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<DIV1 TYPE="title page">
<PB REF="1" MS="y">
<P>The Humble
DESIRES
AND
PROPOSITIONS
OF THE
Lords and Commons
A&s;&s;embled in Parliament,
Pre&s;ented to the KINGS mo&s;t Ex|cellent
Maje&s;ty at his Court at <HI>Oxford,</HI>
February 3. 1642.</P>
<P>With His
MAIESTIES ANSWER
thereunto, and &s;ix Propo&s;itions propounded
by him to both Hou&s;es, to be debated upon
with the re&s;t.</P>
<P><HI>Die Lunae.</HI> Feb. 6. 1642.</P>
<P>Ordered by the Lords and Commons A&s;&s;embled in Parliament
that the&s;e Propo&s;itions with his Maje&s;ties An&s;wer thereunto
&s;hall be forthwith printed and publi&s;hed.</P>
<P>Io. Browne Cler. Parliamentorum.</P>
<P>Feb. 7. Printed for <HI>Iohn Wright</HI> in the Old Bailey. 1642.</P>
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<DIV1 TYPE="petition">
<PB N="3" REF="2">
<HEAD>The Humble Petition of the Lords
and Commons to the King.</HEAD>
<P>_WE your <HI>MAJESTIES</HI> mo&s;t humble and
faithfull Subjects, The Lords and Com|mons
in Parliament A&s;&s;embled, having in
our thoughts the glory of God, your Ma|je&s;ties
honour, and the pro&s;perity of your
people, and being mo&s;t grievou&s;ly afflicted
with the pre&s;&s;ing mi&s;eries, and calamites, which have over|whelmed
your two Kingdoms of <HI>England</HI> &amp; <HI>Ireland,</HI> &s;ince your
Maje&s;ty hath by the per&s;wa&s;ion of evil Councellors, withrawn
your &s;elf fro~ the Parliament, rai&s;ed an army again&s;t it, And by
force therof protected delinquents, from the Ju&s;tice of it, con|&s;trayning
us to take Armes for the defence of our Religion,
Lawes, Liberties, Priviledges of Parliament, and for the fit|ting
of the Parliament in &s;afety; which feares and dangers are
continued and increa&s;ed by the rai&s;ing, drawing together and
arming of great numbers of Papi&s;ts under the command of
the Earle of <HI>New-Ca&s;tle,</HI> likewi&s;e by making the Lord <HI>Herbert</HI>
of <HI>Ragland</HI> and other knowne Papi&s;ts Commanders of great
Forces, whereby many grievous Oppre&s;&s;ions, Rapines, and
cruelties have been and are dayly exerci&s;ed upon the per&s;ons
and &s;tates of your people, much innocent bloud hath beene
&s;pilt &amp; the Papi&s;ts have obtained meanes of attempting with
hopes of affecting their mi&s;chievous de&s;ignes of rooting out
the reformed Religion, and de&s;troying the profe&s;&s;ors there|of,
in tender &s;ence and compa&s;&s;ion of the&s;e evills under which
your People and Kingdome lie, (according to the duty which
<PB N="4" REF="3">
we owe to God your Maje&s;ty and the Kingdome for which
we are tru&s;ted) doe mo&s;t earne&s;tly de&s;ire that an end may be
put to the&s;e great di&s;tempers and di&s;tractions, for the pre|vention
of that de&s;olation which doth threaten all your Ma|je&s;ties
Dominions, and as wee have rendred, and &s;till are
ready to render to your Maje&s;ty that &s;ubjection, obedience
and &s;ervice which we owe unto you, &s;o wee mo&s;t humbly
be&s;eech your Maje&s;ty to remove the cau&s;es of this War, and
to vouch&s;afe us that peace and protection which we and our
Ance&s;tors have formerly injoyed, under your Maje&s;ty and
royall Predece&s;&s;ors, and graciou&s;ly to accept and grant tho&s;e
our mo&s;t humble de&s;ires and propo&s;itions: 1. that your Maje|&s;ty
will be plea&s;ed to disband your Armies as wee likewi&s;e
&s;hall be ready to disband all tho&s;e Forces which we have rai|&s;ed,
and th<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">t you will be plea&s;ed to returne to your Parlia|ment.</P>
