s;ent e&s;tate of this Kingdome) to &s;upply and &s;upport them in this their great affliction notwith|&s;tanding the malice and ob&s;tructions of all oppo&s;ers. That the Hou&s;e of Commons lively apprehending the imminent danger of this Kingdom, &amp; finding that while&s;t they were active here to &s;ubdue the Rebels of <HI>Ireland,</HI> there were Papi&s;ts, Traitors and Delinquents more active in the North to conquer and de&s;troy the Parliament and good people of <HI>England,</HI> thought it nece&s;&s;ary to provide for the &s;afety of both by prepa|ring a competent Army for the defence of King and Kingdom, &amp; although multitudes of wel affected per|&s;ons had cheerfully brought in great &s;tore of plate for that purpo&s;e, yet in regard the plate could not be coy|ned with &s;uch expedition, as the importance of the &s;ervice did require, and well knowing that one hun|dred
<PB N="11" REF="8">thou&s;and pounds might for a &s;hort time be bor|rowed out of the Adventurers money for <HI>Ireland,</HI> without any prejudice to the Affairs of that Kingdom (who&s;e &s;ub&s;i&s;tence depends upon the welfare of this) and re&s;olving to make a reall, and &s;peedy repayment of what money &s;hould be &s;o borrowed did make this Order which that it may appeare to all the World to be neither mi&s;chievous, illegall, nor unju&s;t (as his Ma|je&s;ty, by the in&s;tigation of tho&s;e malignant VVhi&s;pe|rers is plea&s;ed to terme it) the hou&s;e of Commons thought fit to recite it in <HI>haec verba,</HI> and in&s;tead of re|tracting the Order to repay the money with all po&s;&s;i|ble &s;peed.</P>
<P>The thirtieth day of <HI>July,</HI> one thou&s;and &s;ix hundred forty two; It is this day ordered by the Commons Hou&s;e of Parliament, that the Trea&s;urers appointed to receive the Moneys come in upon the Sub&s;cripti|ons for <HI>Ireland,</HI> doe forthwith furni&s;h by way of loan, unto the Committee of the Lords and Commons, for the defence of the Kingdome, the &s;umme of one hundred thou&s;and pounds for the &s;upply of the pub|lick nece&s;sity for the defence of the King, Parliament, and Kingdom upon the publick faith to be repaid du|ly and carefully within &s;o &s;hort a time, that it &s;hall not be diverted from the purpo&s;e, for which it was inten|ded, or any way fru&s;trate the Acts already made in the behalf of that Adventure. By which order, and that which hath been here truly &s;et down, it will ea&s;ily ap|pear to all the indifferent people of his Maje&s;ties three
<PB N="12" REF="9">Kingdoms, VVhether the King and his Cavaliers, or the King and his Parliament do mo&s;t affect and en|deavour the &s;etling of true Religion, and a firme and con&s;tant peace within that bleeding and di&s;tracted Kingdome.</P>
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