<P>2. That you will leave Delinquents to a legall tryall and
judgement of Parliament.</P>
<P>3. That the Papi&s;ts may not only be disbanded but disarm|ed,
according to the Law.</P>
<P>4 That your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed to give your royall a&s;|&s;ent
unto the Bill for taking away &s;uper&s;titious innovations;
To the Bill for the utter aboli&s;hing and taking away of all
Arch-bi&s;hops, Bi&s;hops, their Chancellors, and Commi&s;&s;aries,
Deanes, Sub-deanes, Deanes and Chapters, Arch-deacons
Canons, and Prebendaries and all Chantors, Chancellors,
Trea&s;urers, Sub-trea&s;urers, Succentors and Sacri&s;ts, and all
Vicars Chorall, and Chori&s;ters, old Vicars, and new Vicars,
of any Cathedrall or Collegiate Church and all other their
under Officers out of the Church of England, to the Bill a|gain&s;t
&s;candalous Mini&s;ters; To the Bill again&s;t Pluralities. And
to the Bill for Con&s;ultation to be had with godly, Religious
and learned Divines, that your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed to
promi&s;e to pa&s;&s;e &s;uch other good Bills, for &s;etling of Church-government
<PB N="5" REF="3">
as upon con&s;ultation with the A&s;&s;embly of the
&s;aid Divines, &s;hall be re&s;olved on by both Hou&s;es of Parlia|ment;
and by them be pre&s;ented to your Maje&s;ty.</P>
<P>5. That your Maje&s;ty having expre&s;t in your An&s;wer, to
the ninteene propo&s;itions of both Hou&s;es of Parliament, an
hearty affection and intention for the rooting out of popery
out of this Kingdome. And that if both the Hou&s;es of Parlia|ment
can yet finde a more effectuall cour&s;e to di&s;able <HI>Ie&s;uits,
Prie&s;ts</HI> and Popi&s;h <HI>Recu&s;ants</HI> from di&s;turbing the &s;tate, or De|luding
the Lawes, that you would willingly give your con|&s;ent
unto it.</P>
<P>That you would be graciou&s;ly plea&s;ed for the better di&s;|covery,
&amp; &s;peedier conviction of Recu&s;ants, that an Oath may
be e&s;tabli&s;hed by Act of Parliament, To be admini&s;tred in
&s;uch manner as by both Hou&s;es &s;hall be agreed on, where in
they &s;hal abjure and renounce the <HI>Popes</HI> &s;upremacy, the doctrin
of Tran&s;&s;ub&s;tantiation, Purgatory, wor&s;hiping of the con&s;e|crated
Ho&s;ts, Crucifixes and Images and the refu&s;ing of the
&s;aid Oath being tendered in &s;uch manner as &s;hall be appoint|ed
by Act of Parliament, &s;hal be a &s;ufficient conviction in Law
of Recu&s;ancy.</P>
<P>And that your Maje&s;ty will be graciou&s;ly plea&s;ed to give
your Royall a&s;&s;ent unto a Bill, for the education of the chil|dren
of Papi&s;ts by Prote&s;tants, in the Prote&s;tant Religion.</P>
<P>That for the more effectuall execution of the Lawes a|gain&s;t
Popi&s;h Recu&s;ants, your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed to con|&s;ent
to a Bill for the true levying of the penalties again&s;t
them, and that the &s;ame penalties may be levyed, and di&s;po|&s;ed
of in &s;uch manner as both Hou&s;es of Parliament &s;hall a|gree
on, &s;o as your Maje&s;ty be at no lo&s;&s;e; And likewi&s;e to
a Bill whereby the practi&s;e of Papi&s;ts again&s;t the &s;tate may be
prevented, and the Lawes again&s;t them duely executed.</P>
<P>6. That the Earle of <HI>Bri&s;toll</HI> may be removed from your
Maje&s;ties Councells, and that both he, and the Lord <HI>Herbert,</HI>
<PB N="6" REF="4">
elde&s;t &s;on to the Earle of <HI>Worce&s;ter,</HI> may likewi&s;e be re&s;trained
from comming within the verge of the Court, and that they
may not beare any Office or have any imployment concer|ning
the &s;tate or Common-wealth.</P>
<P>7. That your Maje&s;ty will be graciou&s;ly plea&s;ed by Act of
Parliament, to &s;ettle the <HI>Militia</HI> both by Sea and Land, and
for the Forts and ports of the Kingdome in &s;uch a manner, as
&s;hall be agreed on by both Hou&s;es.</P>
<P>8. That your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed, by your Letters pa|tents
to make Sir <HI>Iohn Bram&s;ton,</HI> chiefe Ju&s;tice of your Court
of <HI>Kings-Bench, William Lenthall</HI> E&s;quire the now &s;peaker of
the Commons Hou&s;e, Mr. of the <HI>Rolles,</HI> and to continue
the Lord chiefe Ju&s;tice <HI>Bankes,</HI> chiefe Ju&s;tice of the
Court of <HI>Common-Pleas;</HI> And likewi&s;e to make Mr. <HI>Sergeant
Wyld</HI> chiefe Baron of your Court of the <HI>Exchequer,</HI> And that
Mr. Ju&s;tice <HI>Bacon</HI> may be continued, and Mr. Sergeant <HI>Roles,</HI>
and Mr. Sergeant <HI>Atkins</HI> made Ju&s;tices of the Kings <HI>Bench.</HI>
That Mr. Ju&s;tice <HI>Reenes,</HI> and Mr. Ju&s;tice <HI>Fo&s;ter</HI> may be con|tinued,
and <HI>Mr.</HI> Sergeant <HI>Phe&s;ant</HI> made one of the Ju&s;tices of
your Court of <HI>Common-Pleas.</HI> That <HI>Mr.</HI> Sergeant <HI>Cre&s;well, Mr.
Samuel Browne,</HI> and <HI>Mr. Iohn Pule&s;ton</HI> may be Barons of the
<HI>Exchequer</HI> and that all the&s;e, and all the Judges of the &s;ame
Courts for the time to come, may hold their places by Let|ters
patents under the great Seale, <HI>Quam diu &s;e bene ge&s;&s;erint.</HI>
And that the &s;everall per&s;ons not before named that doe hold
any of the&s;e places before mentioned may be removed.</P>
<P>9. That all &s;uch per&s;ons as have bin put out of the Com|mi&s;&s;ions
of peace or of <HI>Oyer,</HI> and <HI>Terminer</HI> or from being <HI>Cu&s;|todes
Rotulorum</HI> &s;ince the fir&s;t day of <HI>April.</HI> 1642. (Others
then &s;uch as were put out by the de&s;ire of both or either of
the Hou&s;es of Parliament may againe be put into tho&s;e Com|mi&s;&s;ions
and Offices; And that &s;uch per&s;ons may be put out
of tho&s;e Commi&s;&s;ions and Offices as &s;hall be excepted again&s;t
by both Hou&s;es of Parliament.</P>
<P><PB N="7" REF="4">
10. That your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed to pa&s;&s;e the Bill now
pre&s;ented to your Maje&s;ty, to vindicate and &s;ecure the pri|viledges
of Parliament from the ill con&s;equence of the late
pre&s;ident in the charge and proceedings again&s;t the Lord
<HI>Kimbolton</HI> now Earle of <HI>Manche&s;ter,</HI> and the five members of
the Hou&s;e of Commons.</P>
<P>11. That your Maje&s;ties Royall A&s;&s;ent may be given unto
&s;uch Acts as &s;hall be advi&s;ed by both Hou&s;es of Parliament,
for the &s;atisfying and paying the debts and dammages, where|in
the two Hou&s;es of Parliament have engaged the publique
Faith of the Kingdom.</P>
<P>12. That your Maje&s;ty will be plea&s;ed according to a
gracious An&s;wer heretofore received from you, to enter in|to
a more &s;trict alliance with the &s;tates of the united Provin|ces,
and other Neighbour Princes, and &s;tates of the Prote|&s;tant
Religion for the defence and maintenance thereof, a|gain&s;t
all de&s;ignes, and attempts of the Popi&s;h and Je&s;uiticall
faction, to &s;ubvert and &s;uppre&s;&s;e it; whereby your &s;ubjects
may hope to be free from the mi&s;chiefes, which this King|dome
hath endured through the power which &s;ome of that
party have had in your Councell, and will be much encour|aged
in a Parliamentary way for your aide and a&s;&s;i&s;tance, in
re&s;toring your Royall Si&s;ter and the Prince Elector to tho&s;e
Dignities and Dominions which belong unto them, and the
relieving the other di&s;tre&s;&s;ed Prote&s;tant Princes, who have
&s;uffered in the &s;ame cau&s;e.</P>
<P>13. That in the Generall pardon that your Maje&s;ty hath
bin plea&s;ed to offer to your Subjects, all offences and mi&s;de|meanors
committed before the tenth of <HI>Ianuary,</HI> 1641. which
have bin or &s;hall be que&s;tioned or proceeded again&s;t in Par|liament
upon complaint in the Hou&s;e of Commons before
the tenth of <HI>Ianuary,</HI> 1643. &s;hall be excepted, which offences
and mi&s;demeanors &s;hall neverthele&s;&s;e be taken and adjudg|ed
to be fully di&s;charged again&s;t all other inferiours Courts,
<PB N="8" REF="5">
That likewi&s;e there &s;hall be an exception of all offences com|mitted
by any per&s;on or per&s;ons which hath or have had any
hand or practi&s;e in the rebellion of <HI>Ireland,</HI> which hath or
have given any Coun&s;ell, a&s;&s;i&s;tance or incouragement to the
Rebells there, for the maintenance of that rebellion, as like|wi&s;e
an exception of <HI>William</HI> Earle of <HI>New Ca&s;tle,</HI> and <HI>George</HI>
Lord <HI>Digby.</HI></P>
<P>14. That your Maje&s;tie will be plea&s;ed to re&s;tore &s;uch
Members of either Hou&s;e of Parliament to their &s;everall
place of &s;ervice and imployment out of which they have bin
put, &s;ince the beginning of this Parliament, that they may
receive &s;atisfaction and reparation for tho&s;e places and for
the profits which they haue lo&s;t by &s;uch removall&punc; upon the
Petition of both hou&s;es of Parliament, and that all others
may be re&s;tored to their offices and imployments who have
bin put out of the &s;ame upon any di&s;plea&s;ure conceived a|gain&s;t
them for any a&s;&s;i&s;tance given to both Hou&s;es of Parlia|ment,
or obeying their Commands, or forbearing to leave
their attendance upon the Parliament without licence; Or
for any other occa&s;ion ari&s;ing from the&s;e unhappy differen|ces
betwixt your Maje&s;ty and both Hou&s;es of Parliament up|on
the like Petition of both Hou&s;es.</P>
<P>The&s;e things being granted and performed, as it hath all|waies
bin our hearty prayers, &s;o &s;hall wee be inabled to
make it our hopefull endeavour, that your Maje&s;ty and your
people may injoy the ble&s;&s;ings of Peace, Truth, and Iu&s;tice;
The Royalty, and greatne&s;&s;e of your Throne may be &s;up|ported
by the Loyall and bountifull affections of your people,
their Liberties and Priviledges maintained by your Maje&s;ties
prot<GAP DESC="illegible" RESP="OXF" EXTENT="1 letter">ction and Iu&s;tice, and this publique Honour and Hap|pine&s;&s;e
of your Maje&s;ty and all your Dominions, commu|nicated
to other Churches and States of your Alliance, and
derived to your Royall po&s;terity, and the future Generations
in this Kingdome for ever.</P>
</DIV1>
<DIV1 TYPE="answer">
<PB N="9" REF="5">
<HEAD>HIS
MAIESTIES
An&s;wer and Propo&s;itions
to the Lords and Commons in
PARLIAMENT.</HEAD>
<P>_IF His Maie&s;ty had not given up all the faculties
of His &s;oule to an earne&s;t endeavour of a peace,
and reconciliation with His people; Or if He
would &s;uffer him&s;elfe by any provocation to be
drawne to a &s;harpne&s;&s;e of language at a time
when there &s;&eacute;emes &s;omewhat like an overture
of Accomodation; He could not but re&s;ent the heavy charges
upon Him in the preamble of the&s;e Propo&s;itions; And would
not &s;uffer him&s;elfe to be reproached with protecting of Delin|quents
by force from Iu&s;tice (His Maie&s;ties de&s;ire having al|waies
b&eacute;en, that all men &s;hould be tryed by the knowne Laws,
and having b&eacute;en refu&s;ed it) with rai&s;ing an Army again&s;t His
Parliament; And to be told that Armes have b&eacute;en taken up
again&s;t Him for defence of Religion, Laws, Liberties, Privi|ledges
<PB N="10" REF="6">
of Parliament, &amp; for &s;itting of the Parliament in &s;afety,
with many other particulars in that preamble, &s;o often and &s;o
fully an&s;wered by His Maie&s;ty, without remembring the
World of the time and circum&s;tances of rai&s;ing the&s;e Armes a|gain&s;t
him, when His Maie&s;ty was &s;o farre from being in a
condition to invade other mens Rights, that He was not able
to maintaine and defend His owne from violence; And with|out
telling His good Subiects, that their Religion (the true
Prote&s;tant Religion, in which His Maie&s;ty was borne, hath
faithfully lived, and to which He will die a willing &s;acrifice)
Their Lawes, Liberties, Priviledges, and &s;afety of Parlia|ment,
were &s;o amply &s;etled, and e&s;tabli&s;hed, or offered to be &s;o by
His Maie&s;ty, before any Army was rai&s;ed again&s;t him,
and long before any rai&s;ed by him for his defence; That if
nothing had b&eacute;en de&s;ired, but that peace and protection which
His Subiects and their Ance&s;tors had in the be&s;t times enioy|ed
under His Maie&s;ty, or His Royall Predece&s;&s;ors, this mi&s;|under&s;tanding,
and di&s;tance betw&eacute;ene His Maie&s;ty and His
People, and this generall mi&s;ery and di&s;traction upon the
face of the whole Kingdome had not now b&eacute;ene the di&s;cour&s;e
of Chri&s;tendome. But His Maie&s;ty will forbeare any expre&s;|&s;ions
of bitterne&s;&s;e, or of a &s;ence of His owne &s;ufferings, that
if it be po&s;&s;ible the memory thereof may be lo&s;t to the World;
And therefore, though many of the Propo&s;itions pre&s;ented to
His Maie&s;ty by both Hou&s;es appeare to Him very derogatory
from and de&s;tructive to His Iu&s;t Power and Prerogative,
and no way beneficiall to His Subiects, few of them being al|ready
due to them by the Laws e&s;tabli&s;hed (and how un-Par|liamentary
it is by Armes to require new Laws, all the world
may Iudge) yet becau&s;e the&s;e may be waved or mollified, and
many that are now darke or doubtfull in them cleared and
explained upon debate) his Maie&s;ty is plea&s;ed (&s;uch is his &s;ence
of the mi&s;eries this Kingdom &s;uffers by this unnaturall War,
<PB N="11" REF="6">
and His earne&s;t de&s;ire to remove them by a happy peace) that
a &s;peedy Time and Place be agr&eacute;ed upon for the m&eacute;eting of
&s;uch per&s;ons as His Maie&s;ty, and both Hou&s;es &s;hall appoint to
di&s;cu&s;&s;e the&s;e Propo&s;itions, and &s;uch others here following as
His Maie&s;ty doth propo&s;e to them.</P>
<P>1. That His Maie&s;ties owne Revenue, Magazines,
Townes, Forts, and Ships, which have b&eacute;ene taken or kept
from Him by force, be forthwith re&s;tored unto Him.</P>
<P>2. That what&s;oever hath b&eacute;en done or publi&s;hed, contrary
to the knowne Lawes of the Land, and derogatory to His
Maie&s;ties legall and knowne Power and Rights, be renoun|ced
and recalled, that no &s;&eacute;ed may remaine for the like to &s;pring
out of for the future.</P>
<P>3. That what&s;oever illegall power hath beene claimed,
and exerci&s;ed by or over his Subiects, as impri&s;oning their
per&s;ons without Law, &s;topping their <HI>Habeas Corpu&s;&s;es;</HI> And
impo&s;ing upon their E&s;tates, without Act of Parliament, &amp;c.
either by both or either Hou&s;e, or any Committ&eacute;e by both or
either, or by any per&s;ons appointed by any of them be di&s;clai|med,
and all &s;uch per&s;ons &s;o committed, forthwith di&s;charged.</P>
<P>4. That as His Maie&s;ty will readily con&s;ent (having done
&s;o heretofore) to the execution of all Lawes already made,
and to any good Acts to be made for the &s;uppre&s;&s;ing of Popery,
and for the firme &s;etling of the Prote&s;tant Religion now e&s;ta|bli&s;hed
by Law; So he de&s;ires that a good Bill may be fra|med
for the better pre&s;erving of the Book of Common-Prayer
from the &s;corne and violence of Browni&s;ts, Anabapti&s;ts, and
other Sectaries, with &s;uch clau&s;es for the ea&s;e of tender con|&s;ciences,
as his Maie&s;ty hath formerly offered:</P>
<P>5. That all &s;uch per&s;ons as upon the Treaty &s;hall be ex|cepted
out of the generall pardon, &s;hall be tryed <HI>per Pares</HI>
according to the u&s;uall cour&s;e and knowne Law of the Land,
<PB N="12" REF="7">
and that it be left to that either to acquit or condemne them.</P>
<P>6. And to the intent this Treaty may not &s;uffer interrupti|on
by any intervening Accidents, That a ce&s;&s;ation of Armes,
and fr&eacute;e Trade for all his Maie&s;ties Subiects may be fir&s;t a|gr&eacute;ed
upon.</P>
<P>This offer and de&s;ire of his Maie&s;ty he hopes will be &s;o
ch&eacute;erefully entertained, That a &s;p&eacute;edy and ble&s;&s;ed peace may
be accompli&s;hed: if it &s;hall be reiected, or by in&s;i&s;ting upon im|rea&s;onable
circum&s;tances, be made impo&s;&s;ible, which he hopes
(God in his mercy to this Nation will not &s;uffer) The guilt
of the blood which will be &s;hed and the de&s;olation, which mu&s;t
follow will lie upon the heads of the refu&s;ers; however, his
Maie&s;tie is re&s;olved through what accidents &s;oever he &s;hall
be compelled to recover his rights, and with what pro&s;perous
&s;ucce&s;&s;es &s;oever it &s;hall plea&s;e God to ble&s;&s;e him, That by his
earne&s;t con&s;tant endeavours to Propagate and promote the
true prote&s;tant Religion, And by his governing according to
the known Lawes of the Land, and upholding the Iu&s;t Pri|viledges
of Parliament, according to his frequent Prote&s;ta|tions
made before Almighty God, which be will alwaies in|violably
ob&s;erve, The World &s;hall &s;&eacute;e that he hath undergone
all the&s;e difficulties and hazzards for the defence and mainte|nance
of the&s;e, The zealous pre&s;ervation of which his Maie&s;ty
well knowes is the onely foundation and meanes for the true
happine&s;&s;e of him and his People.</P>
<TRAILER>FINIS.</TRAILER>
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